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Anonymous
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June 28, 2004 3:52:03 PM

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I would like to buy a Wireless ADSL Router with 4-port switch.

Is this possible to disable the wireless radio broadcasting when no
wireless connection is required?

I do not need permanetly the signal broadcasting, but only when I use
my notebook in other rooms. But the router should continue to work for
all other wired PCs in my wired LAN.
Is this possible?

In short: can I have wired connection enabled and wireless connection
disabled at the same time?

Is there any model that allows that?

Thank you very much for replying.
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
June 28, 2004 3:52:04 PM

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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:52:03 +0200, Giobibo <giobibo@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I would like to buy a Wireless ADSL Router with 4-port switch.
>
>Is this possible to disable the wireless radio broadcasting when no
>wireless connection is required?
>
>I do not need permanetly the signal broadcasting, but only when I use
>my notebook in other rooms. But the router should continue to work for
>all other wired PCs in my wired LAN.
>Is this possible?
>
>In short: can I have wired connection enabled and wireless connection
>disabled at the same time?
>
>Is there any model that allows that?
>
>Thank you very much for replying.

If I take the effort to log into the http-based control for my D-Link
624 and click the wireless button, there is a selection for Wireless
On/Off. I assume most wireless routers have the same thing. Obviously
you can only get there from a wired PC to turn it back on.

Hmm. I just had a thought. One day I'll have to see what happens if I
turn off wireless on the router and then power cycle it.

On PCs with wireless cards, you can disable wireless either from the
card's control software or the Windows Network Setup for wireless. Don't
know about the other OSs, but you didn't ask about this end anyway.
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
June 28, 2004 3:52:04 PM

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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:52:03 +0200, Giobibo <giobibo@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I would like to buy a Wireless ADSL Router with 4-port switch.
>
>Is this possible to disable the wireless radio broadcasting when no
>wireless connection is required?
>
>I do not need permanetly the signal broadcasting, but only when I use
>my notebook in other rooms. But the router should continue to work for
>all other wired PCs in my wired LAN.
>Is this possible?
>
>In short: can I have wired connection enabled and wireless connection
>disabled at the same time?
>
>Is there any model that allows that?
>
>Thank you very much for replying.

I assume by "broadcast" you mean disabling the wireless portion and
not mean anything in reference to disabling SSID broadcasting.

The easy solution is to simply remove the antenna(s) from your
wireless router when not in use. Look for a router with R-TNC
(Linksys) or R-SMA (D-Link) connectors. This gets old very quickly.

Another kludge is to write a keyboard macro or script that simulates
diving into the routers HTML web page for turning on and off the
wireless enable/disable check box. This is not as difficult as it
seems and can be done with any macro recorder or HTML automation
software.

What you're asking is a common problem at internet cafe's and
restaurants. They want to turn off the wireless after approximately
6PM so that the geeks don't monopolize the tables during prime time.
However, they want the back office computah to continue normal
operation.

I go for the divide and conquer solution. Don't buy an all in one
box. Buy three separate boxes. Box one is an ADSL to ethernet
modem/bridge. It's always on. Box two is an ethernet router. It's
also always on allowing the local wired PC's to operate. Box three is
a wireless bridge also known as an "access point". This is on only
when needed. This arrangement also has the advantage of locating the
router/switch in the back office where one can make a mess with CAT5
wires going everywhere, while the wireless bridge can sit high up in
the public area for better coverage. Turning off the power to the
wireless bridge does not affect anything in the ethernet router.

Incidentally, a wireless router can often be used as a wireless bridge
by ignoring the WAN port. You may wanna buy a wireless router instead
of a wireless bridge (access point) because they're often cheaper and
offer the versatility of being used as either a router or bridge
depending on wiring and configuration.


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Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
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Anonymous
a b F Wireless
June 28, 2004 6:09:02 PM

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Giobibo <giobibo@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I would like to buy a Wireless ADSL Router with 4-port switch.
>
> Is this possible to disable the wireless radio broadcasting when no
> wireless connection is required?
>
> I do not need permanetly the signal broadcasting, but only when I use
> my notebook in other rooms. But the router should continue to work for
> all other wired PCs in my wired LAN.
> Is this possible?
>
> In short: can I have wired connection enabled and wireless connection
> disabled at the same time?
>
> Is there any model that allows that?

Yes, several models can do this; but it's not as simple as flipping a
switch on the unit. You have to reconfigure and (usually) reboot the
router every time you switch the wireless function on or off. It would
be easier, though more expensive, to use a separate wireless access
point connected to an always-on wired router. Whichever method you
choose, you should configure the wireless device for automatic channel
selection in order to avoid intermittent interference with other
wireless networks in your vicinity.
June 28, 2004 6:09:03 PM

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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 14:09:02 GMT, neillmassello@earthlink.net (Neill
Massello) wrote:

>Giobibo <giobibo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I would like to buy a Wireless ADSL Router with 4-port switch.
>>
>> Is this possible to disable the wireless radio broadcasting when no
>> wireless connection is required?
>>
>> I do not need permanetly the signal broadcasting, but only when I use
>> my notebook in other rooms. But the router should continue to work for
>> all other wired PCs in my wired LAN.
>> Is this possible?
>>
>> In short: can I have wired connection enabled and wireless connection
>> disabled at the same time?
>>
>> Is there any model that allows that?
>
>Yes, several models can do this; but it's not as simple as flipping a
>switch on the unit. You have to reconfigure and (usually) reboot the
>router every time you switch the wireless function on or off. It would
>be easier, though more expensive, to use a separate wireless access
>point connected to an always-on wired router. Whichever method you
>choose, you should configure the wireless device for automatic channel
>selection in order to avoid intermittent interference with other
>wireless networks in your vicinity.

On my Toshiba, it's not as simple as flipping a switch, but almost. I
have to log into the router, uncheck the wireless box, and log out
again. Only takes a few moments, and I don't do it often.

Dick
June 28, 2004 10:09:39 PM

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June 28, 2004 10:09:40 PM

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Walker wrote:

<top post corrected>

>> Is this possible to disable the wireless radio broadcasting when no
>> wireless connection is required?

>> In short: can I have wired connection enabled and wireless connection
>> disabled at the same time?

> Most wireless routers supports that function.
> "disable ssid broadcasting" or something to that effect.

Disabling broadcasting of the SSID does _not_ stop broadcasting.
The radio is stil active and still sending out the same amount of
beacon frames.
Only inside those beacon frames the SSID is now missing.

Sander
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
June 28, 2004 10:09:40 PM

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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:09:39 +0800, "Walker" <abc@xyz.com> wrote:

>Yes, sure.
>
>Most wireless routers supports that function.
>"disable ssid broadcasting" or something to that effect.

Thank you for your reply.

But "disable ssid broadcasting" will disable only the sending of some
information, but the router will still broadcast a radio signal.

I want to turn off the brodacasting completely
(ok, may be I coulkd remove the antenna :-), but is there any
"standard" way to do that?)
June 28, 2004 10:09:41 PM

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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 12:35:25 +0200, Giobibo <giobibo@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:09:39 +0800, "Walker" <abc@xyz.com> wrote:
>
>>Yes, sure.
>>
>>Most wireless routers supports that function.
>>"disable ssid broadcasting" or something to that effect.
>
>Thank you for your reply.
>
>But "disable ssid broadcasting" will disable only the sending of some
>information, but the router will still broadcast a radio signal.
>
>I want to turn off the brodacasting completely
>(ok, may be I coulkd remove the antenna :-), but is there any
>"standard" way to do that?)

My Toshiba router/cable modem has an option in the wireless setup
screen to turn wireless off. That is the default setting when the
router is reset. There is no question that it does turn it off.

I just read through the manual for the LinkSys WRT54g, a popular
router, and in the wireless screen there is an option to set wireless
Mode to Mixed, G-Only or Disabled. I would assume many routers have
this same capability.

Dick
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
June 28, 2004 10:42:07 PM

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> On my Toshiba, it's not as simple as flipping a switch, but almost. I
> have to log into the router, uncheck the wireless box, and log out
> again. Only takes a few moments, and I don't do it often.
>
> Dick

I guess this is your Toshiba notebook, must notebooks now have this options
because there are certain environments where people don't want the radio
signals as its a type of interference eg Hospitals, airplanes etc

regards

Andrew

http://www.securelymobile.co.uk/
Suppliers of Security, Wireless and Mobile Computer and Communication
Solutions.
June 28, 2004 10:42:08 PM

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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 18:42:07 +0100, "Andrew Crook"
<andrew@NOSPAM_andicrook.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>
>> On my Toshiba, it's not as simple as flipping a switch, but almost. I
>> have to log into the router, uncheck the wireless box, and log out
>> again. Only takes a few moments, and I don't do it often.
>>
>> Dick
>
>I guess this is your Toshiba notebook, must notebooks now have this options
>because there are certain environments where people don't want the radio
>signals as its a type of interference eg Hospitals, airplanes etc
>
>regards
>
>Andrew

No. This is a Toshiba PCX5000, which is a cable modem and wireless
router in the same box. It's true that I can turn off the internal
wireless in my HP laptop, but that doesn't stop the router from
transmitting.

Dick
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
June 28, 2004 11:08:43 PM

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I don't see my Dlink DI-524 having the wireless off button but I could
reduce the signal down to 10%. Personally I would just get a new router and
enable WPA & MAC filtering and not worry about it after that. Unless your
neighbor is a creative hacking genius he ain't getting in. Its my
understanding that there isn't a KNOWN way of sniffing in on a WPA signal.


"xray" <notreally@hotmail.invalid> wrote in message
news:v4svd017h5qiro84ooa0gea5oqumbnfsht@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 11:52:03 +0200, Giobibo <giobibo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >I would like to buy a Wireless ADSL Router with 4-port switch.
> >
> >Is this possible to disable the wireless radio broadcasting when no
> >wireless connection is required?
> >
> >I do not need permanetly the signal broadcasting, but only when I use
> >my notebook in other rooms. But the router should continue to work for
> >all other wired PCs in my wired LAN.
> >Is this possible?
> >
> >In short: can I have wired connection enabled and wireless connection
> >disabled at the same time?
> >
> >Is there any model that allows that?
> >
> >Thank you very much for replying.
>
> If I take the effort to log into the http-based control for my D-Link
> 624 and click the wireless button, there is a selection for Wireless
> On/Off. I assume most wireless routers have the same thing. Obviously
> you can only get there from a wired PC to turn it back on.
>
> Hmm. I just had a thought. One day I'll have to see what happens if I
> turn off wireless on the router and then power cycle it.
>
> On PCs with wireless cards, you can disable wireless either from the
> card's control software or the Windows Network Setup for wireless. Don't
> know about the other OSs, but you didn't ask about this end anyway.
>
>
July 3, 2004 2:17:17 PM

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Giobibo wrote:

> I would like to buy a Wireless ADSL Router with 4-port switch.
>
> Is this possible to disable the wireless radio broadcasting when no
> wireless connection is required?
>
> I do not need permanetly the signal broadcasting, but only when I use
> my notebook in other rooms. But the router should continue to work for
> all other wired PCs in my wired LAN.
> Is this possible?
>
> In short: can I have wired connection enabled and wireless connection
> disabled at the same time?
>
> Is there any model that allows that?
>
> Thank you very much for replying.

ZyXEL Zyair B-2000 v2 has this functionality. ($109 direct from mfg.)

Lac
Anonymous
a b F Wireless
July 3, 2004 5:44:31 PM

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the easiest way to do this is simply buy a standard wired only router and a
wireless access point (WAP) and connect the wap to one of the ports on the
switch. Then when you want to disconnect the wireless access, just unplug
the wap. HOWEVER, this is a lot of extra work, since with the proper
settings with either a WAP or wireless router, there is no real reason to
disable the wireless access when you are not using it.
"Giobibo" <giobibo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I would like to buy a Wireless ADSL Router with 4-port switch.
>
> Is this possible to disable the wireless radio broadcasting when no
> wireless connection is required?
>
> I do not need permanetly the signal broadcasting, but only when I use
> my notebook in other rooms. But the router should continue to work for
> all other wired PCs in my wired LAN.
> Is this possible?
>
> In short: can I have wired connection enabled and wireless connection
> disabled at the same time?
>
> Is there any model that allows that?
>
> Thank you very much for replying.
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