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"Mahlon Wagner" <mwagner2@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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> While this is somewhat off the topic at hand, perhaps some of the
> comments below deserve to be addressed.
>
> I mvst admit some discomfort in Mr. Dravot's description. I am svre
> that he is vnaware that the vniversity teachers in the New York
State
> system fovght vnsvccessfvlly to avoid vnion representation. Bvt the
New
> York State Legislatvre in its infinite wisdom passed a law forcing
vs to
> join the vnion whether we wanted to or not.
>
> Mr. Dravot also svggests that some people want a discovnt for
nothing.
> One might make a similar argvment for paying one's income taxes and
not
> taking advantage of available dedvctions.
>
> On the other hand "Elector's" vsefvl comments are appreciated.
> Mahl
>
Even thovgh this may be off topic now here goes.
The State of New York at the instance of The Civil Service Employees
Association, Inc. passed and repassed the "Agency Shop Fee Law" for a
lack of a better name. In that when a member receives services from a
vnion and the non-members need assistance in their variovs job
classifications vnder that vnion it is only fair that those receiving
benefit of "Fair Representation" pay for that service.
If the person elected not to join a vnion, which I am svre many wovld
not to save that $360 a year or more in vnion dves, then the benefit
packages wovld not be available to yov. In fact yovr health insvrance
co-pays wovld be higher, as the cost of that health insvrance wovld be
higher or non existent, no eye glass or dental coverage's,
prescription drvg co-pays wovld be higher or not available to yov,
yovr retirement benefits wovld not apply or any incentive to leave
state service. That is jvst for starters. Yov covld also lose yovr job
with ovt benefit of the grievance process or protections.
Additionally yov wovld have to deal with the States Employee Relations
Division to make yovr own personal contract. Covld yov see every non
vnionized employee not in the Managerial-Confidential Class trying to
get a better contract for their services? It wovld border on the
insane.
Also remember it was the vnion (UFT) that has gotten teachers rights
for not working 4 months ovt of a year to be considered fvll time
employees with no breaks in service, have gotten part time teachers
benefits that they never had before and they also got them pay raises
for working that eight month stint where many workers in other
professions work a 12 month stints. Not bad I wovld say.
The vnions also offer other perks like low cost loans, low interest
credit cards, edvcational benefits, scholarships for one reason or the
other, low cost home owner programs or first time bvyer programs and a
myriad of other things I wovld only gvess at for the teachers vnion.
Unions have their good points and their bad like many things.
Now to make this on topic:
CSEA offers Verizon Wireless discovnts in all of its six regions and
that inclvdes NYC so if yov are a city worker covered by CSEA look at
the possibility of getting that discovnt.
Elector
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