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Hardware Monitor Error w/ P4S533

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August 11, 2002 6:25:11 PM

hrmmmmm,

A week ago I built my first system. I got some info from a few of the guys here on the boards that helped me out. Everything seems to be running NEAR perfect, and I am a happy camper. Problem is I get an hardware monitor error on post every once in a while. Here is the "post screen" text:

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Award Medallion BIOS v.6.0, An Energy Star Ally
Copyright (C) 1984-2001, Award Software, Inc.

Asus P4S533 ACPI BIOS Revision 1008

AWard Plug and Play BIOS Extension v1.0A
Initializing Plug and Play Cards...
PNP Init COmpleted

Trend ChipAwayVirus(R) On Guard

Detecting Primary Master ...Maxtor 6L060J3
Detecting Primary Slave ...None
Detecting Secondary Master ...Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-M1612
Detecting Secondary Slave ...None

Hardware Monitor Found an Error. Enter Power Setup menu for details.


Press F1 to continue, Del to enter Setup
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So I do the obvious and I enter bios and go to power. I look under hardware monitor and the only thing that indicates to me as a "flag" is the Chassis fan RPMs, and Power Fan RPMs, which are both in Red text. Now I have never really dealt with the bios much before, so captain obvious says to me that Red means BAD!

So I boot up into windows(XP) and I go into Asus Probe 2, and sure enough there too it is giving the lovely little "Dong dong" sound, and flashing before me is the same fans. They are performing below the "required" rpms that they seem to need to be performing at. Both are usually in the low 1600s.

Now my temperatures seem to be fine (CPU 40C/104F, MB 28C/82F) but I really don't know what "fine" is when it comes to all of this.

I've updated my bios to try and counter this problem, but it seems to still turn it's ugly head every once in while on post.

It actually used to read that the CPU fan speed was below it's recommended RPMs too, but it stopped that after a day or two. It now runs at 2700+ rpms.

Important system specs are as follows.

Asus P4S533
P4 2.26
Samsung PC3000
Antec 1080+ w/ 430watt true power

All antec fans besides the one on the CPU which is an Approved fan by Intel. Might Be Sanyo (not sure).

OH!, I gutted the system from a pitiful case and Powersupply. I forgot that part. I ordered a stock system from a company that was using non-oem parts and it was a good deal. Problem was, it was a sucky case with no air flow, so I gutted it and put it in what I just posted above. The problem DID occur in that Computer case as well. That was my first thought. It was the powersupply in this new case. But it did the same thing in the other one as well.


So any suggestions as to why this is happening? Any fixes that anyone could suggest?

Also, tell me if I am reading this all right and if there are any other "Red flags" I should look out for. I truly am just new to this side of computing. Hey, I'm a web designer! Art is my thang!:) 

Thanks.




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August 12, 2002 1:59:09 AM

i hate those hardware monitor thinggies.
specially with fan speeds.

if the fans are spinning as usual, you should ignore the warnings. ive seen monitors that missread fanspeeds by factors of 4, jumping all over the place and giving warnings all the time.

at the moment infact the monitoring system would be going nuts as my CPU fan is plugged directly into a PSU plug, thus the non-used motherboard connector is reading 0rpm.

somewhere in the bios you should be able to disable the monitoring.

oh, one final thing... dont rely on asusprobe either. it is notoriously innacurate and unreliable. (i dont call it analprobe for nothing!) i suggest motherboard monitor 5 as a decent alternative.


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August 12, 2002 3:53:12 AM

I have the same issue today for now i have disable it i will look at it.

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August 12, 2002 6:03:39 AM

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i suggest motherboard monitor 5 as a decent alternative.

too bad motherboard monitor 5 doesnt work with SIS chipsets (at least the sis 645/645dx).

anyways...
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<i>MindCrime said:</i>

Asus P4S533
P4 2.26
Samsung PC3000
Antec 1080+ w/ 430watt true power

where'd you get your stick of samsung pc3000...i might be interested in purchasing some...

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August 12, 2002 12:52:26 PM

There ya go!

I Guess that's what I was looking for. A little validation, as I wasn't even sure if that was the problem or not.

Yah, I can turn off monitoring on those fans, so that shouldn't be a problem. I'll first try motherboard monitor 5 or other monitoring programs. Curious as to pr497s post about it not working with SIS. We'll see. But thanks for the info about asus probe, I for sure didn't know that it wasn't that reliable.

Thanks again.

<b>If it aint broke, then hell, you aint looking at it in the right frame of mind!</b>
August 12, 2002 12:54:53 PM

good to know I'm not the only one :) 

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August 12, 2002 1:04:07 PM

Thanks for the info on motherboard monitor 5 not working with SIS. I'll check into that.

About the memory. I was wrong. THAT is what I was also looking into buying. I have pc2700 (samsung) at the moment, but am about to purchase a 512 stick of PC3000 (samsung). The best price I found was here :

http://www.memorylabs.net/pc3000.html

I was actually thinking of holding off on getting anything though, cause I just read an interesting post somewhere. It said that the CAS latency of the newer pc2700/pc3000/pc3200 etc. etc. wasn't up to par just yet, and for better performance it would be best to go with a Hi Perf LEVEL 2 PC2100.

I'm a newb, so I don't really know if that's true, but it was stated that the difference you'd see would be major, not just a little difference.

Ha...prolly someone just trying to sell some memory:) 

Anyway, thanks for the help.





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August 12, 2002 11:33:58 PM

yeah, ive used it twice in my PC career.
with my p3bf mobo and my celleron 500 a few years back asusprobe just couldnt monitor the voltages right... the 5v line kept dropping to zero for seconds at a time. obviously if this were really happening the pc would crash. it didnt.

then with my a7v133 and a athlon 1200C it was missreading the cpu temp by a whopping 8-9C over the bios and motherboard monitor... never found any reason for it doing so. and from what other people say its not consistant, for some its spot on, others wildly innacurate.

if MBM doesnt work im sure there are other programs out there to monitor system specs. but all in all i wouldnt be too worried. if the PC doesnt crash then alls good.

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August 13, 2002 12:21:34 AM

You're not alone. I've had the same problem, with or without asus probe installed. Flashing the bios didn't do any good. I switched to jumper mode, (133 cpu, 166 ddram) and the system seems more stable. I'm also upgrading the power supply to see if that eliminates the occasional random rebooting.
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August 13, 2002 2:46:37 AM

The problem is, even if the fan monitor is working right, it's warning level is set wrong. I have a 2700RPM Intel cooler fan running right now, it's made to be quiet. If Asus didn't take fans like these into account, they probably set the minimum speed too high.

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August 13, 2002 6:34:35 AM

Yah, that's what I was thinking. There's this whole "q-fan" thing that asus is sporting these days. It lets your fans run at lower RPMs when your computer just doesn't need the extra bit of cooling. That's for those "lite" computing days I guess :) 

I've disabled, and enabled that feature and it still does the same thing.

So yah, It's hard to believe that I'm getting an error using THEIR technology.

BTW. Does are the RPMs that I posted for my fans about normal? Just wonder what everyone else gets. They all are the standard Antec fans. 80mm. With the power saving feature.

Just wondered.

Thanks for the response.



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August 13, 2002 8:02:07 AM

Well, I've been having this with two different "good" powersupplies, and it's still happening. So Maybe I can save you that route. I even upped the watts from a 300 to a 430. No help.

I say good, cause the brands are known in the powersupply world as reliable. One's an antec, and the other is....err....umm. You know. The other one?:) 


Thanks for the response.


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August 13, 2002 8:03:26 AM

I'll try something else for sure.

Thanks everyone for the info on the asus probe not being to good. I had no idea.

Thanks again.

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