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Hi,
If you want to use this,Why do you need a password for it to work?
If left blank,the task may not start it states.
I am the administrator if that helps.
thanks in advance.
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 22:11:02 GMT, mctiger wrote:

> Hi,
> If you want to use this,Why do you need a password for it to work?
> If left blank,the task may not start it states.
> I am the administrator if that helps.
> thanks in advance.
> Have sence,patience,and self-restrain,and no mischief will come.

I think the user name/password requirement is to block unauthorized
accounts from scheduling a task that could effect the system on a global
basis. XP comes from the NT branch of the Windows family. Security is
emphasized more and this is one example of that.

MVP Kelly Theriot has a workaround on her site for the password
requirement. I've never tried it but it may do what you want. Scroll down
to "Scheduled Tasks" on this page to read about the required changes to
accomplish this.

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Hi,
Can you please post MVP Kelly's Theriot web site?
This way I can check out the information that you provided.
Thanks again.
>
>I think the user name/password requirement is to block unauthorized
>accounts from scheduling a task that could effect the system on a global
>basis. XP comes from the NT branch of the Windows family. Security is
>emphasized more and this is one example of that.
>
>MVP Kelly Theriot has a workaround on her site for the password
>requirement. I've never tried it but it may do what you want. Scroll down
>to "Scheduled Tasks" on this page to read about the required changes to
>accomplish this.

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Hi,

From MVP Kelly (a workaround):

For Pro: Start/Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Local Security
Policy/Local Policies/Security options.
In the right hand pane (third down). Accounts: Limit local account use of
blank passwords to console logon only. This is enabled by default, disable
it.

For Home: Backup your registry before modifying. Start/ru nregedit, locate
the following registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa

Value name: limitblankpassworduse
Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0 (disabled) 1 (enabled)

It is enabled by default. Disable it (set the value to 0) and scheduled
tasks should run.

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> Hi,
> Can you please post MVP Kelly's Theriot web site?
> This way I can check out the information that you provided.
> Thanks again.
>>
>>I think the user name/password requirement is to block unauthorized
>>accounts from scheduling a task that could effect the system on a global
>>basis. XP comes from the NT branch of the Windows family. Security is
>>emphasized more and this is one example of that.
>>
>>MVP Kelly Theriot has a workaround on her site for the password
>>requirement. I've never tried it but it may do what you want. Scroll down
>>to "Scheduled Tasks" on this page to read about the required changes to
>>accomplish this.
>
> Have sence,patience,and self-restrain,and no mischief will come.
 
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 23:24:23 GMT, mctiger wrote:

> Can you please post MVP Kelly's Theriot web site?
> This way I can check out the information that you provided.
> Thanks again.

Sorry! I pulled up the page and looked it up before giving the reference.
Then forgot to paste the link. Anyhow, main page:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_abc.htm

Schedules Tasks is on the "S" page:
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_s.htm
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On Thu, 27 May 2004 17:22:49 +1000, David Candy wrote:

> But it does far more than just allow tasks to run without a password.
>
> It should not be used.

Some questions are a tough call in these groups. A question is asked and
there is a way to accomplish what is desired. Do you hold back the info or
not? Is the change worth it in the long run? The individual user needs to
make that decision.

Thanks for pointing out some important details regarding this particular
area and change method. Anything that alters the security layers should be
looked at very closely before implementing.

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It should be given with a reading of the riot act. Remote desktop is one vector. Consider how many computers have the admin account called Administrator without a password.

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"Sharon F" <sharonfDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message news:%23$YMGYBREHA.1548@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> On Thu, 27 May 2004 17:22:49 +1000, David Candy wrote:
>
> > But it does far more than just allow tasks to run without a password.
> >
> > It should not be used.
>
> Some questions are a tough call in these groups. A question is asked and
> there is a way to accomplish what is desired. Do you hold back the info or
> not? Is the change worth it in the long run? The individual user needs to
> make that decision.
>
> Thanks for pointing out some important details regarding this particular
> area and change method. Anything that alters the security layers should be
> looked at very closely before implementing.
>
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Hi,
I tried what you said. I received a box instead.
Snap-in failed to initialize
Name:Group Policy
CLSID( 8Fc0B734-A0E1-11D1-A7D3-000F87571E3)
What does this mean????
How can I fix this also?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks for all the responses also.


On Wed, 26 May 2004 21:32:12 -0400, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
<rick@mvps.org> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>From MVP Kelly (a workaround):
>
>For Pro: Start/Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Local Security
>Policy/Local Policies/Security options.
>In the right hand pane (third down). Accounts: Limit local account use of
>blank passwords to console logon only. This is enabled by default, disable
>it.
>
>For Home: Backup your registry before modifying. Start/ru nregedit, locate
>the following registry key:
>
>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
>
>Value name: limitblankpassworduse
>Type: REG_DWORD
>Data: 0 (disabled) 1 (enabled)
>
>It is enabled by default. Disable it (set the value to 0) and scheduled
>tasks should run.

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Hi,

Which step did you try?

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> Hi,
> I tried what you said. I received a box instead.
> Snap-in failed to initialize
> Name:Group Policy
> CLSID( 8Fc0B734-A0E1-11D1-A7D3-000F87571E3)
> What does this mean????
> How can I fix this also?
> Thanks in advance.
> Thanks for all the responses also.
>
>
> On Wed, 26 May 2004 21:32:12 -0400, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
> <rick@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>From MVP Kelly (a workaround):
>>
>>For Pro: Start/Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Local Security
>>Policy/Local Policies/Security options.
>>In the right hand pane (third down). Accounts: Limit local account use of
>>blank passwords to console logon only. This is enabled by default, disable
>>it.
>>
>>For Home: Backup your registry before modifying. Start/ru nregedit, locate
>>the following registry key:
>>
>>HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
>>
>>Value name: limitblankpassworduse
>>Type: REG_DWORD
>>Data: 0 (disabled) 1 (enabled)
>>
>>It is enabled by default. Disable it (set the value to 0) and scheduled
>>tasks should run.
>
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| "mctiger" <wmckeeby@yahoo.com.INVALID> wrote in message
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| Hi, I tried what you said. I received a box instead.
| Snap-in failed to initialize
| Name:Group Policy
| CLSID( 8Fc0B734-A0E1-11D1-A7D3-000F87571E3) <SNIP>

See the following Microsoft Knowledge Base article:

KB826282 - "Snap-in Failed to Initialize" Error Message When You
Open Microsoft Management Console
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?Product=winxp&scid=kb;en-us;826282
 
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Type in Help
Snap-in failed to initialize

while online.
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"mctiger" <wmckeeby@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:j0ffb0t1mqbikjq1sn67sk765tujdqc4v5@4ax.com...
> Hi,
> I tried what you said. I received a box instead.
> Snap-in failed to initialize
> Name:Group Policy
> CLSID( 8Fc0B734-A0E1-11D1-A7D3-000F87571E3)
> What does this mean????
> How can I fix this also?
> Thanks in advance.
> Thanks for all the responses also.
>
>
> On Wed, 26 May 2004 21:32:12 -0400, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
> <rick@mvps.org> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >From MVP Kelly (a workaround):
> >
> >For Pro: Start/Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Local Security
> >Policy/Local Policies/Security options.
> >In the right hand pane (third down). Accounts: Limit local account use of
> >blank passwords to console logon only. This is enabled by default, disable
> >it.
> >
> >For Home: Backup your registry before modifying. Start/ru nregedit, locate
> >the following registry key:
> >
> >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa
> >
> >Value name: limitblankpassworduse
> >Type: REG_DWORD
> >Data: 0 (disabled) 1 (enabled)
> >
> >It is enabled by default. Disable it (set the value to 0) and scheduled
> >tasks should run.
>
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On Fri, 28 May 2004 20:27:30 -0400, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
<rick@mvps.org> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Which step did you try?
Hi,
I followed the xp pro directions.
Then went to
KB826282 - "Snap-in Failed to Initialize" Error Message When You
Open Microsoft Management Console
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?Product=winxp&scid=kb;en-us;826282

This was no line for environment variable. So I added it in with the
path %System Root%system root;%System Root%;%system Root%\system32\WBE

After that I ok both boxes and exited.
Then went to Local Policies/security again,But still get the same
message.Snap-in failed to initialize.
What else can I do???
I typed in the help box=snap-in failed to initialize.
It showed options but no fixes.

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Looks like you misspelled and made several errors in it:

Yours:

%System Root%system root;%System Root%;%system Root%\system32\WBE

Should be (from the article):

%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\system32\WBEM

Copy/paste from here to avoid errors. Make sure you do not remove any
existing PATH statements. There should be no space between "system" and
"root" - there are in the one you posted.

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> On Fri, 28 May 2004 20:27:30 -0400, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
> <rick@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Which step did you try?
> Hi,
> I followed the xp pro directions.
> Then went to
> KB826282 - "Snap-in Failed to Initialize" Error Message When You
> Open Microsoft Management Console
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?Product=winxp&scid=kb;en-us;826282
>
> This was no line for environment variable. So I added it in with the
> path %System Root%system root;%System Root%;%system Root%\system32\WBE
>
> After that I ok both boxes and exited.
> Then went to Local Policies/security again,But still get the same
> message.Snap-in failed to initialize.
> What else can I do???
> I typed in the help box=snap-in failed to initialize.
> It showed options but no fixes.
>
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Hi again,
Is there a way to reinstall this program? If so how?
Under help about console= Microsoft Management Console 2.0 Version
5.1(Built2600.xpsp2.030422-1633:Service Pack1 Physical memory
available to windows: 259,636 KB.
I am trying to give the most info. to help me with this problem.
I hope this helps.
Thanks again.
On Sat, 29 May 2004 12:13:31 GMT, mctiger <wmckeeby@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 28 May 2004 20:27:30 -0400, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
><rick@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Which step did you try?
>Hi,
> I followed the xp pro directions.
>Then went to
>KB826282 - "Snap-in Failed to Initialize" Error Message When You
>Open Microsoft Management Console
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?Product=winxp&scid=kb;en-us;826282
>
>This was no line for environment variable. So I added it in with the
>path %System Root%system root;%System Root%;%system Root%\system32\WBE
>
>After that I ok both boxes and exited.
>Then went to Local Policies/security again,But still get the same
>message.Snap-in failed to initialize.
>What else can I do???
>I typed in the help box=snap-in failed to initialize.
>It showed options but no fixes.
>
>Have sence,patience,and self-restrain,and no mischief will come.

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Hi,
I also seen 2 variables listed under the first box.
Under user variables for (my name) listed.
TEMP
TMP
Should there only be one listed?
They both have the same path.
C:\Documents and settings\my name\Local Settings\TEMP

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Hi,
I copy\pasted the line to it.
It still gives me the same error message.
Can I re-install this program?
And if so--How would I go about it.
Thanks again for your help.

On Sat, 29 May 2004 08:43:31 -0400, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
<rick@mvps.org> wrote:

>Looks like you misspelled and made several errors in it:
>
>Yours:
>
>%System Root%system root;%System Root%;%system Root%\system32\WBE
>
>Should be (from the article):
>
>%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\system32\WBEM
>
>Copy/paste from here to avoid errors. Make sure you do not remove any
>existing PATH statements. There should be no space between "system" and
>"root" - there are in the one you posted.
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Hi,

You wouldn't reinstall a snap-in. Are you sure you copied it to the PATH
statement under SYSTEM variables? And have you rebooted since doing this?

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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
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> Hi,
> I copy\pasted the line to it.
> It still gives me the same error message.
> Can I re-install this program?
> And if so--How would I go about it.
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> On Sat, 29 May 2004 08:43:31 -0400, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
> <rick@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Looks like you misspelled and made several errors in it:
>>
>>Yours:
>>
>>%System Root%system root;%System Root%;%system Root%\system32\WBE
>>
>>Should be (from the article):
>>
>>%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%SystemRoot%\system32\WBEM
>>
>>Copy/paste from here to avoid errors. Make sure you do not remove any
>>existing PATH statements. There should be no space between "system" and
>>"root" - there are in the one you posted.
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Hi,
I followed your advice to the T.
Start-Control Panel-Administrative Tools-Local Security Policy-Local
Policies-Security Options.
Copied & pasted your last post under System Variables double clicked
the path Environment Variable.
Pasted %System Root%system root;%System Root%;%system
Root%\system32\WBE- clicked OK-then OK again-then exited by OK.
Re-booted the computer.
Still the same....
I appreciate all the help that you are giving me.

On Sat, 29 May 2004 16:56:32 -0400, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
<rick@mvps.org> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>You wouldn't reinstall a snap-in. Are you sure you copied it to the PATH
>statement under SYSTEM variables? And have you rebooted since doing this?

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Hi,
By the way after the steps of OK- the apply button is grayed out.
The only option is clicking the OK button.
I hope this helps you.
Thanks again.

>Hi,
> I followed your advice to the T.
>Start-Control Panel-Administrative Tools-Local Security Policy-Local
>Policies-Security Options.
>Copied & pasted your last post under System Variables double clicked
>the path Environment Variable.
>Pasted %System Root%system root;%System Root%;%system
>Root%\system32\WBE- clicked OK-then OK again-then exited by OK.
>Re-booted the computer.
>Still the same....
>I appreciate all the help that you are giving me.
>
>On Sat, 29 May 2004 16:56:32 -0400, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
><rick@mvps.org> wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>You wouldn't reinstall a snap-in. Are you sure you copied it to the PATH
>>statement under SYSTEM variables? And have you rebooted since doing this?
>
>Have sence,patience,and self-restrain,and no mischief will come.

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Hi again,
I followed the web page
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?Product=winxp&scid=kb;en-us;826282

Under resolution--The third step-under System Variables-double-click
the PATH environment variable.

under System Variables--Does it read environment variable or should it
read environment variables? Or should it read Path environment
variables?
Which way should it read?
Thanks.
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Hi,
Also there are 2 listings under User Variables and both have the
same path. Are there suppose to be two listed? And under the variable
it lists TEMP the other one is TMP.
Value reads -C:\Documents and Settings\my name\Local Settings\Temp
Is this correct?
Just trying to help with allot of the information that I find.
I am not a computer wiz,but I am trying.



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>Hi again,
> I followed the web page
>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?Product=winxp&scid=kb;en-us;826282
>
>Under resolution--The third step-under System Variables-double-click
>the PATH environment variable.
>
>under System Variables--Does it read environment variable or should it
>read environment variables? Or should it read Path environment
>variables?
>Which way should it read?
>Thanks.
>Have sence,patience,and self-restrain,and no mischief will come.

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It's NOT %System Root%system root;%System Root%;%systemRoot%\system32\WBE

It's

%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%systemRoot%\system32\WBEM

Rick told you this before.

It stops being read at the first error.
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> Hi again,
> I followed the web page
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?Product=winxp&scid=kb;en-us;826282
>
> Under resolution--The third step-under System Variables-double-click
> the PATH environment variable.
>
> under System Variables--Does it read environment variable or should it
> read environment variables? Or should it read Path environment
> variables?
> Which way should it read?
> Thanks.
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Hi,
I copied and pasted your line.Re-booted the computer.
And still does not work.
But thanks for your help.


On Sun, 30 May 2004 21:29:24 +1000, "David Candy" <david@mvps.org>
wrote:

>It's NOT %System Root%system root;%System Root%;%systemRoot%\system32\WBE
>
>It's
>
>%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%systemRoot%\system32\WBEM
>
>Rick told you this before.
>
>It stops being read at the first error.

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Go back and check that there aren't multiple instances in the PATH statement
now. If your earlier error-laden version is still in there, the whole thing
will be buggered up.

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>
> Hi,
> I copied and pasted your line.Re-booted the computer.
> And still does not work.
> But thanks for your help.
>
>
> On Sun, 30 May 2004 21:29:24 +1000, "David Candy" <david@mvps.org>
> wrote:
>
>>It's NOT %System Root%system root;%System Root%;%systemRoot%\system32\WBE
>>
>>It's
>>
>>%SystemRoot%\system32;%SystemRoot%;%systemRoot%\system32\WBEM
>>
>>Rick told you this before.
>>
>>It stops being read at the first error.
>
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Hi,
Being a new user-how do I check for any laden versions?
In the environment variable line?
Can you please read the posts for today that I posted?
I am trying my best to help you find a cure for my computer.
And still trying not to get anyone mad at the same time.
Happy Memorial day everyone.

On Sun, 30 May 2004 09:14:04 -0400, "Rick \"Nutcase\" Rogers"
<rick@mvps.org> wrote:

>Go back and check that there aren't multiple instances in the PATH statement
>now. If your earlier error-laden version is still in there, the whole thing
>will be buggered up.

Have sence,patience,and self-restrain,and no mischief will come.