Have posted before about this card...started out at around 8014 and after upgrading drivers and tweaking...was getting high benchmarks 9042 on Fic Ad11, pc2100 ddr, 1.4 athlon; with no glitches at all...well after putting it in a shuttle ak35gt2 with pc2700, 2100+ amd cpu and working out some bios bugs and cpu settings (with community help)...my first benchmark came out to 10236 (and this card is not an OCer)...and I haven't even started to configure refresh rate and drivers (except for driver upgrades & making sure v/sync was off). Good card...not to mention that even when I emailed BFG Tech. about adapter defaults and monitor refresh rates...they got right back to me with the info I requested. Just wanted to make a note of this because I know that people are always wondering which card and manufacturer to go with...I would add it to the other good cards mentioned...P.S. Thanx again Noko for alerting community to the sale.