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October 8, 2006 4:44:10 AM

For all you bored nerds sitting at home on the computer who have read and agreed with this retard Aaron McKenna's opinions on female gaming, I'd like to give you another point of view:

1. Female Gaming is not a male fantasy gone wild...atleast not for females. They are females playing a game becasue it is fun. Simple as that. Little girls dont wake up one day saying, "I think I'm going to play counter-strike and see what I can get out of it for free". It happens the same way it does for all the guys who play, they just enjoy it.

2. Not all girl gamers show skin for attention. The suicide girls are models and they get alot of attention becasue of that. All you boys can talk as bad about them as you'd like but you still know who they are. You do make them quite popular. As upsetting as it is that women like this should be getting sponsorships is to you, it is much more upsetting to we profesional female gamers who dont show skin for attention. We practice and put just as much hard work into our teams as any male team does if not more. But unfortunatly men like you overlook us-mostly because we're not naked-and make false assumptions about all female gamers.

3. If you're still upset about the sponsorship thing look at it this way. Female gamers attract alot of attention ( thanks to you :wink: ) and companies see that and they know that if they sposnor this team they can get their name out there. We cant help the fact that you creepy little guys just cant seem to take your eyes off and we're not going to turn down a respectable company offering to cover our lanning fees, so long as they dont ask for anything inapropriate in return.

4. You dont need to find a female team that can compete with the top male teams of any game. As a female I admit that so far, in counter-strike atleast, I havent seen a female team that would be able to win a match against Complexity or Team-3D, but I have seen teams that can compete with any CAL Main team. Interestingly, about 99% of the males who complain about female gaming are the ones that lose scrims to female teams by more than 10 rounds and Im sure most females will agree with that.

So if you still disagree with female gaming so much then why dont you do yourself a favor and stop visiting our websites, and idling our channels on irc, and trying to find our myspaces so you can look at how pretty we are? Becasue you cant, because you're a loser, with no life, and so long as your reading forums and looking at pictures of all the talented females that you are so jealous of, you're not going to talk to any real girls. So yea, thanks for the support losers and making female gaming more popular than its ever been 8)

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October 8, 2006 5:05:11 AM

Ummm... interesting.
Not to be rude, but your topic "Men Complain too Much", is written by a woman, who is, through out the entire article complaining... Does anyone else find that even slightly humorous? :lol: 

However, I do agree with a lot of your points.
October 8, 2006 8:39:15 PM

Its not complaining at all. Its offering another point of veiw thats often overlooked.
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October 9, 2006 12:12:32 PM

I think it's game publishers who sometimes complain too much. If they want more people and perhaps especially women to be interested in computer games, they need to start taking risks and finance games with innovative game play!

There are many men and women who are not gamers, but seem to have a very positive first impression when looking at games (or game footage) like Oblivion, Far Cry and Crysis because of the incredible graphics. Unfortunately, to this day the most graphically amazing worlds have been mainly created for games in which you shoot and kill people or monsters. For many people very unfamiliar with computer games these games have very narrowed and unpleasant game play. Once these people see what these games are about, they become disappointed and don't want to see more of the game. Of course, the current trend is not strange because FPS shooter is a proven genre with less risk for the game company and especially the publisher. But in the end more people could be buying and playing a game like Oblivion, Far Cry or Crysis if it was some kind of... let's say, a challenging FPS bird or animal RPG/Simulator with astonishing graphics and physics rather than another FPS shooter or "die, die!" RPG.

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... now that I thought of it, a bird simulator could be quite interesting even for hard-core gamers. :D  You'd need to adapt to different wind currents when flying, take care of your plumage, fly around to hunt for food and scout for predators, train to try to make new speed and altitude records, maybe find another bird and build a nest or compete with rival birds. This could even be placed in a fantasy MMORPG. It'd be lot of fun if one guy was playing a farmer trying to grow some crops and protect it from different birds and animals, while some other player would be a miserable crow or sparrow trying to find food, survive hunters and poop on noobs. :lol:  Then he or she would develop into an epic super nimble sparrow with guts of steel, moves like thund3r, able to reach legendary heavenly plains extremely high above, fighting epic evul birds, defying and desecrating mighty kings, dodging and outflying dragons while using only left wing, learning to talk in human and 100 other languages, being employed by epic druids and rangers to scout mountains of doom or shaping terrain by working on an own mountain of poop. 8O
October 9, 2006 1:24:35 PM

I would rather stick my head in a barrel full of man-eating tarantulas than play a game like that. The main reason guys play games is because believe it or not men make games for other men, just like women make magazines for other women. But saying that, women’s magazines have more tits in them than men’s… I can’t quite figure that one out.

But anyway women and men don’t always like the same things, in fact as a whole woman and men seek 2 completely different methods of entertainment. Why do you think women love Soaps and things like Xfactor while men completely despise these types of programs. Why do you think women and gays get along so well?

Hell I was sitting with my girlfriend and one of her gay friends came round, and they both started talking about Kylie’s new hairstyle. I as a man could not have been less interested and decided to turn the volume up on the TV. This is what it’s all about women should not unless they are a tomboy like games, as games are made for men… Not all game mind, look at Sims that was made for housewife’s and yes I am saying if you are a man and don’t play that game just make lesbians and get bored 5 minuets later then you are gay househusband!

But anyway most of this is all caused by geeks getting defensive I just tend to ignore all this senseless nonsense. But I have given up hope on finding a girlfriend that is like-minded about computer games because they in my experience don’t exist
October 10, 2006 9:52:56 AM

Now we need to find some lesbians and ask them about computer games to test your theory. :lol: 
October 10, 2006 12:06:51 PM

I think I should set up an all female game dev team to make games for women… well all female apart from the CEO of course. Don’t think anything like that has been done before, it’s sure to be a hit :D 
October 13, 2006 2:19:51 AM

Men dont make games JUST for other men and even if they did plenty of women would still like them. And im sure the story you made up about your "gf" is a complete lie. everything you said was so steriotypical its probly the only thing you think you know about women.

the only point im trying to make is that female gaming is not a joke. i play cs, im good at it, and i have fun playing it. ive lanned all over the country and in other countries becasue of it. i never showed anyone my body to get there either and many other girls are the same. to mindlessly put down all female gamers and steriotype them as being stupid girls who just do it for attention is ignorant.
October 13, 2006 10:32:13 AM

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Men dont make games JUST for other men and even if they did plenty of women would still like them.
Your saying games like Quake 3 Arena with half naked women and erotic sounding women voice overs aren’t made for a male audience? The only games I seen girls play and I am the only guy out of a single parent family of four is games like Sims, Sim City or Rollercoaster Tycoon type games that are made for a very wide audience base. I could not catch any one of my sisters playing a game that involved violence. Hell the nearest thing I seen to that is when one of my sisters made a sim go insane by removing all the doors in a house.

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And im sure the story you made up about your "gf" is a complete lie.
I don’t lie.

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Everything you said was so steriotypical its probly the only thing you think you know about women.
That’s because all the girlfriends that I have had have been so stereotypical I guess, and all my sisters and my auntie that is in to gaming… Sims gaming… Everyone is different but as a whole girls are just not gamers. Or is it that gaming is just not for girls? That leads me on to what I was saying about tomboys…

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The only point im trying to make is that female gaming is not a joke. i play cs, im good at it, and i have fun playing it. ive lanned all over the country and in other countries becasue of it.
That’s funny as the last LAN party I was at there was no girls it was 99% male… I say 99% as there was one guy I was not sure about, he could have started life off as a women.

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I never showed anyone my body to get there either and many other girls are the same.
I am guessing that’s because it would not be a positive thing for you to flash your flesh in front of a camera. Hell I wish I could just start flinging my manhood about in front of cameras to get in to LANs all over the world. I can see why girls do it, but as I said about the woman’s magazines. They seem to be more interested in seeing other women than men. Hell the only thing I would attract if I did that would be the gay population of the LAN community.

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To mindlessly put down all female gamers and steriotype them as being stupid girls who just do it for attention is ignorant.
There has been none of the putting down of the female gamers in this thread as far as I can see. But I am stereotyping women as a whole not female gamers. Most women don’t like gaming as it is today, that is a simple fact. This is why all games that are made today sell on about a twenty to one ratio to male gamers. This is also why games like the Sims that are made for people who do not necessarily need to like gaming become the highest grossing games of all time. And like wise actually sell to more women than they do to men.

I for one am not saying women gamers are a bad thing, hell I love women gamers I wish there where just as many as men. But there are not, not even close. For instance my Windows Messenger account has roughly about 100 people and about 80% of that is guys with about 80% of that figure being gamers I have know from around the world or been in groups/clans with. Now for the 20% that is of the female flavour that is on my messenger list, only 5% of that is in to gaming (E.g. 1). She is from Germany and looks like this:



As for the female gamers that play naked and such that apparently give you girls a bad name. Just ignore that and let the men that cant get a girl pay money to have a five knuckle shuffle over these fantasy porn stars.
October 15, 2006 2:08:15 PM

god damn this annoys me, mabye its because im 14 and i dont understand anything yet, but this annoys me....

the girls think they get a lot of attention online because they are girls but really they are wrong...

if u met anybody online that had something different than u, and u were interested u would talk to them...

i may ahve written this badly cause i was up all night at my friends house,
masturbating to girls
October 16, 2006 6:19:09 AM

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For all you bored nerds sitting at home on the computer who have read and agreed with this retard Aaron McKenna's opinions on female gaming, I'd like to give you another point of view:


I had to quit reading there as I'm not a nerd, not reading this at home, and I only occasionally agree with Aaron, because disagreeing with him is just more fun in general.

Now... isn't that a waste of good text you wrote, just by applying prejudice, not unlike the prejudice that you are rather annoyed at? (ok, I peaked ahead just a little bit).

Instead of picking up the subject of another thread in the middle, you might want to spend a little time in a new topic on stating what it is exactly you disagree with.
October 16, 2006 11:58:27 AM

Confuscius say: man who create new account to troll or flame, should beware the Wingding.
October 18, 2006 4:34:06 PM

wow. idk what to say....

can someone disagree with what i said to make this interesting...lol
October 18, 2006 4:41:01 PM

If you want something "interesting" to happen, try going into The Other and asking for Wingding.
October 18, 2006 7:38:40 PM

The WingDing doesn't do minors (unless they're dead).
October 18, 2006 8:50:23 PM

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But saying that, women’s magazines have more tits in them than men’s… I can’t quite figure that one out.


Magazines use women in ads because both men and women respond to attractive women, though not always in the same ways. :oops: 

Men tend to be physically attracted to scantily clad women, while women viewers often wish to emulate the model. Using men in ads tends to turn off most men viewers (with notable exceptions like the Marlboro man), and are often less effective with women as well. Bottom line - advertisers know what sells, and if they use nearly naked women in an ad, they do so because that is the most effective way to sell the product.
October 19, 2006 10:33:38 AM

Well then it is hardly surprising that it has spilled over to gaming then.
October 29, 2006 12:31:24 PM

give...it...up

you wouldn't be doing this if you didn't think you had something to prove. I feel like going gay b/c of posts like this.
October 30, 2006 3:24:25 PM

You feel like going gay because some daft lassie does not like it that she is put in the same group as stunning looking naked porn stars that play on computer games to get geeks pants all moist?

Well good luck with that…
October 30, 2006 3:26:01 PM

damn, dude. people are quite dense on this board. it-was-a-joke.
October 30, 2006 5:59:18 PM

If you had read the thread that was linked to that article, you would have found that the majority here DID disagree with Aaron in that article.

There were a couple of notable exceptions, but really....

Female gamers are just gamers who happen to be female. I've known several. I havn't known any who stripped down or even went to tournaments, but they did play "men's" games.

I don't see that there really is anything here to prove. Some guys are just Chauvinistic idiots, so are some women.
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