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did anyone else know anything about this?

<A HREF="http://www.vanshardware.com/articles/2002/03/020317_THG_Slander/020317_THG_Slander.htm" target="_new">->here<-</A>

Edit: seems as though he has been proven an idiot... anyone know why he left, over than say, being an idiot?

:wink: Engineering is the science of making life simple, by making it more complicated.Edited by tnadrev on 03/19/02 01:52 AM.

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Van's hardware is not a trustable site..

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Reply to Grizely1

That should be "trustworthy".

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As most of our readers know, I am a former Senior Editor of THG. I quit in December, 2000 for reasons I have not yet publicly disclosed.

Because he's still trying to think of a reason, maybe?

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Tom's Hardware Guide is guilty of criminal slander.

Good grief, he's like a little kid crying because he can't have his way. When's he going to figure out that he has a worse reputation than THG does, shut down his website, and move on with life?

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Reply to FatBurger

trustable , same thing.

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Reply to Grizely1

why is his reputation bad?

although it seems stupid that his website has more against THG than computer stuff....

he does seem to have proof...

and thanks for telling me it is not a reputable source... but why?

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Reply to tnadrev

Well, whether you like Van Smith or not it's still wrong for THG to change the bylines. He should get credit for the articles he wrote or helped write.

I made you look. But I can't make you see.

Reply to tlaughrey

For one thing, he posts stuff with no proof (Athlon JPEG error, a la GordonFamily.com), and spends most of his time attacking other websites instead of just leaving well enough alone.

tlaughrey, I never said THG did or didn't do anything wrong.

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Reply to FatBurger

if I was Toms Hardware I would do the same thing. I wouldn't want any of my articles with his name on them.

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Reply to Grizely1

The door of slander swings both ways then if else, what Van is doing is not slander in itself. He sounds like a bitter man.

I know in most businesses there are contractual agreements signed by employees concerning intellecual property rights, i.e., at my job I distinctly remember signing an agreement that specified something to the effect, that if I developed technology on the company's premise that the company owns rights to the invention.

So, little do we know of the agreement between Tom and Van to even agree or disagree. I tend to steer clear of bitter people...it is contagious.

Cast your vote with your $, shed your pride with your opinion.

Reply to jc14all

This all would depend on the contract he had with Tom's Hardware.
If you look at the bottom of this page the contents belong to Thomas Pabst.

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Copyright of all documents and scripts belonging to this site by Tom's Guides Publishing LLC 1996 - 2002. Most of the information contained on this site is copyrighted material. It is illegal to copy or redistribute this information in any way without the expressed written consent of Tom's Guides Publishing. This site is NOT responsible for any damage that the information on this site may cause to your system.

Yes, I compared the two legal statements and they are slightly the same, except for the name change of the business, but during the same time period. In a court of law I sincerely believe Tom would win.

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Copyright of all documents and scripts belonging to this site by Thomas Pabst 1996 - 2001. Most of the information contained on this site is copyrighted material. It is illegal to copy or redistribute this information in any way without the expressed written consent of the author. This site is NOT responsible for any damage that the information on this site may cause to your system.

Cast your vote with your $, shed your pride with your opinion.

Reply to jc14all

please delete this post

<A HREF="http://www.geocities.com/scamtron2000/Lochel.html" target="_new"> go to my site </A>

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CLOSE TOPCCI

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Reply to Grizely1

Why? No harm is being done, he's just pointing out a page Van put out so we can all make fun of him :tongue:

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Reply to FatBurger

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I had by far the highest level of output of any editor working there during that time.

Some of my articles had profound industry impact including my exposes on Rambus RDRAM, which disproved performance claims maintained by Rambus and Intel for the Pentium III implementations of this memory technology.

As chief liaison between THG and Intel, I also played a critical role in the recall of the 1.13GHz Pentium III.

Quite a few claims there.

I reckon the guy has a weed up his ass. He's publicly posting "Slander", but not privately seeking some sort of legal deal?

Sour grapes?

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Reply to camieabz

hehe,

but its turning into an Anti Tom thing., TOM RULES TEH CORN!!!~

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Reply to Grizely1

Van thinks very highly of himself, as you pointed out.

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Reply to FatBurger

im surprised no one has hacked his site

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Reply to Grizely1

He couldn't prove any of those claims even if he tried. So I can't figure out why he's bothering. Must be a

"My site's better than their site"

kinda gripe.

I wonder if he also gripes about how his ("We parted for reasons which I'm not prepared to disclose" ) leaving THG, gave him the chance to create his own site. Did he get sacked?

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Reply to camieabz

Why does he even bother? It's not like we're going to be pursuaded by his talent to deceive.

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Reply to Grizely1

If a person's work is good, then the work speaks for the person. If a person has to speak for their work, then their work speaks nothing for the person, because the person has already robbed themself and spoiled the work. Something like, "pride goes before a fall."

Cast your vote with your $, shed your pride with your opinion.

Reply to jc14all

Exactly.

Saying less says more.

That's why I don't post too much on THGC. :lol:

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Reply to camieabz

Bump bump!
You made a funny post! LOL :lol:

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Reply to zpyrd

Interesting . . . I have searched for the files he speaks of, and it seems that they are nowhere to be found. Since I am here more for the community than the articles, I do not have any information concerning the possibility of their original existence.

Whether or not "slander" has been committed, there is no "evidence" currently in existence except for what the plaintiff has stated. This results in the age-old "My Word Against Yours" type of argument. In the court of public opinion, the evidence considered in these types of cases are usually past discretions/indiscretions. In this case, this information is "out there" for everyone to see. And, as lawyers love to say, "The evidence will show . . . "

I am sure that most of you would agree with me when I say that sometimes, for the sake of valuable diskspace, there exists the need to purge information which may now be outdated, especially when such information is stated by individuals which have shown tendencies towards embellishment and self-gratification.

But then again, I wouldn't know about that, would I?

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Reply to VulcanSoulPatch

Also, companies aren't in the habit of keeping non-memorabilea-type documents relating to ex-employees unless law requires them to do so.

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Reply to camieabz

Hah, never thought of that...

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Reply to Grizely1

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Well, whether you like Van Smith or not it's still wrong for THG to change the bylines.

Why? Van was in the employ of THG at the time that he wrote that article, and as such, it is the intellectual property of Tom Pabst ie Tom's Hardware Guide.

Hello Van, it happens all the time; welcome to white-collar work!!!!

Oh, which brings up a point about the integrity of Mr. Smith. Isn't he the one that ran more than one article about the CD Key generator for Windows/Office/Visio XP and stated that he successfully registered and activated the software using these pirated codes? Sounds like piracy to me, what do you think?

Did Weird Al write "It's all about the Pentiums" about me?

Reply to BGates2B

Body blow, body blow....oof! that was a low one. :tongue:

Cast your vote with your $, shed your pride with your opinion.

Reply to jc14all

ccareful

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Reply to Grizely1

If he owns the software, I wouldn't consider it unethical to test and see whether a key generator works.

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Reply to FatBurger

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If he owns the software, I wouldn't consider it unethical to test and see whether a key generator works.

Ah, FatBurger, FatBurger, FatBurger.....

Have you not read your EULA from Microsoft. You don't OWN THE SOFTWARE, you just OWN THE LICENSE to use the software

gotcha :wink:

Did Weird Al write "It's all about the Pentiums" about me?

Reply to BGates2B

Different wording, my opinion still applies.

You're correct, though. It's just a license, not the software itself (as opposed to a CD, for instance).

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Reply to FatBurger

so you buy the license and use a different one.

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Reply to Grizely1

As far as I'm concerned I payed for the software. I own the software.

I did not sit a test, nor submit any personal details to receive said license. Nor do I need the license to operate my system. Microsoft never read my small print. Heh Heh! [evil]

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Reply to camieabz

lol. we should have an evil smiley face. FReDI!!!!

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Reply to Grizely1

I also want a sarcastic one :frown:

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Reply to FatBurger

yeah

lets make new similey faces and then fredi can put tehm in

we make animated gif ones too!

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Reply to Grizely1

I've got a couple of evil ones, I can email them to you if you want to recolor them to match the current ones?

If you don't buy Windows, then the terrorists have already won! - Microsoft

Reply to FatBurger

hmm... maybe we need a color change. i have a whole ton of animated gif ones, they're awsome. i could post an example webpage with them on it if you want

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