What's the best RPG out there
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steve_sa
January 15, 2006 2:52:57 AM
Having played and enjoyed Heretic and Doom a loooonnggg time ago, and havnig been away from gaming for a long time...
What is a good similar game today? I download demo of the latest Doom, and could not get interested in it. Too slow on my pc, and I got hopelessly lost in the corridors. In any case, I always preferred Heretic I (not II) to Doom.
So what is out there these days??
What is a good similar game today? I download demo of the latest Doom, and could not get interested in it. Too slow on my pc, and I got hopelessly lost in the corridors. In any case, I always preferred Heretic I (not II) to Doom.
So what is out there these days??
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Ned_Flanders
January 15, 2006 8:22:35 PM
Flakes
January 15, 2006 9:14:46 PM
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Snorkius
January 16, 2006 6:49:36 AM
Wolfy
January 16, 2006 8:17:32 AM
...... What are the specs to your pc.
As Snorkius said the closest to doom/heretic is Painkiller. You don't really get Heretic type FPS's anymore. Maybe not a bad compromise as well here but there is Vampires Bloodlines may be a decent choice. It can be played both in first person and third person. Is dark, has weapons and magic. However it's foremost an rpg rather than a fps which is what you're wanting. Can also require a hefty pc and has a few bugs. Still a good game tho.
Another fantastic FPS is Chronicles of Riddick, escape from Butchers Bay.
As Snorkius said the closest to doom/heretic is Painkiller. You don't really get Heretic type FPS's anymore. Maybe not a bad compromise as well here but there is Vampires Bloodlines may be a decent choice. It can be played both in first person and third person. Is dark, has weapons and magic. However it's foremost an rpg rather than a fps which is what you're wanting. Can also require a hefty pc and has a few bugs. Still a good game tho.
Another fantastic FPS is Chronicles of Riddick, escape from Butchers Bay.
steve_sa
January 16, 2006 6:33:30 PM
Thanks, folks for the feedback. Yes, I am interested in FPS, I guess... forgot the correct terminology.
Loved the original Heretic's smoothness and charm (as compared to Doom which is a rough/dark game). I will start studying the ones suggested here by all four of you. Hopefully all have preview downloads.
Thanks again.
steve
Loved the original Heretic's smoothness and charm (as compared to Doom which is a rough/dark game). I will start studying the ones suggested here by all four of you. Hopefully all have preview downloads.
Thanks again.
steve
Wolfy
January 16, 2006 7:46:20 PM
Ned_Flanders
January 17, 2006 1:54:48 PM
steve_sa
January 19, 2006 5:08:10 PM
hmm...
I have to admit I did not buy the machine for gaming :roll: It is a retail HP media center (dual core, intel graphics, 1 gig ram). I tried to play FEAR download, and it said nVidia required or something.
But I did download Call of Duty, and it plays nice!! I am kind of hooked on that game, and I should soon fork out the money to get the full version.
Two questions:
-Can I stick a good video board into my machine. I presume the existing graphics is right on the motherboard?
-Any games comparable/better than COD, for FPS?
steve
I have to admit I did not buy the machine for gaming :roll: It is a retail HP media center (dual core, intel graphics, 1 gig ram). I tried to play FEAR download, and it said nVidia required or something.
But I did download Call of Duty, and it plays nice!! I am kind of hooked on that game, and I should soon fork out the money to get the full version.
Two questions:
-Can I stick a good video board into my machine. I presume the existing graphics is right on the motherboard?
-Any games comparable/better than COD, for FPS?
steve
Wolfy
January 20, 2006 9:42:58 AM
Dammit, stop posting in different sections.
Do you know what an AGP or PCI Express slot looks like?
If so grab yourself a 6800GT or equivalent, (look at THG gfx card tables) and your away, the rest of your machine is fine.
After that, I dunno, you probably will need to go into the bios and disable the onboard GFX, I think so you need to be comfortable with that stuff but others can give you better advice there.
As for comparable games, CoD1 is virtually out on it's own
CoD2 doesn't hold a candle to it in my eyes but is more of the same.
Personally once you get a better GFX card then download and try in no particular order:
Aliens Vs Predator 2
FEAR
COD1
Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay
HL2 I suppose despite me hating it.
Hidden and Dangerous 2
No One Lives Forever 2
Battlefield 2
Can't think of any others off the top of my head but don't stop with just FPSs
Download
Rome Total War
Command and Conquer Generals
Nexus: The Jupiter Incident
Homeworld 1 and 2
RPG:
Baldurs Gate 2
Morrowind
Neverwinter Nights
Vampires the masquerade: Bloodlines
Flight sims:
IL2 Sturmovik and it's add on packs
Lock On
Space Sims:
Freelancer
X2: The Threat
X3: Reunion
Independence wars: Edge of Chaos
Ah crap, can't think of the best space games ever...... what was it called, something wars..... Argh! Someone help me out here game was you as a fighter pilot against these insect like aliens.... Their battleships were HUGE...... Oh my poor aging gamer brain can't remember.
Anyway I need to get back to work.
Do you know what an AGP or PCI Express slot looks like?
If so grab yourself a 6800GT or equivalent, (look at THG gfx card tables) and your away, the rest of your machine is fine.
After that, I dunno, you probably will need to go into the bios and disable the onboard GFX, I think so you need to be comfortable with that stuff but others can give you better advice there.
As for comparable games, CoD1 is virtually out on it's own
CoD2 doesn't hold a candle to it in my eyes but is more of the same.Personally once you get a better GFX card then download and try in no particular order:
Aliens Vs Predator 2
FEAR
COD1
Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay
HL2 I suppose despite me hating it.
Hidden and Dangerous 2
No One Lives Forever 2
Battlefield 2
Can't think of any others off the top of my head but don't stop with just FPSs
Download
Rome Total War
Command and Conquer Generals
Nexus: The Jupiter Incident
Homeworld 1 and 2
RPG:
Baldurs Gate 2
Morrowind
Neverwinter Nights
Vampires the masquerade: Bloodlines
Flight sims:
IL2 Sturmovik and it's add on packs
Lock On
Space Sims:
Freelancer
X2: The Threat
X3: Reunion
Independence wars: Edge of Chaos
Ah crap, can't think of the best space games ever...... what was it called, something wars..... Argh! Someone help me out here game was you as a fighter pilot against these insect like aliens.... Their battleships were HUGE...... Oh my poor aging gamer brain can't remember.
Anyway I need to get back to work.
sluggo
January 22, 2006 11:36:28 PM
Goofus_Max
January 28, 2006 7:35:29 PM
For games your current computer (with intel integrated graphics
) can handle, you might try older games like Half Life (First Person Shooter), Diablo (action Role Playing Game), Warcraft 3 (Real Time Strategy), or Baldur's Gate II (Role Playing Game). You may even be able to play World of Warcraft, which is the newest in the new form of RPG; Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game, or MMORPG, which put you in a virtual world for a hourly-daily-monthly-or-yearly subscription fee.
If you feel too uncomfortable to fiddle with the innards of your HP computer, and don't have any precocious teenager relatives who could do so for you, you might want to invest in a computer that is made especially for playing the latest graphics-intensive games available like Half Life 2, Call of Duty 2, or Everquest 2. Commercial gaming solutions tend to be overpriced however, and adding your own graphics card (if your HP media center has the slots for it) and sound card (pretty much just Sound Blaster Audigy2 or higher for gaming) can really perk up your computer's gaming performance for a more reasonable price.
) can handle, you might try older games like Half Life (First Person Shooter), Diablo (action Role Playing Game), Warcraft 3 (Real Time Strategy), or Baldur's Gate II (Role Playing Game). You may even be able to play World of Warcraft, which is the newest in the new form of RPG; Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game, or MMORPG, which put you in a virtual world for a hourly-daily-monthly-or-yearly subscription fee.If you feel too uncomfortable to fiddle with the innards of your HP computer, and don't have any precocious teenager relatives who could do so for you, you might want to invest in a computer that is made especially for playing the latest graphics-intensive games available like Half Life 2, Call of Duty 2, or Everquest 2. Commercial gaming solutions tend to be overpriced however, and adding your own graphics card (if your HP media center has the slots for it) and sound card (pretty much just Sound Blaster Audigy2 or higher for gaming) can really perk up your computer's gaming performance for a more reasonable price.
dhlucke
January 29, 2006 7:47:34 PM
Wolfy
January 30, 2006 7:49:26 AM
RCPilot
January 30, 2006 9:02:26 AM
I'd say play PainKiller Gold & the Serious Sam series.....
Those games will teach you, eye / hand / keyboard / mouse, coordination needed to play FPSs..... A whole lot of action & some of my favorite games.... Those 2 games improved my performance in FPSs, more than any other games & they're dirt cheap........ You'll have to be able "Run & Gun, or your Done", in them!!!!!
Those games will teach you, eye / hand / keyboard / mouse, coordination needed to play FPSs..... A whole lot of action & some of my favorite games.... Those 2 games improved my performance in FPSs, more than any other games & they're dirt cheap........ You'll have to be able "Run & Gun, or your Done", in them!!!!!
bulkypc07
February 1, 2006 10:05:46 AM
steve_sa
February 1, 2006 4:51:25 PM
hungryduck
February 2, 2006 12:44:19 AM
RCPilot
February 2, 2006 9:15:49 AM
Oh, I game a plenty myself....
I have loaded & am playing right now:
Half-Life 2 = Best shooter I ever played
Doom3 = Worst game, waste of $$$
Far Cry = Great game
FEAR = Not a great game, once is enough
Serious Sam2 = Awesome game
Quake 4 = Doom 3 rip off. waste of $$$$
PainKiller Gold = Awesome game
On steam I have the ATI package.... So on my Steam account I have close to 20 games there....
I have loaded & am playing right now:
Half-Life 2 = Best shooter I ever played
Doom3 = Worst game, waste of $$$
Far Cry = Great game
FEAR = Not a great game, once is enough
Serious Sam2 = Awesome game
Quake 4 = Doom 3 rip off. waste of $$$$
PainKiller Gold = Awesome game
On steam I have the ATI package.... So on my Steam account I have close to 20 games there....
BigMac
February 2, 2006 9:54:00 AM
RCPilot
February 2, 2006 10:52:34 AM
Ned_Flanders
February 2, 2006 6:40:36 PM
RCPilot
February 3, 2006 8:39:59 AM
Goofus_Max
February 3, 2006 3:37:57 PM
Actually, I still play Doom and Doom II now and then, through Doom Legacy, and I'd play some Heretic too, if I hadn't lost the floppies for it long ago...
I kind of like Action RPGs like Diablo, Sacred, and Dungeon Siege II (I never played Dungeon Siege I, but I hear they're real similar). If they get cheap enough, go for it.
I kind of like Action RPGs like Diablo, Sacred, and Dungeon Siege II (I never played Dungeon Siege I, but I hear they're real similar). If they get cheap enough, go for it.
fiercetiger
February 3, 2006 4:47:37 PM
hungryduck
February 3, 2006 8:23:21 PM
fiercetiger
February 4, 2006 8:57:45 AM
Ned_Flanders
February 4, 2006 10:24:50 AM
fiercetiger
February 4, 2006 1:47:45 PM
Ned_Flanders
February 4, 2006 1:58:38 PM
fiercetiger
February 4, 2006 4:34:33 PM
Ned_Flanders
February 4, 2006 4:44:26 PM
Ned_Flanders
February 4, 2006 4:45:19 PM
fear13
February 4, 2006 4:57:31 PM
fiercetiger
February 4, 2006 5:42:12 PM
Flakes
February 4, 2006 9:42:51 PM
Quote:
i havent really played any of the final fantasy games....ive played a bit of 10 and got used to it but had to give it back to my matei might give them another go sometime
FF10 and FF10 x2 were the two worst FF games in my opinion, now lets see if i remember this correctly but my fav ff games are:
FF1
FF3
FF4
FF7
if i remember correctly lol, been aaaaalllllloooonnnnngggg time since i played them and i had to get japanese versions converted to english for some of them
steve_sa
February 5, 2006 9:34:40 PM
BigMac
February 6, 2006 6:27:52 AM
Quote:
Half Life II - best shooter, better than COD? (I am playing COD 1 right now, need better graphics to play COD II).HL2 system specs are not too over the hill and they made it look quite good regardless of that, although you do need some decent card to enjoy the dx9 graphics (full water reflections and the like).
The answer to your question is hard to give because there's a lot of different opinions out there what makes a good shooter.
If it is all about the shooting, then I think F.E.A.R. is top of the bill (only played SeriousSam2 demo, and it was too arcade for me). Great firefights, magnificent A.I., and I love bullet time. The environments are boring though and the story line is so so although I did like the scary moments (but they're brief). Great gfx but you need a beast to enjoy it to the max.
HL2 has very nice graphics at not too exuberant system specs, I love the gravity gun and the physics in general. I hate the way dynamic lighting and shadows are handled but that is the price for low system specs. Storyline was kind of fun, but I found the game too linear to make top of the bill. The switching between walking and different vehicles was nice, and I just love HDR (lost coast free add-on) but you need appropriate hardware for that.
FarCry wins in the non-linear gameplay department. Completely innovative in how you can go trhough each level in multiple non linear ways. And pretty good AI as well. Storyline was ok until the mutants were introduced, after that it sucked.
COD: I'm not a fan of war stories so I haven't really played it. Played the COD2 demo and was bored with that before completing it. Much too linear to my taste.
Wolfy
February 6, 2006 10:49:57 AM
FEAR, haven't played, have too many other games monopolising my time.
HL2: It's a long linear walk with terrible weapons, terrible vehicles, terrible and annoying enemies, terrible ending and just mostly boring. Saying that though the beauty is in the engine. It's not the prettiest in my eyes but it runs beautifully on most computers.
Far Cry: Was the prettiest of the bunch in my eyes for a while. Good game until the monsters come out to play. Farcry was always lacking something in my eyes, couldn't place it but no impetus to finish it.
CoD: Was top FPS for a very long time. Game is amazing in almost every way. It's basically a game that just grabbed me, immersed me and didn't let me go till the end. Simply brilliant. Add on pack ain't too bad either.
CoD II: Seems to have tried to improve on the sequel but on "improving" it's lost alot of the same charm. Seems intentionally manic now rather fluid as it once was.
Now the game I keep banging on about is Chronicles of Riddick Escape from butcher bay.
Fantastic graphics that are Doom III esque but not as poorly defined and don't take a super machine to run. The lighting system in the game is superb as darkness plays a major part in the game and accordingly the AI is also up to scratch to make use of this. Nothing like running out of the dark, sticking a knife into the neck of a guard and dragging his body back into the darkness without other guards noticing. The music and atmosphere is brilliant, you know it's gonna be good with the walk into the prison at the start, makes it feel like you are playing an epic. Game mixes RPG lite quests fluidly with FPS action. So yeah, Riddick is simply great. If you buy one game in the next month buy this, it should be cheap as chips now and you really won't be disappointed.
HL2: It's a long linear walk with terrible weapons, terrible vehicles, terrible and annoying enemies, terrible ending and just mostly boring. Saying that though the beauty is in the engine. It's not the prettiest in my eyes but it runs beautifully on most computers.
Far Cry: Was the prettiest of the bunch in my eyes for a while. Good game until the monsters come out to play. Farcry was always lacking something in my eyes, couldn't place it but no impetus to finish it.
CoD: Was top FPS for a very long time. Game is amazing in almost every way. It's basically a game that just grabbed me, immersed me and didn't let me go till the end. Simply brilliant. Add on pack ain't too bad either.
CoD II: Seems to have tried to improve on the sequel but on "improving" it's lost alot of the same charm. Seems intentionally manic now rather fluid as it once was.
Now the game I keep banging on about is Chronicles of Riddick Escape from butcher bay.
Fantastic graphics that are Doom III esque but not as poorly defined and don't take a super machine to run. The lighting system in the game is superb as darkness plays a major part in the game and accordingly the AI is also up to scratch to make use of this. Nothing like running out of the dark, sticking a knife into the neck of a guard and dragging his body back into the darkness without other guards noticing. The music and atmosphere is brilliant, you know it's gonna be good with the walk into the prison at the start, makes it feel like you are playing an epic. Game mixes RPG lite quests fluidly with FPS action. So yeah, Riddick is simply great. If you buy one game in the next month buy this, it should be cheap as chips now and you really won't be disappointed.
Ned_Flanders
February 6, 2006 11:01:14 AM
Wolfy
February 6, 2006 11:06:27 AM
Agrees with Ned. Still linear but a much more enjoyable game imo.
I can still remember the first time I played HL. Little things like.
"There's a bad guy, I'll run in here and he won't follow me!!!"
Grenade bounces in through door, boom I die.
"HOW THE FUCK HE DO THAT!!!!, AI isn't allowed to do that!!!!"
I can still remember the first time I played HL. Little things like.
"There's a bad guy, I'll run in here and he won't follow me!!!"
Grenade bounces in through door, boom I die.
"HOW THE FUCK HE DO THAT!!!!, AI isn't allowed to do that!!!!"
BigMac
February 6, 2006 2:09:37 PM
Quote:
If you're going to play halflife 2, please play half life 1 first. Graphics aren't appauling, and the gameplay / story is amazing. Half life 2 follows on in the story...so you're going to miss an aspect of the games if you just play 2.In that case, play HalfLife:Source. It plays like the original (with the original textures, alas) but you get the Source physics (and lighting but that's not very noticable).
steve_sa
February 6, 2006 4:37:52 PM
Wolfy
February 6, 2006 6:23:39 PM
Nah mate, linear means the player has no freedom in regards the path he chooses to complete an objective. In other words the player is directed down a set direction at all times.
Some games are blatently linear, other games like CoD are linear but mask it very well.
Then you have games like Far Cry which point you in the direction you need to go and it's up to you to take your own path although granted you are still guided as ultimately a game needs that (although not always, take X2 The threat for example, a space game where if you want you can leave the story and just build your own economic empire)
If you want a game which randomises where the bad guys come from I suggest giving SWAT 3 a run for it's money. It's flawed but one cool thing is that enemies and hostages etc are randomised each time a map restarts meaning you never know where anyone is. A very good touch.
Some games are blatently linear, other games like CoD are linear but mask it very well.
Then you have games like Far Cry which point you in the direction you need to go and it's up to you to take your own path although granted you are still guided as ultimately a game needs that (although not always, take X2 The threat for example, a space game where if you want you can leave the story and just build your own economic empire)
If you want a game which randomises where the bad guys come from I suggest giving SWAT 3 a run for it's money. It's flawed but one cool thing is that enemies and hostages etc are randomised each time a map restarts meaning you never know where anyone is. A very good touch.
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