tyan and asus boards have already been out 2-3 weeks now. asus chose to include a usb2.0 card, while tyan chose to include a usb1.1 card. i've read a lot of posts on other forums saying that on asus's board, they cannot get the system to POST at all with the usb in the 64/66 slots. i personally don't like having to use an addon card for something that should be an integral part of the chipset in the first place. usb isn't new and it makes me wonder what "else" amd had trouble with on this chipset. to me it would be like shipping boards with no functional ide controller, but including a pci hdd controller. that is why i haven't purchased a mpx board yet and probably won't. i'll most likely wait til a revision comes out for the thoroughbred (if one does) or the hammer chipset. i don't know if msi released theirs already, haven't really looked at theirs, but that is why we haven't seen gigabyte, abit or epox boards hit the street yet. they are/were waiting for the fix, gigabyte said 2 weeks, which is around the same time i finally got it out of someone from amd about when "fixed" mobos would be out.
Dorks = people that use their system specs for sigs.