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Need buying advice please?

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February 5, 2002 9:16:33 AM

Hi

Basically i just play Games on my pc and surf the net.
I am looking to upgrade what i currently have for games purposes.

900 mhz tbird athlon
512mb ram
geforce2 mx
Jetway 663 motherboard (crap)

I am looking to get a faster cpu and my mobo and also get a better graphics card.I am going to ask about graphics cards in the Graphics card forum'but need some advice on whats best for mobo and chips combo.

At the bottom of the page i will paste and copy a list of the mobo's and cpu's available to me.My budget is £220 and basically will hopefully not need to upgrade again for many years to come.

Please can you advise what you all think is best.
I don't really understand whats the difference between 200mhz and 266mhz chips either.Also don't know what a Socket A DDR board is compared to just Socket A.

I will now post the available seperate prices'but my supplier also has some combo deals which i will post at the bottom.

Thanx

P.S Please feel free to reply in my GC thread.





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Mobo's


MBD-ABIT-KT7A ABIT KT7A 266MHZ UDMA-100 SOCKET A 5+ 69.00 81.08
MBD-ABIT-KT7AR ABIT KT7A-R 266MHZ UDMA-100 SOCK A 5+ 82.00 96.35
MBD-ASUS-A7A133 ASUS A7A133 Out 66.00 77.55
MBD-ASUS-A7V133 ASUS A7V133 SOCKET A MAINBOARD 5+ 79.00 92.83
MBD-ASUS-A7VE ASUS A7VE 2 59.00 69.33
MBD-ECS-K7VMA ELITE K7VMA 1 59.00 69.33
MBD-FIC-AZ11 FIC AZ-11 KT133 SOCKET A 2 55.00 64.63
MBD-GIG-7ZXE GIGABYTE GA-7ZXE 5+ 62.00 72.85
MBD-GIG-GA71XEH GIGABYTE GA-71XE-H Out 42.00 49.35
MBD-GIG-GA7ZMMH GIGABYTE GA-7ZMMH 5+ 68.00 79.90
MBD-IWILL-KK26+R IWILL KK266+R 4 95.00 111.63
MBD-IWILL-KK266 IWILL KK266 KT133A SOCKET A 5+ 79.00 92.83
MBD-IWILL-KK266R IWILL KK266R RAID KT133A SOCKET A 4 89.00 104.58
MBD-JET-663U JETWAY 663AS ULTRA KT133A 266MHZ 5+ 59.00 69.33
MBD-JET-830CN JETWAY 830CN 5+ 51.00 59.93
MBD-JET-830CN/H JETWAY 830CNH ULTRA SIS730SE 266MHZ 5+ 51.00 59.93
MBD-MSI-6378 MICROSTAR 6378 SOCKET A MAINBOARD 3 50.00 58.75
MBD-PCC-810-266 PC CHIPS/ECS 810/730 SCKT A MB- 266 5+ 52.00 61.10
MBD-PCC-812LMR PC CHIPS 812LMR 5+ 54.00 63.45
Socket A DDR
MBDD-ABIT-KG7 ABIT KG7 5+ 88.00 103.40
MBDD-ABIT-KG7L ABIT KG7 LITE 5+ 77.00 90.48
MBDD-ABIT-KG7R ABIT KG7-RAID 5+ 99.00 116.33
MBDD-ABIT-KR7A ABIT KR7A 5+ 99.00 116.33
MBDD-ABIT-KR7A3 ABIT KR7A-133 5+ 105.00 123.38
MBDD-ABIT-KR7A3R ABIT KR7A-133 RAID Out 130.00 152.75
MBDD-ABIT-KR7AR ABIT KR7A-RAID 5+ 119.00 139.83
MBDD-ASUS-A7AE26 ASUS A7A266-E 5+ 97.00 113.98
MBDD-ASUS-A7M ASUS A7M266 5+ 113.00 132.78
MBDD-ASUS-A7M-D ASUS A7M266-D (DUAL PROCESSOR) 2 189.00 222.08
MBDD-ASUS-A7VE26 ASUS A7V266-E 5+ 113.00 132.78
MBDD-ECS-K7S5A ELITE K7S5A 5+ 47.50 55.81
MBDD-ECS-K7S6A ELITE K7S6A 5+ 69.00 81.08
MBDD-ECS-K7VTA3 ELITE K7VTA3 5+ 55.00 64.63
MBDD-ELI-K7AMA ELITE K7AMA SOCKET A 5+ 54.00 63.45
MBDD-GIG-GA7DX GIGABYTE GA-7DX 5+ 78.00 91.65
MBDD-GIG-GA7DXR GIGABYTE GA-7DXR 5+ 87.00 102.23
MBDD-GIG-GA7VTXE GIGABYTE GA-7VTXE 5+ 59.00 69.33
MBDD-IWILL-A26+ IWILL KA266+ Out 95.00 111.63
MBDD-IWILL-A26+R IWILL KA266+R 3 96.00 112.80
MBDD-IWILL-KA266 IWILL KA266 ALI SOCKET A 5+ 90.00 105.75
MBDD-IWILL-KA26R IWILL KA266R RAID ALI SOCKET A 5+ 96.00 112.80
MBDD-IWIL-XP333R IWILL XP333-R 5+ 99.00 116.33
MBDD-JET-867AS JETWAY 867AS 5+ 55.00 64.63
MBDD-MSI-6373 MICROSTAR K7N420 N-FORCE 5+ 125.00 146.88
MBDD-TYAN-S2460 TYAN TIGER MP 5+ 172.00 202.10
MBDD-TYAN-S2462 TYAN THUNDER K7 Out 305.00 358.38


Chips
A Multi Processor CPUs
CPU-A-MP-1000 AMD ATHLON MP 1GHZ (OEM) 2 112.00 131.60
CPU-A-MP-1500 AMD ATHLON MP 1500 [1.30GHZ] (OEM) 1 129.00 151.58
CPU-A-MP-1600 AMD ATHLON MP 1600 [1.40GHZ] (OEM) Out 146.00 171.55
Socket A CPUs (200MHZ)
CPU-A-K71000T AMD ATHLON 1000 THUND SOCKET (OEM) 1 64.00 75.20
CPU-A-K71300T AMD ATHLON 1300 [200FSB] (OEM) 5+ 77.00 90.48
CPU-A-K71400T200 AMD ATHLON 1400 [200FSB] (OEM) Out 84.00 98.70
CPU-AMD-D-1000 AMD DURON 1000 (OEM) 4 47.00 55.23
CPU-AMD-D-1100 AMD DURON 1100 (OEM) Out 59.00 69.33
CPU-AMD-D-1200 AMD DURON 1200 (OEM) 3 64.00 75.20
CPU-AMD-D-800 AMD DURON 800 (OEM) 5+ 33.00 38.78
CPU-AMD-D-850 AMD DURON 850 (OEM) 5+ 36.00 42.30
CPU-AMD-D-950 AMD DURON 950 (OEM) 5+ 45.00 52.88
Socket A CPUs (266MHZ)
CPU-A-K71100T266 AMD ATHLON 1100 [266FSB] (OEM) 5+ 66.00 77.55
CPU-A-K71300T266 AMD ATHLON 1333 [266FSB] (OEM) 5+ 77.00 90.48
CPU-A-K71400T266 AMD ATHLON 1400 [266FSB] (OEM) 5+ 82.50 96.94
CPU-A-XP-1500 AMD ATHLON XP 1500 (OEM) 5+ 89.00 104.58
CPU-A-XP-1600 AMD ATHLON XP 1600 [1.40GHZ] (OEM) 5+ 92.00 108.10
CPU-A-XP-1700 AMD ATHLON XP 1700 [1.47GHZ] (OEM) 5+ 97.00 113.98
CPU-A-XP-1800 AMD ATHLON XP 1800 [1.53GHZ] (OEM) 5+ 119.00 139.83
CPU-A-XP-1900 AMD ATHLON XP 1900 [1.60GHZ] (OEM) 5+ 167.00 196.23
CPU-A-XP-2000 AMD ATHLON XP 2000 [1.67GHZ] (OEM) 4 202.00 237.35
Slot 1 CPUs
CPU-I-P3-866-F INTEL PENTIUM-III 866 (SLOT, 133) 1 70.00 82.25


combos



BUN-1333-810-25 ARIA VALUE COMBO 7- A 1333/810/256 5+ 169.00 198.58
BUN-K7S5A-DDR ARIA VALUE COMBO 10- A 1333/S5A/256 2 162.00 190.35

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February 5, 2002 10:21:40 AM

I have these mobo;

ABIT-KT7A-Raid, chip KT133 with Sdram. I don't give a [peep] what anybody els says, cause I have two of these mobo and love them.

ABIT-KR7A, chip KT266A, with DDR. I don't give a [peep] what anybody els says, cause I love this mobo.

ASUS A7M266, chip AMD 761, with DDR. I don't give a [peep] what anybody els says. This mobo was very stable and didn't give me any problem installing OS or anything, down side it didn't play UT very well for me, so I gave it away.
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February 5, 2002 2:55:39 PM

*In my opinion* Asus is the cadilliac of mobo's, I have been running my A7V for over a year with minimal problems, all incurred by my own doing.
MBD-ASUS-A7A133 ASUS A7A133 Out 66.00 77.55 - Great board with the Ali MaGik chipset
MBD-ASUS-A7V133 ASUS A7V133 SOCKET A MAINBOARD 5+ 79.00 92.83 - another good board running VIA chipset *some people frown upon VIA*
MBD-ASUS-A7VE ASUS A7VE 2 59.00 69.33 - Same board with raid controllers

If you are looking for a stable board for gaming, Asus is the way to go. I have run several high resource games like counter-strike, tribes 2, diablo 2, and others and have no problems. I'm also running a Geforce 3 Ti 500 :)  but never-the-less this board has ran great. If you are looking for a AMD board. Check out the reviews at www.amdmb.com they rant and rave about all the AMD boards. Good luck.

What the hell is a gigaflop, who cares it blows away Pentium :smile:
February 5, 2002 10:48:36 PM

Actually, your mobo and CPU are still perfectly adequate for now. You'll get a much better performance boost by upgrading your vid card than anything else.

The main problem here is that your 512 Mb RAM is most likely SD-RAM and not DDR. All the new mobo's support only DDR. There's no way you'll get a decent mobo + CPU + 512 DDR RAM for 220 pounds. It'll cost 100 for the DDR RAM alone.

Replacing your vid card with a GF3 or a Radeon 8500 will pretty well double your framerate, even if everything else is left alone.

If you do insist on upgrading then I would keep the mobo and RAM and just upgrade the CPU. The Athlon XP 1.7 is looking mighty fine. Double your CPU speed for 114 quid.

I agree that Jetway mobo's are cr@p, but your current setup, plus a new vid card should last you until Christmas. Then who knows what Santa will bring, especially if you drop enough hints ;) 

If you do insist on upgrading everything, stay away from the Jetway and the PCC (or PC Chips) mobo's. They are cheep knockoffs of better mobo's. You'll want a 233 FSB CPU (preferably an XP) as the 200 FSB are just about dead now. The ECS K7S5A is a good cheep board that accepts both SD-RAM and DDR-RAM so you can re-use 2 sticks of your current RAM and upgrade to DDR at a later date. I think (I'm not certain on this) that this is the fastest mobo that will accept SD-RAM. There are faster boards, but they will use DDR.

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