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Not that sony had my respect to begin with, but this just pushed it over the edge. For those of you who were watching E3 tonight (in the us) and are going to continue to watch it, you will find out that sony, yes sony, is putting "motion sensors" in thier controllers.... Hmm.. I wonder who else may of done that. Oh emmm maybe... NINTENDO!

When they announced that i almost fell out of my chair. Sony, being the multibillion dollar company that they are, shouldnt have to copy other companys ideas just to sell thiers. Also, sony released thier pricing ranges. 500 dollars and 600 dollars for thier standard and premium packages.

That is a lot of dough for some family to have to fork up so thier kid can be satisfied for a little while until something new and better comes out. Also, sony is going to have an OS running in the background when you play games, not only did they take that from the xbox 360, that is RETARDED! I mean honestly, do you need something running in the background at all times, you could be using those system resources for something useful... like games maybe. Sorry guys, this is more like a blog than it is anything but i figured i would let you in on how i feel about this. Im going to go take a poop.

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hmmm. I thought E3 started tomm. Who cares if they put the best things about xbox360 and Nintendo. I would buy the one that had both features.

Reply to sandmannight
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I've seen it, god, the guy on the stage was just shoving some PS2 and PSP facts when he started his talk, i guess to remind people how great their consoles are.... i got a feeling SONY is losing it,
Imagine playing MGS without the vibration function of the controler... great they added motion sensing functionality, i guess i will be throwing it against hte wall, Sense that SONY

Reply to Artmic

It was more the prepped demos, almost passed off as in-game that annoyed me, and cast doubts on the state of the hardware. I was unimpressed overall, and I think there was a good reason Sony left the good stuff 'till last, lest everyone had a straight go at them walking out the door.

Reply to Aaron McKenna
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The solution to this is to stop concerning yourself about consoles and stick with pc gaming.

Reply to Wolfy
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I do consider myself more of a pc gamer, but i like to include myself in the console world. I agree that not including the vibration in thier controller is a big mistake. Also, im usually all about the best of the best when it comes to hardware. For example, Nvidia invented SLI, ATI invented crossfire. Didnt really bother me. But for a comapny like sony to straight up mimic someone elses technology and expect it to be a something that they are known for. ugh, it discusts me. But i do belive that sony, with the ps3, might not go the way that they want it to. And by that i mean down the toilet.

Reply to Aids

Company A comes out with a good idea. Company B copies the idea.

DAMN THEM FOR IT!!!oneoneeleventy

Seriously, dude, Sony may have a lot of faults: belonging to the music publishing cartel, price-premiums, DRM etc. etc. etc.

But implementing a good idea like that in such a short time-frame, and especially if the implementation is good (something I'm not convinced about) is not something to be scorned at.

Reply to Snorkius
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I understand what your saying, and for the most part you are correct i guess. If a company can take someone elses idea (microsoft) and use it better and make something out of it, then they deserve what they get. But i guess im just stuck on principles, sony is just this buisness giant, you would think that they could come up with "revolutionary" ideas on thier own. But other than that i guess it will be ok in the end. I cant wait to download old snes/sega games on to my revoultio..errr "wii"

Reply to Aids
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everyone is suprised to see Sony use Nintendo "idea".... well how many times has other company used Sony "idea"... for exemple the controllers, don't they all look like the PS1 controllers.... Didn't Nintendo leave the 3 bar design of the 64 for the "normal" 2 bar controllers after they saw Sony do release it?

Also sony was the first ones to add a DVD player functionality to their console, then for some reason when the Xbox came out they had it 2.


Now this is something commun in the industry, being music, console, movies, games... etc. If someone has a good idea.. you can safely bet a different company will take the idea and use it.

And also... what makes all of you think Sony didn't already had plan to put this in the PS3 and that they decided to wait for E3 to talk about it? Just because Nintendo said something before doesn't mean Sony copied them... they just didn't talked about it before


Now i'm not a console fan... at all... but I can't understand why people are so pissed off because of a little add-on to the console

Reply to pswenne
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You can already use an emulator with your PC.



...I think there is a theme running through my posts here....

Reply to Wolfy
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The solution to this is to stop concerning yourself about consoles and stick with pc gaming.



While that may be true, my wife will require that I purchase whatever it takes to play Kingdom Hearts 3 (assuming they make it). So it can't hurt to look to see what's coming down the pipeline.

Reply to Nil

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The solution to this is to stop concerning yourself about consoles and stick with pc gaming.



fo shizzle

Reply to sandmannight
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DVD is a format, not an idea, sony put a dvd player in thier system because DVD players were so expensive at the time in japan. People could just buy a dvd player for x amount of money, or purchase A PS2 for quite a bit cheaper. DVD's are also the only thing you can fit that much information on. So its more of an almost have to thing, not an idea. And sonys controller idea for the ps1, the 64 came out before the ps1 i do belive. But listen, i understand that taking ideas isnt a real big thing, because innovative ideas are acceptable no matter who invented them as long as they work. But im tired of companys, sony in particular taking ideas, manipulating them and saying they are thier "innovative ideas". And the ps3 controller was just recently changed due to all this, you know why? They were sued by an unknown to my knowlege company for the vibration in thier controller to be taken out. So the ps3 does not have a vibrating controller, they needed something else i assume. But whatever, if the ps3 amazes me with its awesomeness then sure ill buy it. I just dont like to see the little guys get pushed around thats all.

Reply to Aids

article date: November 25, 2003
http://sony.gamerfeed.com/gf/news/4815/

Doesn't matter if it was built into the controller, or some other method, but Sony floated the idea of Motion Sensing first.

Besides, Sonys "motion Sensing" controller isnt even as advanced as nintendo's, and will not have all the same freedom as the Wii's controller anyway.

Reply to blader15sk8
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yes you are right about the DVD but you are proving my point on the N64 controllers... since the N64 came out before the PS1. The PS1 came out with the "new, better, more comftable" controller, and so Nintendo when they released the Cube by coincidence decided to use the same design? No they saw that it worked and they adapted it and used it for their new console.

So we saw Nintendo ( and Microsoft) use Sony's idea for the controller in the past. Now Sony is returning the favor.

Now I did say before that I am not a console freak ( actualy I would sell a PS3 to buy a better computer lol) so don't think I'm a PS fanboy. I just don't see why people are making such a big deal out of something so small...

Reply to pswenne
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I defenatly agree with you on selling your stuff for a good pc. But i fail to see how nintendo took sonys idea for a controller. I mean the gamecube came out, and they were looking for a new controller because the n64 controller didnt go over to well with the fans. It was flimsy and didnt have many features that they wanted. The style of the Gcube controller is a more decked out version of a snes if you want to get real technical. Controllers were, up until the Wii came out, sord of generic. But we will see how the Wii controller does when it comes out later on this year. By the way, is anyone going to pay 500/600 for a ps3?

Reply to Aids
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I agree with you man. I dont know about the idea's or anything like that because im sure all the companys toyed with the idea. Its just getting it to work is the hard part. Apparently nintendo has done thier research on this new controller of thiers.

Reply to Aids
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I see what your saying, and i agree. PC's are superior, but this is a Console thread...

Reply to Aids

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translation please



You serious?!
Fo shizzle: slang (obviously)--means the same as "fo sho", or "for sure".
*crizazy's mental dictionary*

advice: never go into the ghetto.
:roll:

Reply to crizazykid2
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That should be advice for everone, not just him. hah

Reply to Aids

i had an inkling but you never know. i prefer to stick to common english as much as possible to avoid confusion. tbh that sort of language makes people sound like they are stupid and can't speak properly. i know you can but some people you ain't too sure if it is deliberate or they just don't know any better.

Reply to strangestranger
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The infamous "netspeak" has always kind of made me mad. I cant stand it.

Reply to Aids

You mean abbreviations or a lack of punctuation? I can stand some abbreviations (as I know the basic ones), but a lack of correct punctuation can make something totally incomprehensible.

Reply to crizazykid2
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I think he was referring to the L33t speach some people use ( or try to) when talking online.

Reply to pswenne

its when ppl talk lik im talking now LOL ur stoopid 2 not get it

Reply to Snorkius

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its when ppl talk lik im talking now LOL ur stoopid 2 not get it



j00 iz 0wnd by me l337 p0st1ng sk1llz.

:roll:

Reply to llama_man

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stupid llama
:roll:



Wot, j00 callin meh st00pid?


You know, maybe one day that'll be accepted English. 8O God help us all.

Reply to llama_man

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stupid llama
:roll:



Wot, j00 callin meh st00pid?


You know, maybe one day that'll be accepted English. 8O God help us all.

LOL.

Reply to crizazykid2
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Do not say Sony copied off Nintendo. They both copied off of Microsoft's sidewinder freestyle pro made on 1998. Please know who copied off who kk?

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass [...] icepr.mspx

Reply to spookz

:roll:

This is not a new concept and MS was by no means the first to make one.

Implementation is what makes or breaks motion-sensing "3d" controls, and implementation is not something that can be faked or copied, mkay?

Reply to Snorkius
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Pfft, I've ben boycotting Sony ever since the rootkit fiasco. There's no respect for me to lose.

Reply to Arucard

On the plus side, Sony is saying that their online service is going to be free Free FREE, totally unreservedly free, to all users. That should help offset some of the price, since those subscriptions to Live Gold will add up over time...

Reply to Goofus_Max

OOOOO GYROS!!! We better inform the authorities because Sony has just defrauded Nintendogs of ground-breaking, state-of-the-art technology!

...

Really, you had to expect this to happen. Motion control is only one of the next steps in the evolution of console gayming. Microsoft would have done the same thing, they just didn't get the memo.

Reply to WRX-Rated

I disagree. I think it's a gimmick, just like the touchscreen on the DS. I'm not saying it won't be fun, but I cant see it being 'The Future'...

Reply to andopolis
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Not that sony had my respect to begin with, but this just pushed it over the edge. For those of you who were watching E3 tonight (in the us) and are going to continue to watch it, you will find out that sony, yes sony, is putting "motion sensors" in thier controllers.... Hmm.. I wonder who else may of done that. Oh emmm maybe... NINTENDO!

When they announced that i almost fell out of my chair. Sony, being the multibillion dollar company that they are, shouldnt have to copy other companys ideas just to sell thiers. Also, sony released thier pricing ranges. 500 dollars and 600 dollars for thier standard and premium packages.

That is a lot of dough for some family to have to fork up so thier kid can be satisfied for a little while until something new and better comes out. Also, sony is going to have an OS running in the background when you play games, not only did they take that from the xbox 360, that is RETARDED! I mean honestly, do you need something running in the background at all times, you could be using those system resources for something useful... like games maybe. Sorry guys, this is more like a blog than it is anything but i figured i would let you in on how i feel about this. Im going to go take a poop.



My biggest beef with the controller isn't that it is a rip-off from Nintendo, i mean you can't really go by that.... i mean if SONY uses CD ROM units in their PS1 and some other company does CD's too, is that a rip off? No, just using the best things possible with your system.

The BIGGEST beef is the rumble is gone from the controller, that is inexcusable !!!!!!!!!!

Stupid SONY.

Reply to Artmic
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I personally don't care if the controler is a nintendo rip-off, I still want a ps3 but the controller mightbe hard to get used to.

Reply to jaylil
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absolutely everyone and everything copies ideas of other things its how the world works. Get over it.
Windows Vista is a copy off all other software joined into one OS.
PS3 will have the best features of the Wii(crap name btw) and 360 as well as way more power and a blue-ray drive worth over a $1000 so it is exelent value if u ask me.
not that i will be buying one(id rather upgrade my computer)
PS3 will simply be the best console ever and will be way better than the Wii.
the Wii cpu will only be around 700mhz which is similar to the original xbox! and its gpu is only an ati 285mhz chip(or something like that)
PS3 4EVER!!!

Reply to Giraffe

lol you sound intelligent lol. a bluray drive sells for $1000. IT DOES NOT COST THAT. sony makes far cheaper so they will use that as bait to get more people to buy the console so they make money off of games. don't be so naive.

Reply to strangestranger

dont want to be bullied into getting a blu-ray player when DVD is just fine for me so sony can go stuff themselves

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