error with gems

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On 18 Apr 2004 13:28:22 -0700, Deadbugs@softhome.net (Andre) wrote:

>In Conquests (the rise of Roman Empire) there seems to be an error. I
>built a city with gems on its radius yet gems never comes up as a
>luxury item. I have ivory, wines, incense, dyes etc. But no gems. All
>cities are connected by harbours and all roads are connected to the
>city in question...yet no gems appear.
>
> Has anyone else come across this?:

Stupid question, but you have a road connecting the gems to a city,
right?

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Rob Maxwell wrote:
> "Dark Tyger" <darktiger@somewhere.net> wrote in message
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>> On 18 Apr 2004 13:28:22 -0700, Deadbugs@softhome.net (Andre) wrote:
>>
>>> In Conquests (the rise of Roman Empire) there seems to be an error.
>>> I built a city with gems on its radius yet gems never comes up as a
>>> luxury item. I have ivory, wines, incense, dyes etc. But no gems.
>>> All cities are connected by harbours and all roads are connected to
>>> the city in question...yet no gems appear.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else come across this?:
>>
>> Stupid question, but you have a road connecting the gems to a city,
>> right?
>
> "In the city radius" only matters with iron and coal, which are both
> required to get the Iron Works Wonder.

Iron works wonder?! I've not heard of that one before! I've had Iron and
Coal many times, but haven't seen that....I'll have a look in the wonder
listing civipedia bit next time I'm on.

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The Stare wrote:
> "Contro"
> <moridin@contro.freeserve.co.remove.then.add.initials.of.united.kingdom>
> wrote in message news:c609cv$8i7$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>
>> Iron works wonder?! I've not heard of that one before! I've had
>> Iron and Coal many times, but haven't seen that....I'll have a look
>> in the wonder listing civipedia bit next time I'm on.
>
> Iron works is a small wonder that requires coal and iron both to be
> within the city radius. It is fairly rare that one gets to build it
> and even rarer that it can be built in a low corruption city. It has
> the same effects as a factory + coal plant including the pollution
> for 200 or 300 shields... i forget.

ahh, I see what you mean ...needing coal and iron in the city radius would
explain why I've not seen it. Still, something to look out for! are there
any other similar wonders that are hard to get, because they require rare
occurances such as this?

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The Stare wrote:
> "Contro"
> <moridin@contro.freeserve.co.remove.then.add.initials.of.united.kingdom>
> wrote in message news:c60cei$nk1$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> The Stare wrote:
>>> "Contro"
>>> <moridin@contro.freeserve.co.remove.then.add.initials.of.united.kingdom>
>>> wrote in message news:c609cv$8i7$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>> Iron works wonder?! I've not heard of that one before! I've had
>>>> Iron and Coal many times, but haven't seen that....I'll have a look
>>>> in the wonder listing civipedia bit next time I'm on.
>>>
>>> Iron works is a small wonder that requires coal and iron both to be
>>> within the city radius. It is fairly rare that one gets to build it
>>> and even rarer that it can be built in a low corruption city. It has
>>> the same effects as a factory + coal plant including the pollution
>>> for 200 or 300 shields... i forget.
>>
>> ahh, I see what you mean ...needing coal and iron in the city radius
>> would explain why I've not seen it. Still, something to look out
>> for! are there any other similar wonders that are hard to get,
>> because they require rare occurances such as this?
>
> That's the only one. It's really neat when you do get to build it.
> When you discover steampower, the advisor pops up saying our ppl want
> the iron works, maybe we should. Then you have to figure out which
> city it is.

Well here's hoping I fluke it! It will be quite hard to get it on purpose,
since you don't see coal until most cities are established, but you can
always strike it lucky!

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Yes the roads are connected.


Dark Tyger <darktiger@somewhere.net> wrote in message news:<n4q58011vmkfe52evv04ljeu1lkjq88g2s@4ax.com>...
> On 18 Apr 2004 13:28:22 -0700, Deadbugs@softhome.net (Andre) wrote:
>
> >In Conquests (the rise of Roman Empire) there seems to be an error. I
> >built a city with gems on its radius yet gems never comes up as a
> >luxury item. I have ivory, wines, incense, dyes etc. But no gems. All
> >cities are connected by harbours and all roads are connected to the
> >city in question...yet no gems appear.
> >
> > Has anyone else come across this?:
>
> Stupid question, but you have a road connecting the gems to a city,
> right?
>
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>
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Deadbugs@softhome.net (Andre) wrote in
news:1492a855.0404181228.d20eb8e@posting.google.com:

> In Conquests (the rise of Roman Empire) there seems to be an error. I
> built a city with gems on its radius yet gems never comes up as a
> luxury item. I have ivory, wines, incense, dyes etc. But no gems. All
> cities are connected by harbours and all roads are connected to the
> city in question...yet no gems appear.
>
> Has anyone else come across this?:

Yes. The gems in the mountain on the eastern edge of Egypt. I
think it's a problem specific to the scenario.

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On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 11:27:28 +0100, "Contro"
<moridin@contro.freeserve.co.remove.then.add.initials.of.united.kingdom>
wrote:

>I might have to have a go one day on the "real" map of the world. I was
>always a bit worried about this, or custom maps, after playing Civ 1 with
>the "real" map. When I was England, the land for the country was only big
>enough for about 2 cities! I have a feeling that things will be a bit
>better now though
>

In the huge DYP map the UK can carry four cities comfortably in late
game culture-expansion, and maybe six if you don't care too much about
overlap. One in Ireland, London, one in Wales, and one in the
Highlands. There's a fur resource on the east coast of southern
Scotland that's worth getting early, but it causes overlap with London
later on. You can also profitably use the two islands to the north if
you can beat the Vikings/Germans to them.

I can't remember the last time I played Civ3 on other than an Earth
map. I wish Firaxis would pay more attention to doing great ones. The
fan ones are fine, but I'd like the option of picking one from the
main set-up screen.

Steve
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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 11:45:13 +0100, "Contro"
<moridin@contro.freeserve.co.remove.then.add.initials.of.united.kingdom>
wrote:

>yes, they should do. I've not played on any world map made by any fans yet,
>but you'd think it would be one of the first extras that the developer would
>add to the game!

Marla's Map was one of the first and still one of the best. Also one
by someone named Kitten of Chaos, slightly different emphasis than
Marla's. And the Earth in the Teturkhan scenarios is excellent as
well. I've already mentioned the DYP huge version.

Steve

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i think there was a error in conquests for this.. im sure 1.20 patch (or
1.15beta) fixes this

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"Andre" <Deadbugs@softhome.net> wrote in message
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> In Conquests (the rise of Roman Empire) there seems to be an error. I
> built a city with gems on its radius yet gems never comes up as a
> luxury item. I have ivory, wines, incense, dyes etc. But no gems. All
> cities are connected by harbours and all roads are connected to the
> city in question...yet no gems appear.
>
> Has anyone else come across this?:
>
>
> Andre


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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:31:17 +0100, "Contro"
<moridin@contro.freeserve.co.remove.then.add.initials.of.united.kingdom>
wrote:

>I'm going to have a look for such maps I think! Thanks! They would be fun.
>Only problem is that you would know the shape of the world, but well, that
>isn't really a big problem at all compared to the fun it would be.
>

I think that's the advantage of the Earth maps. So much of Earth
history was driven by geography--rivers, choke points, impassable
mountains, etc.--that it's fun to go into the editor and tweak unit
capabilities to play "what if?". What if galleys could cross seas and
the New World had no indigenous people? What if no unit of any kind
could cross mountains? What if grasslands gave 5x the food of any
other terrain type? What if there were Indians in the Americas, but no
horses (historically correct until the Spanish)? What if Europe had no
iron? What would the Mongols have been able to do if China and Korea
didn't exist? What different strategies would result if raging
barbarians also had access to privateers instead of galleys?

The possibilities are endless.

Steve
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Steve Bartman wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:31:17 +0100, "Contro"
> <moridin@contro.freeserve.co.remove.then.add.initials.of.united.kingdom>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm going to have a look for such maps I think! Thanks! They would
>> be fun. Only problem is that you would know the shape of the world,
>> but well, that isn't really a big problem at all compared to the fun
>> it would be.
>>
>
> I think that's the advantage of the Earth maps. So much of Earth
> history was driven by geography--rivers, choke points, impassable
> mountains, etc.--that it's fun to go into the editor and tweak unit
> capabilities to play "what if?". What if galleys could cross seas and
> the New World had no indigenous people? What if no unit of any kind
> could cross mountains? What if grasslands gave 5x the food of any
> other terrain type? What if there were Indians in the Americas, but no
> horses (historically correct until the Spanish)? What if Europe had no
> iron? What would the Mongols have been able to do if China and Korea
> didn't exist? What different strategies would result if raging
> barbarians also had access to privateers instead of galleys?
>
> The possibilities are endless.

I've not even begun to look at the editor yet! I was always a bit reluctant
to change any of the default settings, but I can see how it could be a lot
of fun and add to the game if you wanted to try things out, like you say!

Just to much to the game, there really is!