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June 14, 2004 4:48:10 PM

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young son put W98 CD into XP home. hit yes button, it
tried to install in over XP. He thought it was one of his
games. It seemed to try to reformat everything from what
he said, the way I got the info out of him. anyway, XP is
gone. Now what. Pc just wants a boot cd installed. none
around anymore, nor the xp discs. So do I buy a complete
XP home version, for a full new install or what?

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Anonymous
June 14, 2004 7:32:25 PM

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Hi, Don.

We don't really know how much damage he did. MAYBE all you need to do is to
boot from the WinXP CD-ROM and use the Recovery Console to run FixBoot and
FixMBR. When Win98 installs, it overwrites the WinNT-style boot sector on
the system partition (almost always Drive C:)  with the Win9x/ME-style boot
sector. The Win98 boot sector looks for io.sys and msdos.sys to boot Win98.
The WinNT-style boot sector looks for C:\ntldr, which uses C:\boot.ini and
C:\ntdetect.com to find and load WinXP. All of these files together total
much less than one megabyte, so if nothing else got wiped out, simply
letting the Recovery Console put these back in place should get your WinXP
up and running again.

Of course, if it really did reformat the drive - or even start to reformat
it - you may have to reinstall WinXP from scratch. :>(

> Pc just wants a boot cd installed. none
> around anymore, nor the xp discs.

Uh, oh! What kind of computer is this? No WinXP CD-ROM? You may need to
talk to the computer maker.

I'll let someone else advise you how to explain all this to young son. ;^}

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@corridor.net
Microsoft Windows MVP

"DON" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> young son put W98 CD into XP home. hit yes button, it
> tried to install in over XP. He thought it was one of his
> games. It seemed to try to reformat everything from what
> he said, the way I got the info out of him. anyway, XP is
> gone. Now what. Pc just wants a boot cd installed. none
> around anymore, nor the xp discs. So do I buy a complete
> XP home version, for a full new install or what?
Anonymous
June 14, 2004 7:32:26 PM

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MAYBE all you need to do is to
>boot from the WinXP CD-ROM and use the Recovery Console
to run FixBoot ---------BOUGHT It used from friend when
they moved away, PC for son to play games on, they had
nothing they could find Disc wise but a few games. The
Disc of W98 was in one of the cases of one of the games.
He thought it was one of the game discs and was doing what
it said to do. He had loaded other ones OK. He had
loaded allot of game stuff from our discs. I keep our
discs orderly. THis PC for him to use was not even on the
internet. just something to play on/learn more about PCs
without doing damage to our main one.

> >Of course, if it really did reformat the drive - or
even start to reformat
>it - you may have to reinstall WinXP from scratch. :>(
>

from what he said, I think it started to do that. He said
it got to some screen that said 36% or 39 % and then that
was all.
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Anonymous
June 15, 2004 2:04:16 AM

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"DON" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
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> young son put W98 CD into XP home. hit yes button, it
> tried to install in over XP. He thought it was one of his
> games. It seemed to try to reformat everything from what
> he said, the way I got the info out of him. anyway, XP is
> gone. Now what. Pc just wants a boot cd installed. none
> around anymore, nor the xp discs. So do I buy a complete
> XP home version, for a full new install or what?

Don,

Why dont´t you have the XP disc? Did you buy your PC with an OEM license
with XP pre-installed on the hard drive? Then you should be able to restore
WinXP from a hidden partition on the HDD. Check your manual.
If not, you could buy a Windows XP update. It´s a full version, but during
install it will only ask you to insert an original Win98 disc briefly to see
if you are rightfully using an update verion of XP.

Best regards,

Ben
June 15, 2004 8:58:40 AM

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wife got it at yard sale at friend's yard sale who was
moving. nothing but game CDs were with it.
I had also posted on the 'Basic' heading the same
question.
looks like I will buy a new XP version and reinstall it.
I think he reformatted part of the drive or started to.

oh, this week my son gets to TAKE apart 2 OLD OLD PCs,
just to see what is inside of them. got an old 386 and an
old old dell, PRE-CD era ones, been sitting unused for
years.... gonna have him open them, take things out, to
see what hard drives etc are. He will do it under
supervison.
Anonymous
June 15, 2004 2:56:43 PM

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If the install process is locking up during the initial setup or install
process it is likely that there is a hardware problem. From experience I've
found that most of the time lock ups during setup or install are caused by
faulty RAM. There was a reason this PC was in a garage sale. The previous
owner was likely having problems with it and decided to dump it.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> MAYBE all you need to do is to
> >boot from the WinXP CD-ROM and use the Recovery Console
> to run FixBoot ---------BOUGHT It used from friend when
> they moved away, PC for son to play games on, they had
> nothing they could find Disc wise but a few games. The
> Disc of W98 was in one of the cases of one of the games.
> He thought it was one of the game discs and was doing what
> it said to do. He had loaded other ones OK. He had
> loaded allot of game stuff from our discs. I keep our
> discs orderly. THis PC for him to use was not even on the
> internet. just something to play on/learn more about PCs
> without doing damage to our main one.
>
> > >Of course, if it really did reformat the drive - or
> even start to reformat
> >it - you may have to reinstall WinXP from scratch. :>(
> >
>
> from what he said, I think it started to do that. He said
> it got to some screen that said 36% or 39 % and then that
> was all.
>
>
Anonymous
June 16, 2004 1:58:06 PM

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 04:58:40 -0700, DON wrote:

> wife got it at yard sale at friend's yard sale who was
> moving. nothing but game CDs were with it.
> I had also posted on the 'Basic' heading the same
> question.
> looks like I will buy a new XP version and reinstall it.
> I think he reformatted part of the drive or started to.
>
> oh, this week my son gets to TAKE apart 2 OLD OLD PCs,
> just to see what is inside of them. got an old 386 and an
> old old dell, PRE-CD era ones, been sitting unused for
> years.... gonna have him open them, take things out, to
> see what hard drives etc are. He will do it under
> supervison.

Very cool project to do with your son, Don. Enjoy!

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
June 16, 2004 4:51:38 PM

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>> oh, this week my son gets to TAKE apart 2 OLD OLD PCs,
>> just to see what is inside of them. got an old 386 and
an
>> old old dell, PRE-CD era ones, been sitting unused for
>> years.... gonna have him open them, take things out, to
>> see what hard drives etc are. He will do it under
>> supervison.
>
>Very cool project to do with your son, Don. Enjoy!
>
>--
>Sharon F
>MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
>.
> YES he loves it. We got them apart yesterday evening.
then this morning after I left for work, wife told me he
was taking more things out of them. he is having fun.
Anonymous
June 19, 2004 1:38:23 AM

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If your system is reading Windows 98 try restoring the registry.

Go to the command prompt (Start, Run, type in "cmd") and type in "cd". until
you get to c:\.

Type in "scanreg /restore" that will give you a list of dates the PC can be
restored to.

Choose one from the last time it worked properly. If that date doesn't
work..do the above again and choose another date.

Good luck!
"Ben Jorna" <b.j.jorna@nowherenet.nl> wrote in message
news:40cf4f9c$0$772$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl...
> "DON" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> news:1c78001c45248$85661800$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> > young son put W98 CD into XP home. hit yes button, it
> > tried to install in over XP. He thought it was one of his
> > games. It seemed to try to reformat everything from what
> > he said, the way I got the info out of him. anyway, XP is
> > gone. Now what. Pc just wants a boot cd installed. none
> > around anymore, nor the xp discs. So do I buy a complete
> > XP home version, for a full new install or what?
>
> Don,
>
> Why dont´t you have the XP disc? Did you buy your PC with an OEM license
> with XP pre-installed on the hard drive? Then you should be able to
restore
> WinXP from a hidden partition on the HDD. Check your manual.
> If not, you could buy a Windows XP update. It´s a full version, but during
> install it will only ask you to insert an original Win98 disc briefly to
see
> if you are rightfully using an update verion of XP.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ben
>
>
Anonymous
June 19, 2004 1:42:02 AM

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Oops sorry ..type in "cd.." until you get to c:\


"NellieBly" <nelliebly@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:#OKEe4ZVEHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> If your system is reading Windows 98 try restoring the registry.
>
> Go to the command prompt (Start, Run, type in "cmd") and type in "cd".
until
> you get to c:\.
>
> Type in "scanreg /restore" that will give you a list of dates the PC can
be
> restored to.
>
> Choose one from the last time it worked properly. If that date doesn't
> work..do the above again and choose another date.
>
> Good luck!
> "Ben Jorna" <b.j.jorna@nowherenet.nl> wrote in message
> news:40cf4f9c$0$772$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl...
> > "DON" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> > news:1c78001c45248$85661800$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> > > young son put W98 CD into XP home. hit yes button, it
> > > tried to install in over XP. He thought it was one of his
> > > games. It seemed to try to reformat everything from what
> > > he said, the way I got the info out of him. anyway, XP is
> > > gone. Now what. Pc just wants a boot cd installed. none
> > > around anymore, nor the xp discs. So do I buy a complete
> > > XP home version, for a full new install or what?
> >
> > Don,
> >
> > Why dont´t you have the XP disc? Did you buy your PC with an OEM license
> > with XP pre-installed on the hard drive? Then you should be able to
> restore
> > WinXP from a hidden partition on the HDD. Check your manual.
> > If not, you could buy a Windows XP update. It´s a full version, but
during
> > install it will only ask you to insert an original Win98 disc briefly to
> see
> > if you are rightfully using an update verion of XP.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
>
>
Anonymous
June 19, 2004 11:19:08 AM

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Hi, Nellie.

Yes, cd.. will work - eventually. But why not just type cd \ and get to the
Root of the drive immediately?

In the "DOS" window (the Command Prompt), type cd /? to see a mini-Help file
showing all the switches and parameters available for the cd command. Or
dir /? or copy /? or....

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@corridor.net
Microsoft Windows MVP

"NellieBly" <nelliebly@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Oops sorry ..type in "cd.." until you get to c:\
>
>
> "NellieBly" <nelliebly@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:#OKEe4ZVEHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> If your system is reading Windows 98 try restoring the registry.
>>
>> Go to the command prompt (Start, Run, type in "cmd") and type in "cd".
> until
>> you get to c:\.
>>
>> Type in "scanreg /restore" that will give you a list of dates the PC can
> be
>> restored to.
>>
>> Choose one from the last time it worked properly. If that date doesn't
>> work..do the above again and choose another date.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> "Ben Jorna" <b.j.jorna@nowherenet.nl> wrote in message
>> news:40cf4f9c$0$772$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl...
>> > "DON" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
>> > news:1c78001c45248$85661800$a001280a@phx.gbl...
>> > > young son put W98 CD into XP home. hit yes button, it
>> > > tried to install in over XP. He thought it was one of his
>> > > games. It seemed to try to reformat everything from what
>> > > he said, the way I got the info out of him. anyway, XP is
>> > > gone. Now what. Pc just wants a boot cd installed. none
>> > > around anymore, nor the xp discs. So do I buy a complete
>> > > XP home version, for a full new install or what?
Anonymous
June 19, 2004 4:49:20 PM

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Hey RC..I learned the wrong way..and old habits are hard to break. Why we
used to do it that way is beyond me.

Thank you for the correction.


"R. C. White" <RCWhite@msn.com> wrote in message
news:#9BHgefVEHA.3012@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Hi, Nellie.
>
> Yes, cd.. will work - eventually. But why not just type cd \ and get to
the
> Root of the drive immediately?
>
> In the "DOS" window (the Command Prompt), type cd /? to see a mini-Help
file
> showing all the switches and parameters available for the cd command. Or
> dir /? or copy /? or....
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@corridor.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
>
> "NellieBly" <nelliebly@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:u1NMg6ZVEHA.4092@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Oops sorry ..type in "cd.." until you get to c:\
> >
> >
> > "NellieBly" <nelliebly@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:#OKEe4ZVEHA.1152@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> If your system is reading Windows 98 try restoring the registry.
> >>
> >> Go to the command prompt (Start, Run, type in "cmd") and type in "cd".
> > until
> >> you get to c:\.
> >>
> >> Type in "scanreg /restore" that will give you a list of dates the PC
can
> > be
> >> restored to.
> >>
> >> Choose one from the last time it worked properly. If that date doesn't
> >> work..do the above again and choose another date.
> >>
> >> Good luck!
> >> "Ben Jorna" <b.j.jorna@nowherenet.nl> wrote in message
> >> news:40cf4f9c$0$772$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl...
> >> > "DON" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> schreef in bericht
> >> > news:1c78001c45248$85661800$a001280a@phx.gbl...
> >> > > young son put W98 CD into XP home. hit yes button, it
> >> > > tried to install in over XP. He thought it was one of his
> >> > > games. It seemed to try to reformat everything from what
> >> > > he said, the way I got the info out of him. anyway, XP is
> >> > > gone. Now what. Pc just wants a boot cd installed. none
> >> > > around anymore, nor the xp discs. So do I buy a complete
> >> > > XP home version, for a full new install or what?
>
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