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Let me respond to your note below each of the paragraphs:
On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 06:57:08 -0700, "Peter Pan"
<Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>From your previous post, you had said you had windows 98SE. The first
>edition of win98 did not have usb support at all. The second edition (SE)
>has minimal support, but at that time there was only USB 1.0 (slow and
>limited, newer windows supports 2.0). The original com ports were com1 thru
>com4. USB is totally separate from COM. In that version of windows, there is
>no conversion from USB to serial. As I recall from G's post, he was talking
>about Windows ME, that is TOTALLY different from Win98SE.
Response:
Yep, I use Windows 98SE with some additional software driver which
seems to increase the usefulness of the USB port.
>
>You probably have software that came with your hub that translates the USB
>stuff to com3 (probably, I'm guessing from what you wrote). It may/may not
>work for whatever software you have for the cellphone.
Response:
When I use the v120c (or try to!) I disconnect the 4-port hub and plug
the USB/phone data cable assy. into the single computer USB port.
>
>If I may make a suggestion, before anything else, upgrade to Windows XP!
>Win98SE is about 7 years old, obsolete, and free support for it has been
>dropped, and even paid support from the manufacturer will end soon.
Response:
Call me old fashioned or what ever. I do some consulting in data and
have found from experience that Win98SE is probably the most stable OS
that MS developed. I have seen all sorts of strange quirks in others
especially XP where I observed one person's computer completely re-set
itself back into basic XP OS when "it" thought it found a computer
virus. We had to re-load every bit of software (other than XP) back on
the machine. I really don't like a computer that controls all - I
would like a little input into what it does!
>
>On to your HUB. What version of USB does it support? One of the things that
>was changed between USB 1.0, 1.1, and 2.0 is the max speed of the
>connection.
Response:
Since I don't use the hub when phone connected this doesn't count.
However, I believe it (it is an "inactive: hub which requires external
DC to operate anything connected) is a 1.0 version.
>Many older hubs (usb 1.0 oriented) have a max rate of 230KB, but that speed
>is limited to a max of 115KB per device so one device can't have all the
>bandwidth and lock other devices out.
Response:
What ever the throughput for ver 1.0 is it.
>
>Does your cell phone account support 1X-Minutes of use? (I say 1X cause it
>was Express network, then NationalAccess, but either is 1X, and 1X is a
>whole lot easier to type). While the phone may, it does no good unless your
>account does also.
Response:
Right now I am only interested in using the cable assy (got a real
deal on a close out sale) so I can charge the phone (via the USB
power) while I use it on Verizon INternet access via #777. Of course
this is a real slow speed connection but it works from where we have a
summer camp so I can (slowly) access my email via a browser connect
rather than an email client. But I can stay in touch. I really can't
justify the expense of the higher speed Verizon data connections as I
have high-speed cable connection at my home office and I really don't
travel out-of-town that much!
>
>Now, silly question, you used a serial cable and it worked fine, why do you
>even want to mess with USB?
Response:
See above for reasonoing.
Thanks for the thoughts. I'll keep on "playing" with the drivers, etc.
until I get a combination which works.
John
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>"John" <aljon@no-spam_att.net> wrote in message
>news:qgvp80lrd7htd5h80s2hl5i4rfmq3gml08@4ax.com
>> Peter Pan and Gator,
>>
>> I guess I'm a bit confused regarding your answer. Is this USB/Serial
>> converter program in the computer (part of Windows98SE)? Is it
>> something I can manipulate (change)?
>>
>> But in another note from Gatror, this same converter was indicated to
>> be built-in Windows. I can "see" three COM ports: COM 1 is the
>> external connector, COM 2 seems to be the built-in phone modem and not
>> sure what COM 3 is; perhaps it is the USB/COM conversion you both
>> discussed. Wonder how this works when I plug my two-ScanDisk
>> Mini-Cruzer USB "hard disks" into the USB port (use a 4-port converter
>> only for the mini-Cruzers - plug the phone in as a single input
>> device)
>>
>> I think perhaps from what you describe PP, since I did dial the Moto
>> v120c using Windows Dial-up Networking through a serial to phone cable
>> assy. (CA) plus there is a built-in modem in this IBM ThinkPad 600x,
>> the potential use of anything using the USB port will be tough to
>> configure.
>>
>> I was never able to get the phone to go "higher" (of course I'm only
>> using Verizon VZ Internet access through #777) than 19.2 kB. I had
>> hoped to get higher transfer rate using the USB (there is a "charge"
>> feature in the USB/phone CA, too) CA.
>>
>> I spent a great deal of time discussing the situation with Moto
>> Customer Software Support group (BTW, the gal was located in Argentina
>> - talk about outsourcing!) who recommended the TrueSync upgrade
>> program (I have just about all of the various Moto supplied software
>> but none have worked) but seemed as frustrated as I when it didn't
>> dial.
>>
>> Thanks for your inputs.
>>
>> Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 18:50:31 -0700, "Peter Pan"
>> <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "John" <aljon@no-spam_att.net> wrote in message
>>> news:qqko80lpq8v02vsg4i4tjt7nhbb9qg19mp@4ax.com
>>>> Trying to connect Moto v120c cell phone to Notebook PC running
>>>> Windows 98SE via USB so PC dials through cell to connect to Verizon
>>>> #777 Internet access.
>>>>
>>>> Have not been able to get PC to "see" the Moto cell connected via
>>>> cable assy. to USB. Partial success once but then PC wanted to
>>>> install Motorola v120c "driver" but could not fins in any software
>>>> (have tried various Motorola software including: TrueSync, True
>>>> Sync Plus,TrueSync Upgrade) containing any such driver.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone accomplished this; if so, please advise how you did it?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>
>>> 98SE doesn't usually support the type of USB the phones do. It
>>> mainly sees serial ports. There is a seperate program that converts
>>> the USB ports to look like Com ports. See if you have that or what
>>> may be even easier, see if you can set the phone to Serial/RS 232 at
>>> 115kb
>
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