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Anonymous
April 27, 2004 2:59:09 AM

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Hi,

As I mentioned earlier, I asked a sales person at the store whether I would
be able to access the express network with my America's Choice Family Plan
using only my airtime as my only charge. He said yes and all I need is a
data cable to do so.

Then I called customer service at Verizon and talked to some woman. She told
me the exact same thing. Then some data specialist calls back and says that
what the woman said is totally bogus. He said that only Quick2Net is for
airtime only, while Express Network reguires a seperate plan.

Then I said some people are able to access it anyway. He answered saying it
is a bug with picture messaging and if I do connect to the express network
anyway that I would be charged for it 25 cents a minute. In a serious voice
too, like he was trying to scare me.

Reading how much picture messaging costs it shows only 25 cents per picture
plus airtime if you don't have a picture messaging plan. Now considering
that being the case I think the guy is just trying to get more money for
Verizon with all of the NationalAccess plans.

Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American Choice plan
and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture messaging so they
may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.

Nite Rider
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 2:59:10 AM

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"Nite Rider" <niteriderxp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:p nijc.44714$aQ6.2907318@attbi_s51
> Can anyone else confirm this, I smell Verizon techs maybe posting

Not sure who you meant, but you can check the thousands of users on the
forums at http://www.irv2.com/ (RV Related)
or the mobile phone forums at http://www.howardforums.com (cell phone
related/WAP usable)

As for tech, not really, I am a computer person currently between contracts
(okay, temp unemployed) and live and travel in my RV between contracts. My
friend is a computer tech/salesperson that just added cell phone stuff to
his store along with computers. Since he is located in a rural area outside
of Spokane, there are lots of people that want to connect cell phones to
computers, my RV'ng (and connecting my cell phone to my computer) is a
perfect match.
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 2:59:10 AM

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"Nite Rider" <niteriderxp@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American Choice plan
>and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture messaging so they
>may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.

I have America's Choice with NA-MOU. Quick 2 Net works for me, Express
Network gives an authentication error.



==
Jack Hamilton
jfh@acm.org

==
In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted comfort and security.
And in the end, they lost it all - freedom, comfort and security.
Edward Gibbons
Related resources
April 27, 2004 3:07:15 AM

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"Jack Hamilton" <jfh@acm.org> wrote in message
news:vngr801nsfmm9doj9llmf3r5rervn3alsm@4ax.com...
> "Nite Rider" <niteriderxp@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American Choice
plan
> >and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture messaging so they
> >may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.
>
> I have America's Choice with NA-MOU. Quick 2 Net works for me, Express
> Network gives an authentication error.
>
>

Okay I'm getting confused by all of these acronyms...

I assume that:
EN-MOU = Express Network Minutes of Use
NA-MOU = National Access Minutes of Use.

What is the difference between National Access and Express Network? Verizon
just told me National Access costs either $45 on a PDA or $80 on a laptop
for unlimited access to the Express Network. (They didn't know what Minutes
of Use was apparently.) But, they said National Access won't work in
non-Express-Network areas, so I would need Quick2Net service in the Extended
Network areas. ($35 /month for 150 minutes--don't think so!)

-Jeff
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 4:05:27 AM

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Still going strong in North Carolina. Three weeks ago something on my
account got messed up and verizon wireless data support had to 'reset my
account'. In that interval I could connect but not authenticate with
either Q2N or EN-MOU. Last year the entire area's data services went
down until I happened to notice and called... they don't seem to
proactivly moniter their switches/routers/etc. It took a 3rd/4th level
tech calling somebody else and a couple hours to fix it.

Josh

Ed wrote:

> As of today, my EN-MOU on Americas Choice was disconnected. I've
> hardly used it recently but last week I ran up 25 minutes of data
> time (7135 as a modem). Went to use it again today and it no longer
> worked. Forgot the error response but it seemed kind of obvious what
> was up. Q2N worked fine. I've had EN-MOU on AC for just about a year.
> Maybe it's just the local system (N.NJ) being down but somehow I doubt
> it. I tried all day with no luck trying to just use Snappermail to
> POP my email directly from my 7135. If it still doesn't work tomorrow
> I'll assume the free ride is finally over.
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 7:41:43 AM

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NationalAccess is the Express Network just with another name.

I am really confused right now.

All I know is that Get It Now runs on Express Network when I access it. I
know this because I downloaded a 200KB free demo program in 30sec. That is
about 6KB/s compared to Quick2Net which is about 1KB/s in best conditions.

So obviously the phone can get online with Express Network. The question is
whether it can do so with my laptop. I ordered a cable from rpiwireless.com
and will check when I get it. It would be a waste of $40 if I won't be able
to use it with the Express Network.

Though there have been rumors going around of some kind of audit of people
using the Express Network without having a National Access plan. Which I
don't, I only have America's Choice. I am on the plan with my family so they
would kill me if a hella expensive bill came or our service was terminated.

"Jack Hamilton" <jfh@acm.org> wrote in message
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> "Nite Rider" <niteriderxp@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American Choice
plan
> >and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture messaging so they
> >may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.
>
> I have America's Choice with NA-MOU. Quick 2 Net works for me, Express
> Network gives an authentication error.
>
>
>
> ==
> Jack Hamilton
> jfh@acm.org
>
> ==
> In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted comfort and
security.
> And in the end, they lost it all - freedom, comfort and security.
> Edward Gibbons
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 8:13:28 AM

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What plan do you have Josh? We are talking about the America's Choice plan,
if you have anything else things may be different.

Nite Rider
"Josh Steinhurst" <josh.spam.news@steinhurst.FakeMeat.net> wrote in message
news:408ddc08$1@news.unc.edu...
> Still going strong in North Carolina. Three weeks ago something on my
> account got messed up and verizon wireless data support had to 'reset my
> account'. In that interval I could connect but not authenticate with
> either Q2N or EN-MOU. Last year the entire area's data services went
> down until I happened to notice and called... they don't seem to
> proactivly moniter their switches/routers/etc. It took a 3rd/4th level
> tech calling somebody else and a couple hours to fix it.
>
> Josh
>
> Ed wrote:
>
> > As of today, my EN-MOU on Americas Choice was disconnected. I've
> > hardly used it recently but last week I ran up 25 minutes of data
> > time (7135 as a modem). Went to use it again today and it no longer
> > worked. Forgot the error response but it seemed kind of obvious what
> > was up. Q2N worked fine. I've had EN-MOU on AC for just about a year.
> > Maybe it's just the local system (N.NJ) being down but somehow I doubt
> > it. I tried all day with no luck trying to just use Snappermail to
> > POP my email directly from my 7135. If it still doesn't work tomorrow
> > I'll assume the free ride is finally over.
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 8:13:29 AM

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America's Choice

Nite Rider wrote:

> What plan do you have Josh? We are talking about the America's Choice plan,
> if you have anything else things may be different.
April 27, 2004 9:21:31 AM

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Nite Rider wrote:
> Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American Choice plan
> and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture messaging so they
> may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.
>
> Nite Rider

Yes, I have been using Express Network with a 300 minute America's
Choice Plan for almost a year now. Used it just yesterday with my
laptop. No additional charges other than minutes of use if during prime
time.

Don in Tracy, Calif.
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 9:21:32 AM

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"Don" <rver123@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:408DEDE7.2E91@mindspring.com
> Nite Rider wrote:
>> Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American
>> Choice plan and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture
>> messaging so they may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.
>>
>> Nite Rider
>
> Yes, I have been using Express Network with a 300 minute America's
> Choice Plan for almost a year now. Used it just yesterday with my
> laptop. No additional charges other than minutes of use if during
> prime time.
>
> Don in Tracy, Calif.

Yes, I'm on AC 300 + NA-MOU, have had it for about a year. I am online using
it right now and since it's after 9PM, it comes out of my free nights
bucket.
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 9:21:32 AM

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Don <rver123@mindspring.com> wrote:

>Nite Rider wrote:
>> Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American Choice plan
>> and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture messaging so they
>> may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.
>>
>> Nite Rider
>
>Yes, I have been using Express Network with a 300 minute America's
>Choice Plan for almost a year now. Used it just yesterday with my
>laptop. No additional charges other than minutes of use if during prime
>time.
>
>Don in Tracy, Calif.

And yet it doesn't work for me in Sacramento. The userid and password
are the only differences in setup, right? (port speed would affect the
data transfer speed, but shouldn't matter for making the connection - I
have it set to 115200, which is the highest speed supported by my
Clie.).



==
Jack Hamilton
jfh@acm.org

==
In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted comfort and security.
And in the end, they lost it all - freedom, comfort and security.
Edward Gibbons
April 27, 2004 9:21:33 AM

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Jack Hamilton wrote:
>
> And yet it doesn't work for me in Sacramento. The userid and password
> are the only differences in setup, right? (port speed would affect
> the data transfer speed, but shouldn't matter for making the
> connection - I have it set to 115200, which is the highest speed
> supported by my
> Clie.).
>
There is usually a change in the initialization string for the modem, or
else a change in the "drivers" (actually an information file) that you
choose when you set up the modem port on your laptop. At least that is the
way it works for my Nokia 3589i, but the exact initialization string is
different for each phone; check the documentation for your phone.
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 9:21:33 AM

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"Jack Hamilton" <jfh@acm.org> wrote in message
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>
> And yet it doesn't work for me in Sacramento. The userid and password
> are the only differences in setup, right? (port speed would affect
> the data transfer speed, but shouldn't matter for making the
> connection - I have it set to 115200, which is the highest speed
> supported by my
> Clie.).
>
>
>
> ==
> Jack Hamilton
> jfh@acm.org
>
> ==
> In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted comfort and
> security. And in the end, they lost it all - freedom, comfort and
> security. Edward Gibbons

Are you using serial or USB? And what type of phone and what is it set at
(RS232 or USB). When I switched from serial/qwk2net, to a new laptop only
with USB, I had change the phone to USB and my port speed to 230K
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 11:29:38 AM

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Well my plan doesn't say NA-MOU anywhere (do yours say anything anywhere)
but I am sure the phone has it as Get It Now works fast.
Does Get It Now use the same username and password as my laptop would use to
access the internet. It may be the case in which Get It Now uses a different
login and that the computer login doesn't work in reality.

I guess I just have to wait for the cable. I really doubt anyone would
enable NA-MOU for me as the techs are real ***holes at Verizon. Or maybe I
just got sales instead of a tech, but the guy knew what he was talking about
so I doubt it. See verizon sales people are not always dumb, no offense to
anyone who is.

The main thing is that my plan is around two years old, but I upgraded
myself to an audiovox CDM8900 without changing the plan a bit. Right now I
have free roaming anywhere in the U.S. regardless of whether it says roaming
or not. And night minutes start at 8:00pm. Such a plan no longer exists. It
is America's Choice, just old.

Nite Rider

"Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:c6kti8$cqrfq$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de...
> "Don" <rver123@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:408DEDE7.2E91@mindspring.com
> > Nite Rider wrote:
> >> Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American
> >> Choice plan and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture
> >> messaging so they may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.
> >>
> >> Nite Rider
> >
> > Yes, I have been using Express Network with a 300 minute America's
> > Choice Plan for almost a year now. Used it just yesterday with my
> > laptop. No additional charges other than minutes of use if during
> > prime time.
> >
> > Don in Tracy, Calif.
>
> Yes, I'm on AC 300 + NA-MOU, have had it for about a year. I am online
using
> it right now and since it's after 9PM, it comes out of my free nights
> bucket.
>
>
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 11:58:05 AM

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You do realize you need a phone or modem capable of 1x, national access, 3G,
or express network.
If your phone can't support it, heck it doesn't matter what verizon offers,
your phone won't connect if it doesn't understand it.


Here are the instructions for an LG phone, mod to your needs :
Verizon 3G/1X Data/Express Network
a.. Select the modem. Ideally you want the serial connection to the phone
to operate at 230400 otherwise you will suffer lower throughput
b.. The phone number is #777 (be sure to include the pound sign)
c.. The username is yourphonenumber@vzw3g.com (For example
5551234567@vzw3g.com)
d.. The password is vzw

Verizon Quick To Net/QNC
a.. Select the modem. There are no performance gains for the serial
connection to the phone being faster than 19200
b.. You should ensure there is a modem initialisation string of AT$QCMDR=2
in the modem configuration. (In Windows you place this by going to the modem
in the Control Panel and then Advanced, Extra Settings. Leave off the AT
bit - ie you should put $QCMDR=2 in the text box)
c.. Phone number is #777 (be sure to include the pound sign)
d.. Username is qnc
e.. Password is qnc

Nite Rider

"Jack Hamilton" <jfh@acm.org> wrote in message
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> Don <rver123@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> >Nite Rider wrote:
> >> Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American Choice
plan
> >> and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture messaging so
they
> >> may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.
> >>
> >> Nite Rider
> >
> >Yes, I have been using Express Network with a 300 minute America's
> >Choice Plan for almost a year now. Used it just yesterday with my
> >laptop. No additional charges other than minutes of use if during prime
> >time.
> >
> >Don in Tracy, Calif.
>
> And yet it doesn't work for me in Sacramento. The userid and password
> are the only differences in setup, right? (port speed would affect the
> data transfer speed, but shouldn't matter for making the connection - I
> have it set to 115200, which is the highest speed supported by my
> Clie.).
>
>
>
> ==
> Jack Hamilton
> jfh@acm.org
>
> ==
> In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted comfort and
security.
> And in the end, they lost it all - freedom, comfort and security.
> Edward Gibbons
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 12:16:09 PM

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I thought the login was the thing that you changed, that is what everyone
else says.

By the way where do you find NA-MOU listed on your bill or online.

Nite Rider
"Jim" <NOSPAM_AT_rcn.com> wrote in message
news:408e15b4$0$28897$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
> Jack Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > And yet it doesn't work for me in Sacramento. The userid and password
> > are the only differences in setup, right? (port speed would affect
> > the data transfer speed, but shouldn't matter for making the
> > connection - I have it set to 115200, which is the highest speed
> > supported by my
> > Clie.).
> >
> There is usually a change in the initialization string for the modem, or
> else a change in the "drivers" (actually an information file) that you
> choose when you set up the modem port on your laptop. At least that is
the
> way it works for my Nokia 3589i, but the exact initialization string is
> different for each phone; check the documentation for your phone.
>
>
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 12:16:10 PM

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Q1 > I thought the login was the thing that you changed, that is what
> everyone else says.

In most cases you have to change much more than just a login (depends on the
phone but sometimes driver speed, connection type, init string, and again
depending on the phone, sometimes switch between Communication type, can be
either RS 232 or USB

Q2 > By the way where do you find NA-MOU listed on your bill or online.

You don't. NA-MOU is a description of the effect, not a plan or option name,
and in any case, that option is not listed on the website at all.

As to your bill, it will be listed as an active option.

Login to vserv, (or look at your paper bill if you get one)
After you login in, click on statements, then on service profile. You will
see something like this (way better looking, but converted to text for
posting here)

Current Plan - 043683 AMERICA'S CHOICE 400 PEAK UNL N&W 1000 MTM $39.99 2Y
0902
Monthly Access Monthly Allowance Minutes Additional Per Minute Charge
39.99 400 general .45 peak .45 Off-Peak
Active Additional Services:
Call Delivery - Voice Mail - IQ Service Package - CDMA Digital W/Txt Msg -
CallerID - Message Waiting
Ind - New Every Two - Nat Mob to Mob -1000 Mins - National Access
Your Promotional Details Start Date
Unlimited Night & Weekend Minute Allowance Per Month - 2yr Contract
08/20/03

============================
You see "National Access" listed under "Active Additional Services", that
shows that you have the active option to use National Access on a Minutes of
Use basis (that's essentially where the term NA-MOU comes from).

"Nite Rider" <niteriderxp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:D Fojc.46120$w96.4279006@attbi_s54
> I thought the login was the thing that you changed, that is what
> everyone else says.
>
> By the way where do you find NA-MOU listed on your bill or online.
>
> Nite Rider
> "Jim" <NOSPAM_AT_rcn.com> wrote in message
> news:408e15b4$0$28897$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
>> Jack Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> And yet it doesn't work for me in Sacramento. The userid and
>>> password are the only differences in setup, right? (port speed
>>> would affect the data transfer speed, but shouldn't matter for
>>> making the connection - I have it set to 115200, which is the
>>> highest speed supported by my
>>> Clie.).
>>>
>> There is usually a change in the initialization string for the
>> modem, or else a change in the "drivers" (actually an information
>> file) that you choose when you set up the modem port on your laptop.
>> At least that is the way it works for my Nokia 3589i, but the exact
>> initialization string is different for each phone; check the
>> documentation for your phone.
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 12:32:48 PM

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One other note: It's a long story, but I had an America's Choice plan, and
switched to a local plan. In this case, the "National Access" feature stayed
on my account, even though this feature doesn't appear to be normally
available on local plans (well actually, even that is unclear).

Anyway, for odd reasons I actually switched back to AC and the feature of
course stayed. In any event it is possible to have the feature on a local
plan, but I doubt it is added automatically to those like it is for AC
users.

-Dan
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 3:49:11 PM

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The dr offers that "yes", your plan will say National Access if you have it.
Contact customer service and ask that they "confirm" that you have the
enhanced services code NA-MOU, or go on-line to my account.

The rest of the story: Thought I might see the term national access if I
went to my-account, on-line. And yes, National Access was there. On the
on-line "printer friendly version" of your statement find:
Your Service Profile
Promotional Details
Enhanced Services: Description said (in part)
....Natl IN-Network/Nghts & Wknds , Unltd Night & Weekend Minutes,
Wireless Phone Protection, NationalAccess <<<---------NATIONAL ACCESS
Natl IN-Network/Nghts & Wknds...

The Dr.

"Nite Rider" <niteriderxp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CZnjc.46404$_L6.3881618@attbi_s53...
> Well my plan doesn't say NA-MOU anywhere (do yours say anything anywhere)
<snip>
> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:c6kti8$cqrfq$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > "Don" <rver123@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > news:408DEDE7.2E91@mindspring.com
> > > Nite Rider wrote:
<snip>
> > > Yes, I have been using Express Network with a 300 minute America's
> > > Choice Plan for almost a year now. Used it just yesterday with my
> > > laptop. No additional charges other than minutes of use if during
> > > prime time.
> > it right now and since it's after 9PM, it comes out of my free nights
> > bucket.
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 3:56:30 PM

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The dr recalls: customer service told me a few times that if you tether a
phone to a laptop, as a "minimum" you should have purchased the mobile
office package; and then added the mobile web optional services to your
plan: Mobile Web by VZW with MSNĀ® $4.99/month.

And yes, I know that many people don't pay anything extra, and that the
description of Mobile Web below doesn't say anything about tether of
computer to phone. Plans change, rules change, profit incentives change: go
figure?

"Mobile Web by VZW with MSNĀ®
Read and send e-mails, exchange instant messages and view your favorite web
content on your wireless phone. Mobile Web even provides access to a
personalized Calendar and Address Book. The service is offered for an
additional monthly access charge, plus airtime and other applicable charges"

The dr. (follow-up)

"Nite Rider" <niteriderxp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:CZnjc.46404$_L6.3881618@attbi_s53...
> Well my plan doesn't say NA-MOU anywhere (do yours say anything anywhere)
<snip>
> > > Yes, I have been using Express Network with a 300 minute America's
> > > Choice Plan for almost a year now. Used it just yesterday with my
> > > laptop. No additional charges other than minutes of use if during
> > > prime time.
> > >
> > > Don in Tracy, Calif.
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 4:12:28 PM

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The dr tried to establish when one might figure out that you need an extra
feature/service as part of your plan to get national access So I went
on-line and started a new self-service activation.
Calling Plans
America's Choice 500 minute plan (optional service called mobile web,
but says nothing about laptop use)
Phones LG6000, 2 yr contract hummm mobile office kit (with the cable
I need phone<=>laptop
Mobile Office Kit "Everything ...to get your laptop onto
NationalAccess network...Quick 2 Net"

Not clarity, but a good chance that everybody is wrong and yet everybody is
right, depending upon when you signed up for your plan or promotion. This
is a mink hole: to easy to get into and stay there. We all know that this
can be, is, was, and may continue to be confusing. Try and get it at the
lowest possible price, and verizon always has the last and final say.

<snip>

> "Nite Rider" <niteriderxp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:CZnjc.46404$_L6.3881618@attbi_s53...
> > Well my plan doesn't say NA-MOU anywhere (do yours say anything
anywhere)
> <snip>
> > > > Yes, I have been using Express Network with a 300 minute America's
> > > > Choice Plan for almost a year now. Used it just yesterday with my
> > > > laptop. No additional charges other than minutes of use if during
> > > > prime time.
> > > >
> > > > Don in Tracy, Calif.
April 27, 2004 4:16:09 PM

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I retract my message copied below. I guess it was just a network
glitch. As of this A.M. EN-MOU is again working. :) 

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 01:03:42 GMT, Ed <nobodyspecial@comcast.net>
wrote:

>As of today, my EN-MOU on Americas Choice was disconnected. I've
>hardly used it recently but last week I ran up 25 minutes of data
>time (7135 as a modem). Went to use it again today and it no longer
>worked. Forgot the error response but it seemed kind of obvious what
>was up. Q2N worked fine. I've had EN-MOU on AC for just about a year.
>Maybe it's just the local system (N.NJ) being down but somehow I doubt
>it. I tried all day with no luck trying to just use Snappermail to
>POP my email directly from my 7135. If it still doesn't work tomorrow
>I'll assume the free ride is finally over.
>
Anonymous
April 27, 2004 6:10:29 PM

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It will usually work just fine.....if VZW signs you up to the official
broadband plan. they make more money. broadband is part of most of the
plans in order for the picture phone plans to work. But you won't be able
to access the net via phone only unless you order MobilWeb...
"Nite Rider" <niteriderxp@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Zugjc.43402$IW1.2143186@attbi_s52...
> Hi,
>
> As I mentioned earlier, I asked a sales person at the store whether I
would
> be able to access the express network with my America's Choice Family Plan
> using only my airtime as my only charge. He said yes and all I need is a
> data cable to do so.
>
> Then I called customer service at Verizon and talked to some woman. She
told
> me the exact same thing. Then some data specialist calls back and says
that
> what the woman said is totally bogus. He said that only Quick2Net is for
> airtime only, while Express Network reguires a seperate plan.
>
> Then I said some people are able to access it anyway. He answered saying
it
> is a bug with picture messaging and if I do connect to the express network
> anyway that I would be charged for it 25 cents a minute. In a serious
voice
> too, like he was trying to scare me.
>
> Reading how much picture messaging costs it shows only 25 cents per
picture
> plus airtime if you don't have a picture messaging plan. Now considering
> that being the case I think the guy is just trying to get more money for
> Verizon with all of the NationalAccess plans.
>
> Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American Choice
plan
> and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture messaging so they
> may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.
>
> Nite Rider
>
>
>
Anonymous
April 28, 2004 1:34:19 AM

Archived from groups: alt.cellular.verizon (More info?)

Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Nite Rider said:

; Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American Choice plan
; and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture messaging so they
; may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.

Funny you should ask, as I just finished dealing with that very
screw-up...

My hardware: Kyocera 7135 PalmOS smartphone. 1xRTT ExpressNetwork/
NationalAccess capable, native Internet support with the appropriate
software installed and service plan.

I was on a NationalAccess plan, as that was the only way to get the
"real" net without an additional $25/month rider for only 5M of data.
I recently switched to an America's Choice so I can bundle my cellular
and eventual Verizon landline service into a single bill. Ever since,
I have been UNABLE to use the ExpressNetwork.

When I asked about switching to the AC plan, I asked several times and
was assured that I would be able to retain my data use, under
"NationalAccess-Minutes Of Use". Two days ago, I'm told that even
though NA-MOU is on my plan, I need to add Mobil Web at $5/month to do
this. It still does not work. I can now use the WAP browser to access
MSN content, but not my own sites and bookmarks. If I want my own WAP
enabled bookmarks, I need to actually sign up for a MSN Passport
account, and keep my bookmarks online. If I want to use email, I have
to use Hotmail's WAP interface.

I want to use my own stuff. I want to be able to tether the phone to
my laptop and use my own full-size applications.

The only way I can do this without spending more than it's worth is to
change back to a NationalAccess plan.

If wasn't using a PDA/Phone combo, the America's Choice/Mobile Web
setup would probably suffice.

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Anonymous
April 28, 2004 1:11:53 PM

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Hi again,

Well I checked my bill on my new cell phone and found that National
Access with Msg-Pix Basic is enabled. So I guess once I get the cable
I'll be surfing the net.

In the meantime my other phones in the familyshare plan have roamer
toll and home toll features, while the new phone does not. What do
these two things do anyway.

Nite Rider

Jeffrey Kaplan <acv@gordol.org> wrote in message news:<nl1u805nvjjn6iuqtce4fmp5p5m0t0mn56@news20.forteinc.com>...
> Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Nite Rider said:
>
> ; Have any of you been using the Express Network with an American Choice plan
> ; and if so what charges do you get? I don't have picture messaging so they
> ; may charge me 25 cents per call I guess.
>
> Funny you should ask, as I just finished dealing with that very
> screw-up...
>
> My hardware: Kyocera 7135 PalmOS smartphone. 1xRTT ExpressNetwork/
> NationalAccess capable, native Internet support with the appropriate
> software installed and service plan.
>
> I was on a NationalAccess plan, as that was the only way to get the
> "real" net without an additional $25/month rider for only 5M of data.
> I recently switched to an America's Choice so I can bundle my cellular
> and eventual Verizon landline service into a single bill. Ever since,
> I have been UNABLE to use the ExpressNetwork.
>
> When I asked about switching to the AC plan, I asked several times and
> was assured that I would be able to retain my data use, under
> "NationalAccess-Minutes Of Use". Two days ago, I'm told that even
> though NA-MOU is on my plan, I need to add Mobil Web at $5/month to do
> this. It still does not work. I can now use the WAP browser to access
> MSN content, but not my own sites and bookmarks. If I want my own WAP
> enabled bookmarks, I need to actually sign up for a MSN Passport
> account, and keep my bookmarks online. If I want to use email, I have
> to use Hotmail's WAP interface.
>
> I want to use my own stuff. I want to be able to tether the phone to
> my laptop and use my own full-size applications.
>
> The only way I can do this without spending more than it's worth is to
> change back to a NationalAccess plan.
>
> If wasn't using a PDA/Phone combo, the America's Choice/Mobile Web
> setup would probably suffice.
Anonymous
April 28, 2004 3:32:31 PM

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Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Dr.wireMORE said:

; The dr suggests: add the mobile web feature: $4.99/mo, and you should get
; the results you were hoping for given your phone has the 1x.

BTDT. Either it was added wrong or it doesn't support what I want.
See my other message in this thread: Message-ID:
<nl1u805nvjjn6iuqtce4fmp5p5m0t0mn56@news20.forteinc.com>

I'm now back on a NationalAccess plan and my data is working. I'm
going to re-visit the America's Choice/NA-MOU thing on my next billing
recycle.

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