Should I make peace?

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Daran wrote:
> I'm at war with the Americans after refusing their demand for a tech as
> tribute. They're now willing to talk, and I can buy peace for a little over
> 100 gold, which I can easily afford. The question is, should I? All the
> usual reasons for wanting peace don't apply in my current situation:
>
> * They can't attack me. They won't be able to attack me until they gain
> astronomy, and they don't even have mathematics.
>
> * They've nothing I want to buy, and they can't afford to buy anything off
> me.
>
> * They can't afford to buy alliances against me. Even if they could, I'm
> pretty certain they're not in contact with anyone as it would take an ocean
> journey to reach them, and I don't think anyone has that ability.
Be careful. If you have neighbors they've contacted then sometimes
trivial bribes can get them to declare war on you.
>
> * It's not causing me any unhappiness - the contrary, my population is
> actually happier, because they declared war on me. I'd need to increase my
> luxury rate to compensate if I made peace.
IIRC war weariness only affects Republics and Democracies. If you're in
Depotism war/peace should have no effect.
>
> I'm currently despotic, but expect to switch to Republic within 25 turns.
> The only reason I can think of for making peace *now* is that perhaps I'm
> building up war weariness which will affect me in future wars against them.
> (They are likely to make further demands for a while, which I will continue
> to refuse. In any case, I intend to annihilate them when I gain astronomy,
> or shortly afterwards. I may be democratic by then.)
The war weariness doesn't start until you go rep/dem.
>
> So should I make peace?
For a pittance, I'd make peace unless you expect to start your conquest
of America before the end of 20 turns. Being at peace with everybody is
generally a safer condition to be in.
>

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Jason King <jhking@airmail.net> wrote:

> Be careful. If you have neighbors they've contacted then sometimes
> trivial bribes can get them to declare war on you.

As I said, I'm about as certain as I can be that they're not in contact with
anyone.

>> * It's not causing me any unhappiness - the contrary, my population is
>> actually happier, because they declared war on me. I'd need to increase
>> my luxury rate to compensate if I made peace.
> IIRC war weariness only affects Republics and Democracies. If you're in
> Depotism war/peace should have no effect.

I think it does affect some of the less common governments too, but it
certainly doesn't affect despotism. What's bothering me is that in other
games, I've had war declared upon my Republic/Democracy and suffered
immediate, severe WW, even though I've never been at war against them before
under those governments. I think what happens is that *every* prior turn of
war (regardless of government) counts against you, but the effects only
apply under representative governments.

>> So should I make peace?
> For a pittance, I'd make peace unless you expect to start your conquest of
> America before the end of 20 turns. Being at peace with everybody is
> generally a safer condition to be in.

The downside of that is that they're likely to keep coming back and
demanding techs.

This has all been rendered academic anyway. The very next turn, they
acquired the Republic - a tech that was actually quite rare among the other
civs, so I immediately made peace, and bought the tech for mathematics +
cash (then get all my cash back by selling them currency). I was then able
to trade and trade again with the other civs for literacy, monotheism,
feudalism, engineering, chivalry, invention, and lots of cash.

I love it when that happens. :-)

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Daran