BENCHMARKS

metal143 · May 14, 2002

Ok, Need some help Tweaking!!!!

I just upgraded my system from:: A7V-133 978Mhz to
A7V333
AMD 1900+
ATI Radeon 8500
Creative Audigy
512 DDR Ram 2.5CL
Maxtor 80gig 133

And my problem is 3DMARK 2001 SE only Benched at 8610

My old System Benched at 6348 To me this doesn't make much sense, Any suggestions???

Edited by metal143 on 05/22/02 10:02 AM.

sturm · May 14, 2002

what kind of bench mark were u expecting? ive got an older athlon 1.4 512mb ddr and 64mb ati radeon and mine was only 3950. were u expecting double ur old system?

xxsk8er101xx · May 14, 2002

update your drivers to the latest for your ATI card. and did you do a clean install when you swapped motherboards?

<A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/mysystemrig.html?id=9933" target="_new"> My Rig </A>

pr497 · May 14, 2002

what are you asking exactly?
is the score you got too low...too high or what?
to me...your score seems ok (maybe slightly lower)...but they're good scores no doubt.

ATI's drivers are like a broken faucet, they both keep on leaking...

metal143 · May 15, 2002

I was just looking at some of the scores on MadOnion
they were in the 10,000's , I'm going to reinstall windows, make it a FRESH install and see what happends.
And ya all my drivers are up to date.

Thanks guys

metal143 · May 15, 2002

Sturm , you only got a BENCHMARK of 3,000 or so. Dude I'm sorry that's really low considering what you have.

I was getting in the 6,000 with an AMD tbird 978, 512 pc-133, and Radeon 8500. No offence but that's really LOW

Later

Edited by metal143 on 05/22/02 09:56 AM.

buddry · May 15, 2002

I don't know how you get that high.
I got P3 850 384MB PC100 GF3 ti200 overclocked to better than a ti500.

I only get 5200.

Garbage Can?

metal143 · May 15, 2002

Well, for starters:

your running PC-100 RAM
only 384Meg and a 850

I had a AMD 978
512 PC-133 RAM
and ATI Radeon 32 DDR (Radeon 7200)
not to mention Asus A7V KT-133 MOBO (Best OVERCLOCKING BOARD)
and the score was 5,000+
and now I am Running
Asus A7V333
512 DDR
AMD 1900+ 1.6ghz
ATI Radeon 8500 64MEG
and getting 8,000+

Edited by metal143 on 05/22/02 10:01 AM.

Guest · May 15, 2002

My system is almost identical (except for the CPU):

A7V333
AMD 2000+
ATI Radeon 8500 (64 MB)
Creative Audigy
512 DDR Ram 2.5CL
Maxtor 80gig 133

With ATI's latest drivers (6071) here are my scores:

ATI Radeon (275/275): 8967

ATI Radeon (304/304): 9445

http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectdetails&projectType=6&projectId=3487548

I'm not sure how much of an impact the CPU is here (2000 vs 1900) but it may explain the difference.

Hope this helps.

metal143 · May 15, 2002

Cool dude, I'm going to reinstall Windows and try again
FAST FAST FAST I want SPEED, and I will have it
Which OS are you using?? I'm Using ME
XP for me not compatable with Everything STILL

IF IT AIN'T BROKE...........DAM MAKE IT FASTER!!!Edited by metal143 on 05/15/02 02:30 PM.

RT2002 · May 17, 2002

Congrats Metal,
Sounds like you're not doing too badly. Esp as you're using WinME. I've got a setup probably similar to sturm (btw i agree he's scoring way low). TB 1.4G@1.47Ghz 512M DRR. I just got an OEM R8500LE 128M. Problem was I had trouble w/ drivers and i had to use an old reference driver. Still scored 7575. Should be better after some tweaking.

metal143 · May 17, 2002

Are you using XP or ME

ME - grab the 9017 drivers they work great
XP - 6071 they came out on the 9th of May

IF IT AIN'T BROKE...........DAM IT, MAKE IT FASTER!!!

Guest · May 18, 2002

a score in the 8000's sounds about right for the setup you have.. as always a fresh install of windows helps and if i were you i'd ditch windows me. i managed a peak of 8023 3dmark which i havent been able to reach since and that was on an a7m266 with 256 meg ddr2100, xp1800 @1700(or there abouts) ibm 120gxp and a gf3ti200 overclocked to 220/490.. a usual score for my uncloked system is about 7600. but it has dropped as low as 7000.
depending on the drivers i use i could expect to gain or lose around 700 3dmark points. and when using 98 the chipset drivers actually lost me near to 1000 points.
changing from a board with the sis chipset to a 266 to an amd761 also ranged in 400/500 point differences.
i'm using xp now and scores are always alittle lower than what i got using 98, still i wouldnt now go back.,

AMD_Man · May 18, 2002

Set the RAM at the most aggressive settings and you'll jump another 200-300 pts or so.

"A penny saved is a penny earned!"

sakattack · May 20, 2002

YOU MUST BE KIDDING !!!

I had a AMD 978
512 PC-133 RAM
and ATI Radeon 32 DDR
not to mention Asus A7V KT-133 MOBO (Best OVERCLOCKING BOARD)
and the score was 6,000+
and now I am Running
Asus A7V333
512 DDR
AMD 1900+ 1.6ghz
ATI Radeon 64meg DDR
and getting 8,000+

Best Madonion 3dMark2001 score Athlon<1000 & Radeon DDR = 4000.
Best Madonion 3dMark2001 score any XP(1750) & Radeon DDR = 5500.

And those are probably 64MB Radeons

And you say that you got >6000 with Athlon @ 978 & Radeon 32 DDR
and >8000 with AMD 1900+ 1.6ghz & Radeon 64meg DDR !!!

Even in 3dMark2000 , for Athlon 1000 & Radeon there are only 7 above 6100 - just 13 above 6000.

And the best score for XP & Radeon is 7900 with 2nd best around 6300

Why don't you post a link to your Madonion Scores?
Maybe cause you are talking out of your ass.

phsstpok · May 20, 2002

I think it's just a typographical error.

In his first post Metal143 said he has a Radeon 8500 not a Radeon DDR.

I have so many cookies I now have a FAT problem!

sturm · May 20, 2002

as far as the beench marks go i may only have had 3950 but everything i run is smooth unreal tournament and other high 3d games have no problems. i dont overclock or anything else but standard settings. no offense but im not a speed freak. my friends 800 mhz dell with 384mb ram and 32 mb pci radeon only got 1650. and i agree getting numbers over 7000 and up does seem way too high.

sakattack · May 20, 2002

Granted for the XP-64 Radeon-8500

But the main thing is his bragging about Athlon 978-Radeon 32 = 6000+ and laughing at sturm's 3000:

Sturm , you only got a BENCHMARK of 3,000 or so. Dude I'm sorry that's really low considering what you have.

I was getting in the 6,000 with an AMD tbird 978, 512 pc-133, and Radeon 32 DDR. No offence but that's really LOW

HE IS talking about 3dMark2001 SE mind you.

phsstpok · May 20, 2002

Ahh! You're right. Sorry for doubting. 6000 isn't possible for a Radeon DDR and a 978mhz Tbird, not with 3DMark2001 SE.

I have so many cookies I now have a FAT problem!

phsstpok · May 20, 2002

Sorry, I didn't notice that Metal143 was taunting you. Besides, your real score 3950 is a far cry from the 3000 he was belittling. 3950 is great score for a Radeon DDR when not overclocking!

I now agree. We need to see posted scores from Metal143.

I have also have a friend with Radeon PCI and also a 800mhz P3 system. The video card overheated when we tried to run 3DMark2001. Nasty smell but the card survived. I moved some PCI cards around to give it better ventilation. Can't remember for sure what it finally scored but I think it was 1800. Maybe it was lower. (I think I posted it here somewhere). The Radeon PCI is pretty bad but it was miles ahead of the onboard i810e graphics.

I have so many cookies I now have a FAT problem!Edited by phsstpok on 05/20/02 04:30 PM.

Guest · May 20, 2002

I would like to seize the opportunity of this discussion and ask you guys about a similar problem that I´m facing. I just bought a Athlon XP 1800 System with the following specifications: XP 1800 / 256 DDR2100 (running on CL2 mode) / Soyo Dragon Plus MainBoard / SB Live! / Seagate Barracuda 40 GB and a GeForce 2MX400 and I only got 1500 points on 3d Mark 2001. Is such a low result due to my Graphic Board which is already outdated or there is something wrong with my system? Could it be because of the version of the 3dMark Software? The version I download,as it is shareware, does not run all benchmarks. Furthermore, some of the tests are skipped during the testing process, due to the lack of hardware support (according to the message that I got). ANY IDEAS?

As a remark, I ran Sandra Sissoft 2001 and the results (memory bench, processor bench, etc) were just normal.

phsstpok · May 21, 2002

Only 1500 points, yes, something is wrong. You probably need to load the chipset drivers or at least the AGP driver for that motherboard.

If you have a Via chipset you need the 4-in-1 drivers. 4.38 is the latest official version. Get it <A HREF="http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=2" target="_new">here</A>

I have so many cookies I now have a FAT problem!

metal143 · May 21, 2002

OH MY GOD, Ok guys I will post my scores if is that much of a deal.

And I wasn't trying to Brag about my score, just that it seemed very low to me. Sorry STURM if I offended you, wasn't trying to cause any SHI%.

Here is the Scores RIGHT FROM www.madonion.com

Score 6348

Date 2002-03-27
CPU AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 978 MHz
GPU ATI Radeon 8500
OS Microsoft Windows ME
Res 1024x768 32bit

Score 8610

Date 2002-05-18
CPU AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1620 MHz
GPU ATI Radeon 8500
OS Microsoft Windows ME
Res 1024x768 32bit

Operating System Microsoft Windows ME
DirectX Version 8.1

Mobo Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.
Mobo Model A7V333
AGP Rates (Current/Available) 4x / 1x 2x 4x

CPU AMD Athlon(tm) XP/MP/4 1620 MHz
FSB 135 MHz
Memory 512 MB

Graphics Chipset ATI Radeon 8500
Driver Name RADEON 8500/RADEON 8500LE
Driver Version 4.13.01.9031
Video Memory 64 MB

Program Version 3DMark2001 SE
Resolution 1024x768 32bit
Texture Format Compressed
FSAA Disabled
Z-Buffer Depth 24bit
Frame Buffer Double
Rendering Pipeline D3D Pure Hardware T&L

3DMark Score 8610 3D marks

Game 1 Car Chase - Low Detail 127.5 FPS
Game 1 Car Chase - High Detail 46.3 FPS
Game 2 Dragothic - Low Detail 150.0 FPS
Game 2 Dragothic - High Detail 81.2 FPS
Game 3 Lobby - Low Detail 122.3 FPS
Game 3 Lobby - High Detail 56.0 FPS
Game 4 Nature 47.2 FPS
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 811.2 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 2048.3 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 light) 37.2 MTriangels/s
High Polygon Count (8 lights) 9.7 MTriangels/s
Environment Bump Mapping 114.0 FPS
DOT3 Bump Mapping 87.7 FPS
Vertex Shader 87.8 FPS
Pixel Shader 101.2 FPS
Advanced Pixel Shader 80.0 FPS
Point Sprite 28.0 MSprites/s

There YA GO GUYS, AND WHOEVER SAID THAT I WAS BULL#$%^

READ EM AND WEEP!!!

And for the Rest of you, GRAB ANOTHER BEER and drink 5 for ME

AND YOU CAN CHECK OUT MY SCORES HERE TOO!!!!!!!!!

http://service.madonion.com/servlet/Index?pageid=/orb/projectmanager

Later

IF IT AIN'T BROKE...........DAM IT, MAKE IT FASTER!!!Edited by metal143 on 05/21/02 09:31 AM.

jankphil · May 21, 2002

the thing you have to remmeber is that a lot of people "fake" their scores in madonion. I met one guy who had a 1700+ motherboard with a GeForce 3 Ti200 that scored over 1200. It ended up he really had a dual Athlon 2100+ with a GeForce 4 4600. go figure =\

ChipDeath · May 21, 2002

Well I get 10000+ without any overclocking

But I did spend quite a lot of dough for it....
I have:
Asus A7V333 RAID
Athlon XP 2000+
256Mb Corsair PC2700
LeadTek Geforce 4 Ti4600
OS: Win98SE

I just wish games had graphics as pretty as some of the stuff in the benchmarks.

Ok Then.... Here's a (kind of) unrelated question....
What's the WORST score anyone's ever had (at the default settings) on 3dMark2001SE?

I only asked because I ran it out of curiosity on my MD's new Athlon 1300 Laptop, and it scored something like 353 LOL. Anyone better (?) that one?!

(That "S3 Graphics Twister" stunning!)

Your PC may be quieter, but my PC makes a better hairdryer!

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