his point remains valid
and as for coming up with a reason for the descrepancy...i can't find one after looking at both test setups
the one done on dec 2 though was very sloppy (i created a thread about that when it came out) so i actually don't think i'd trust it =/
though <A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1746&p=14" target="_new">this</A> review was done with the 9700pro, it does show that the 3.06 and 2800+ are close in ut2k3 benchmarks. ignore the THG bench, a cpu won't make that kind of difference in performance. they may have done something they didn't tell us about (such as turn on AA and all the rest of it for the athlon review, and leave it off for the p4, cuz we all know the 4600 can't handle that stuff)
My 4200 (128MB) overclocked to 290/550 (about Ti4500 :wink: ) plays games quite nicely at 1280x960x32 with Quincunx AA and 8x AF, always maintaining at least 30fps in more demanding games (UT2k3 :smile: ), and higher fps in other games.
30 fps is enough to seem smooth to the human eye, so it's enough for me. It doesn't seem choppy at all.
Note that in a lot of the recent CPU articles the Athlon 2800 is putting up a good fight against the P4s, unless you're into insane overclocking. Seriously, I don't think they were running the same test.