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Anonymous
October 31, 2004 6:05:36 AM

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I have now had 2 Civ III CD's damaged by my kids. The last one I made a
copy of it's contents to a folder on my system. I've tried burning it to
another disc, but I can't seem to fool the system. I've ben addicted to
this game since 1993, but I don't want to buy another copy of something I've
already bought twice. Is there anyway around this?

Thanks

Jason

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Anonymous
October 31, 2004 6:05:37 AM

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"news.west.earthlink.net" <jason.martin@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>I have now had 2 Civ III CD's damaged by my kids. The last one I made a
>copy of it's contents to a folder on my system. I've tried burning it to
>another disc, but I can't seem to fool the system. I've ben addicted to
>this game since 1993, but I don't want to buy another copy of something
>I've already bought twice. Is there anyway around this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jason


no offence intended, but why the hell are your kids damaging your cd's...
especially the same one "twice"!!! if they can't be around your disks then
you need to:

1) punish them somehow for breaking them in the first place.
2) move the cd's to a place that they can't get to.
3) you and you mate need to have a long heart-to-heart talk about why the
heck your kids seem to lack the discipline to NOT break stuff that isn't
theirs in the first place...

as for your symptoms of the problem, namely the broken disks... no can help
there, try some warez, or crackz sites, they may be able to help with your
burned cd problem.
Anonymous
October 31, 2004 2:51:18 PM

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u shud try clone cd or alcohol 120% they create images of urcd on to ur hard
drive then u copy the image back to a blank cd
"GOD" <God@Gods-r-us.com> wrote in message
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>
> "news.west.earthlink.net" <jason.martin@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:4EYgd.13475$KJ6.8797@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>I have now had 2 Civ III CD's damaged by my kids. The last one I made a
>>copy of it's contents to a folder on my system. I've tried burning it to
>>another disc, but I can't seem to fool the system. I've ben addicted to
>>this game since 1993, but I don't want to buy another copy of something
>>I've already bought twice. Is there anyway around this?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jason
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Anonymous
October 31, 2004 3:19:22 PM

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I use a virtual cd program. I create a virtual cd of the Civ disk.
The computer thinks that the actual cd is loaded and the program runs
just as if it was.

http://www.virtualcd-online.com/

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"news.west.earthlink.net" <jason.martin@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I have now had 2 Civ III CD's damaged by my kids. The last one I made a
> copy of it's contents to a folder on my system. I've tried burning it to
> another disc, but I can't seem to fool the system. I've ben addicted to
> this game since 1993, but I don't want to buy another copy of something
I've
> already bought twice. Is there anyway around this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jason
>
>
Anonymous
October 31, 2004 3:21:16 PM

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"news.west.earthlink.net" <jason.martin@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>I have now had 2 Civ III CD's damaged by my kids. The last one I made a
>copy of it's contents to a folder on my system. I've tried burning it to
>another disc, but I can't seem to fool the system. I've ben addicted to
>this game since 1993, but I don't want to buy another copy of something
>I've already bought twice. Is there anyway around this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jason
>

Alchohold 120% with safedisc 2/3 will make a working image file.
Wouldnt know about burning one.

(Yes I own the game)
Anonymous
October 31, 2004 5:37:03 PM

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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 12:21:16 GMT, "Vladesch"
<vladeschxxxx@bigxxxxxpond.net.auxxx> wrote:

>Alchohold 120% with safedisc 2/3 will make a working image file.
>Wouldnt know about burning one.
>
>(Yes I own the game)

All of you know you need the original CD's to make valid copies with
these programs. I agree with God. He just needs to deal with his
kids. He is resorting to stealing in order handle his kids
carelessness. You have to wonder what they will do next. Computers
are too expensive to be playing around.
Anonymous
October 31, 2004 8:04:04 PM

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I used Alcohol 120% with the safedisc and made a backup copy of Conquests
that works pretty well. The are other programs out there for backups they
seem to run between $40 and$50.
M.B.

"news.west.earthlink.net" <jason.martin@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>I have now had 2 Civ III CD's damaged by my kids. The last one I made a
>copy of it's contents to a folder on my system. I've tried burning it to
>another disc, but I can't seem to fool the system. I've ben addicted to
>this game since 1993, but I don't want to buy another copy of something
>I've already bought twice. Is there anyway around this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jason
>
October 31, 2004 11:02:21 PM

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The problem is that my wife and I forget to put the disk up. My kids still
too young to expect to keep his hands off things. Oh, and who said anything
about steeling. I read the license agreement, I'm entitled to use both
copies, even if they're scratched up. It's currently installed on my
system, it just insists I insert the disk. I guess I'll have to go buy it.
Been looking into Conquests anyway.

Thanks for the flames

Jason
"P12" <nowhere@all.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 12:21:16 GMT, "Vladesch"
> <vladeschxxxx@bigxxxxxpond.net.auxxx> wrote:
>
>>Alchohold 120% with safedisc 2/3 will make a working image file.
>>Wouldnt know about burning one.
>>
>>(Yes I own the game)
>
> All of you know you need the original CD's to make valid copies with
> these programs. I agree with God. He just needs to deal with his
> kids. He is resorting to stealing in order handle his kids
> carelessness. You have to wonder what they will do next. Computers
> are too expensive to be playing around.
Anonymous
October 31, 2004 11:02:22 PM

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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:02:21 GMT, "Jason" <jason.martin@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>The problem is that my wife and I forget to put the disk up. My kids still
>too young to expect to keep his hands off things. Oh, and who said anything
>about steeling. I read the license agreement, I'm entitled to use both
>copies, even if they're scratched up. It's currently installed on my
>system, it just insists I insert the disk. I guess I'll have to go buy it.
>Been looking into Conquests anyway.
>
>Thanks for the flames

If you buy Conquests it will ask for that CD instead of the original
one.

Otherwise all you really need is a no-cd patch. I think you basically
replace the orginal exe with a patched version which doesn't do the
secue check. Make sure you back up the original first and virus scan
the patched file.
Anonymous
November 1, 2004 6:42:28 AM

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P12 <nowhere@all.com> wrote in
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> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 12:21:16 GMT, "Vladesch"
> <vladeschxxxx@bigxxxxxpond.net.auxxx> wrote:
>
>>Alchohold 120% with safedisc 2/3 will make a working image file.
>>Wouldnt know about burning one.
>>
>>(Yes I own the game)
>
> All of you know you need the original CD's to make valid copies with
> these programs. I agree with God. He just needs to deal with his
> kids. He is resorting to stealing in order handle his kids
> carelessness. You have to wonder what they will do next. Computers
> are too expensive to be playing around.

Use of a backup cd, virtual cd, or no-cd crack does not equal
stealing. I use no-cd cracks and virtual cd's for almost everything I
own, but I still own the program.
And we've dealt with the kids problem before in here as well.
First, seeing your posts is not going change how he deals with his
children, so why bother making those types of comments. Secondly,
maybe there is a reason for the damaged cd's.
Basically what I'm saying is either cut him a break or ignore him.
The flames aren't necessary, helpful, or in the spirit of this
(generally very friendly) newsgroup community.

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Anonymous
November 1, 2004 12:43:49 PM

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"P12" <nowhere@all.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 12:21:16 GMT, "Vladesch"
> <vladeschxxxx@bigxxxxxpond.net.auxxx> wrote:
>
>>Alchohold 120% with safedisc 2/3 will make a working image file.
>>Wouldnt know about burning one.
>>
>>(Yes I own the game)
>
> All of you know you need the original CD's to make valid copies with
> these programs. I agree with God. He just needs to deal with his
> kids. He is resorting to stealing in order handle his kids
> carelessness. You have to wonder what they will do next. Computers
> are too expensive to be playing around.

Since making backup copies of software you already own is allowed, I would
hardly call it stealing.
Agree with the rest tho.
November 2, 2004 5:23:37 AM

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Well, since it's too late to back it up, any idea where I can find the no-cd
patch? In the midst of Christmas shopping, wife wouldn't be happy if I buy
a new game (Conquests). Besides, wouldn't be surprised if she already
bought it for me. Just have to wait.

Thanks

Jason
"P12" <nowhere@all.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:02:21 GMT, "Jason" <jason.martin@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>The problem is that my wife and I forget to put the disk up. My kids
>>still
>>too young to expect to keep his hands off things. Oh, and who said
>>anything
>>about steeling. I read the license agreement, I'm entitled to use both
>>copies, even if they're scratched up. It's currently installed on my
>>system, it just insists I insert the disk. I guess I'll have to go buy
>>it.
>>Been looking into Conquests anyway.
>>
>>Thanks for the flames
>
> If you buy Conquests it will ask for that CD instead of the original
> one.
>
> Otherwise all you really need is a no-cd patch. I think you basically
> replace the orginal exe with a patched version which doesn't do the
> secue check. Make sure you back up the original first and virus scan
> the patched file.
Anonymous
November 4, 2004 3:30:55 AM

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On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 02:23:37 GMT, "Jason" <jason.martin@earthlink.net>
wrote:

>Well, since it's too late to back it up, any idea where I can find the no-cd
>patch? In the midst of Christmas shopping, wife wouldn't be happy if I buy
>a new game (Conquests). Besides, wouldn't be surprised if she already
>bought it for me. Just have to wait.
>
>Thanks
>
>Jason

I don't use them myself. Here is a general description of what to
look for:
http://spacetarget.com/games/pc_generic_safedisc.shtml

Replacing the exe with a patched version is the easiest. There is a
link at the bottom but I am not sure if you have winrar or of the PTW
patch will work. You need Civ III 1.29f.

It appears the people who use these would rather bitch at me than
provide details where to get them.
Anonymous
November 4, 2004 3:30:55 AM

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On 1 Nov 2004 03:42:28 GMT, "Kevin 'Keeper' Foster"
<thekeeper@canada.com> wrote:

> Use of a backup cd, virtual cd, or no-cd crack does not equal
>stealing. I use no-cd cracks and virtual cd's for almost everything I
>own, but I still own the program.
> And we've dealt with the kids problem before in here as well.
>First, seeing your posts is not going change how he deals with his
>children, so why bother making those types of comments. Secondly,
>maybe there is a reason for the damaged cd's.
> Basically what I'm saying is either cut him a break or ignore him.
>The flames aren't necessary, helpful, or in the spirit of this
>(generally very friendly) newsgroup community.

So why don't you help him instead of making flames at me.
Anonymous
November 4, 2004 9:29:54 AM

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Jason <jason.martin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Well, since it's too late to back it up, any idea where I can find the no-cd
> patch? In the midst of Christmas shopping, wife wouldn't be happy if I buy

gamecopyworld.com to the rescue:
http://gcw.websytenj.com/games/pc_civilization_3.shtml
Just pick the right one (don't remember if the right one is the one with
Civilization 3: Conquests v1.0 [ENGLISH] No-CD/Fixed EXE -package).

-- tero
November 4, 2004 10:50:45 AM

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Either I am not reading it correctly, or I have not found the NO-CD
patch for 1.22 C3C.

I don't know what "fixed exe" means, but it doesn't say "no-CD".

any suggestions?

Thanks for the help.

Buck



On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 06:29:54 +0000 (UTC), Tero Könnölä
<weetabix@techie.com.invalid> wrote:

>Jason <jason.martin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Well, since it's too late to back it up, any idea where I can find the no-cd
>> patch? In the midst of Christmas shopping, wife wouldn't be happy if I buy
>
>gamecopyworld.com to the rescue:
>http://gcw.websytenj.com/games/pc_civilization_3.shtml
>Just pick the right one (don't remember if the right one is the one with
>Civilization 3: Conquests v1.0 [ENGLISH] No-CD/Fixed EXE -package).
>
>-- tero
Anonymous
November 4, 2004 1:32:34 PM

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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 07:50:45 -0500, Buck <uce@ftc.org> wrote:

>Either I am not reading it correctly, or I have not found the NO-CD
>patch for 1.22 C3C.
>
>I don't know what "fixed exe" means, but it doesn't say "no-CD".
>
>any suggestions?
>
>Thanks for the help.

Finding No-CD for the game with patches can be tricky. I can't
point to a URL, but you can try searching different no-CD sites and
hope to find one which works.

The alternative is to make a disk image file, and load from that.
Takes up more hard drive space, but it has the advantage of working
with future patches -- something which no-CD cracks may not do. One
more patch is anticipated for Conquests, though I don't know how long
it will be before it's out.

>On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 06:29:54 +0000 (UTC), Tero Könnölä
><weetabix@techie.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Jason <jason.martin@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Well, since it's too late to back it up, any idea where I can find the no-cd
>>> patch? In the midst of Christmas shopping, wife wouldn't be happy if I buy
>>
>>gamecopyworld.com to the rescue:
>>http://gcw.websytenj.com/games/pc_civilization_3.shtml
>>Just pick the right one (don't remember if the right one is the one with
>>Civilization 3: Conquests v1.0 [ENGLISH] No-CD/Fixed EXE -package).
>>
>>-- tero
>

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Anonymous
November 4, 2004 6:09:24 PM

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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 03:05:36 GMT, news.west.earthlink.net <jason.martin@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I have now had 2 Civ III CD's damaged by my kids.

Head down to your local Radio Shack and buy their CD/DVD "repair device".
It's basically a very mild abrasive system, lubricated by alcohol,
that polishes the scratches out of the CDs and DVDs. It works well,
I have only found one (very deeply scratched) CD that it couldn't deal
with. Paid for itself the first time I used it. No affiliation with,
yadda yadda yadda.

Dave Hinz
Anonymous
November 4, 2004 6:12:17 PM

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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 14:37:03 -0500, P12 <nowhere@all.com> wrote:
>
> All of you know you need the original CD's to make valid copies with
> these programs. I agree with God. He just needs to deal with his
> kids.

Parenting advice based on not enough information, from an anonymous poster
in a Usenet gaming group, is worth exactly nothing.

> He is resorting to stealing in order handle his kids
> carelessness.

Maybe you missed the part about him having the originals (twice, even)?
Or, are you considering this as stealing anyway, because the media is
damaged and he still wants to use what he has paid for?

> You have to wonder what they will do next. Computers
> are too expensive to be playing around.

Right, because you sure wouldn't want the kids to, you know, learn
how to _use one_ or anything.

Sheesh...
Anonymous
November 5, 2004 12:36:47 PM

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Buck <uce@ftc.org> wrote:
> Either I am not reading it correctly, or I have not found the NO-CD
> patch for 1.22 C3C.
> I don't know what "fixed exe" means, but it doesn't say "no-CD".

Did you try it? I am pretty sure, that it will work as no-cd exe. Since
the main purpose of the "fixed exes" is to remove the need of using cd
while playing.

-- tero
November 5, 2004 6:16:06 PM

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On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 09:36:47 +0000 (UTC), Tero Könnölä
<weetabix@techie.com.invalid> wrote:

>Buck <uce@ftc.org> wrote:
>> Either I am not reading it correctly, or I have not found the NO-CD
>> patch for 1.22 C3C.
>> I don't know what "fixed exe" means, but it doesn't say "no-CD".
>
>Did you try it? I am pretty sure, that it will work as no-cd exe. Since
>the main purpose of the "fixed exes" is to remove the need of using cd
>while playing.
>
>-- tero
The only one I have in exe format wants to uninstall my program rather
than fix it.

I don't know if it wants to uninstall and then reinstall or not, but I
didn't want to take chances just now.

The other programs are RAR format and I don't have a decomppressor for
RAR files.

Thanks

Buck
Anonymous
November 6, 2004 12:44:10 AM

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Buck <uce@ftc.org> wrote:
> I don't know if it wants to uninstall and then reinstall or not, but I
> didn't want to take chances just now.

Usually you rename the original exe file (which the game is started), for
example Civ3Conquests.exe to Civ3Conquests.exe_orig and copy the "fixed
exe" to that same name. Purpose being that you can undo the thing just
deleting the fixed one and renaming file to original form (removing
_orig).

You apply all the original patches you want to use and after that do that
renaming thing. This because the patches don't work with the "fixed exe".

> The other programs are RAR format and I don't have a decomppressor for
> RAR files.

http://www.rarsoft.com/rar/wrar341.exe (trial version, but it will work).

-- tero
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