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I'm about to upgrade my PIII 440BX system. I have been trying to keep up on the tech and have decided to stay Intel instead of move to AMD. Looking at P4T-533 (Rimm4200) and P4 2.26 as soon as the price drops hit. Did I get the wrong tone from Tom's last articles that I850E is not a future proof route? Or does the DDR (SISxxx) route hold more promise? I want to get a board that I can keep throwing the next price-drop speed grade CPU into for next 2 years at least. Any thoughts apprciated.

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Intel's roadmap shows that they are moving away from RDRAM. I beleive most new Intel chipsets will be based on the i845G.

Reply to fatpat

I think you should wait for the SiS655. It'll have support Dual-Channel DDR333, which would equal 5.4GB/s of mem bandwidth. That's awesome, and since DDR RAM has lower latency than RDRAM, I think you got a winner. Plus DDR333 isn't expensive really.

It should be out Q4 2002 Q1 2003, more likely end of Q4 to early Q1. That's my guess. Well worth the wait IMO.

EDIT: SiS650 is changed to SiS655.

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Reply to Chuck232

The next Intel chipsets will be the 845PE and 845PG IIRC. They're just the 845E/G with support for DDR333, still behind SiS's and VIA's chipsets, which should support DDR400 by then. I wouldn't go with VIA chipsets for the P4, since they don't even have a license from Intel. I'd stick with Intel or SiS. SiS makes great chipsets.

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Reply to Chuck232

SiS anounced they will be producing the 658 chipset at the end of THIS MONTH which will also support RDRAM, and has AGP 8x (for what that's worth), USB 2.0, and Firewire support. We will see if it outperforms the i850E.

SiS should also be releasing the 655 chipset with Dual Channel DDR support soon, other features the same as the 658.

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Reply to Crashman

You're thinking of the 655. The 650 is the 645 plus integrated graphics (ewwww).

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Oh, whoops. I'll edit that :tongue: .

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Reply to Chuck232
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I guarantee, any motherboard you get now, won't be compatible with the latest CPUs two years from now. Intel has some major design changes coming up and I doubt they will use the same socket.

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I agree. If you need it now then get it now. There is always new stuff coming out.

Reply to upec

Ahhh... yeah that's true, but they will at least use the northwood core for a while to come, probably til at least the end of 2003 and past. It still seems to have some life in it.

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Reply to Chuck232
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I doubt Intel will keep the Northwood for anything except the Celeron after Prescott. Just look at what happened to the P3. Intel almost totally bandoned it. A P3 tualatin costs more than an equivalently performing P4 because Intel isn't mass producing.

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I agree. If you need it now then get it now. There is always new stuff coming out.


That's d*mn good advice. Predicting the future is too difficult. Paying for someone else's prediction (future proofing) is too expensive.


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Reply to phsstpok
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The good news is: which type of RAM a motherboard/chipset supports doesn't necessarily indicate which CPU slot/socket it has to support.

The bad news is: it's almost impossible to predict which socket/slot type Intel will be using in two years.

The best way to stay future proof is by buying the fastest thing available at the moment, but that can get expensive.

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I850E will allwasye be 1 of the fastest even compare to granite bay springdale (for springdale that include that you use Pc 1333)

At intel they still some that dont agreed on DDR must live on the market and it better to keep.SIS offer nortbridge suck but support fastest DDR so it can beat I845.
For intel DDR chispet it coming with new version of DDR and dual channel DDR support for SATA wireless lan Agp 8X.

For socket up to 2004 intel will use the same socket.Personnaly i believe they will move to a other packing/socket at 2004/2005 when BBUL and rumored 1200 mghz FSB

The day i meet a goth queen that tell me Intel suck.I turn in a lemming to fill is need in hardware.

Reply to juin
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I JUST bought a mainboard using the 850E chipset. But I'm building myself an audio workstation so I HAD to stick with intel.

Otherwise I would have waited for the SiS chipset.

Why do you have to stick with Intel? If you don't, and you're interested in building a machine for Graphics/Gaming purposes then I'd say wait until SiS if only for the AGP8X. Nvidia will probably have cards available that use 8X in about 6 months to a year, plus some of the mainboards coming out will have the serial ATA options as well.

I think that those 2 things are important to keep in mind in terms of having that expandability under a single mainboard.

Plus DDR handles overclocking really well, so you always have that option. Whereas the RDRAM is very touchy about it and is difficult to overclock.

I won't have to upgrade my audio workstation after a P4 for YEARS, so that's why I'm going with it. That and the fact that I am forced to use Intel for combatibility reasons with my pro audio hardware.

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