Gaming on Vista doesn't completely suck, but it isn't the picnic Microsoft claimed it would be. TwitchGuru takes a look at installing and running a few choice titles from a gamer's point of view..

Ok. So when is the FIRST big release made for Vista? (or a XP game with a Vista Update)
DX9L is good enough, but it should be 64bit and multi-core.
I can't think of any.

Crysis comes to mind. It has been touted as sporting the all new DX10 hotness, but it kind of seems far away-ish on the release calendar.

I'm tired of this. The PS3 crap, the comic movie garbage, and now Vista, which we all knew would have these problems? Dig new dirt, guys. You're stuck in a hole.

Hey look, post 911! Someone call an ambulance, TwithGuru is dying. *Razz*

Excuse me RobWright, but when was that copy of Doom 3 obtained? All the retail copies available today "should" be patched up to the latest patch, and I doubt that id are still making patches for Doom 3.

*cough* Travis Meacham wrote the article. *cough*

Ya, I was afraid someone will say that.
It seem Crysis is way ahead of everyone else.

Oops, my bad I had already closed the old page & couldn't be bothered opening a new one, so I just cut & paste form the OP. Geez I'm lazy sometimes.

>>Vista Offers Nothing to Gamers

I think Vista offers a lot of new things to gamers comparing to XP 8)
Slowing down game performance
Constant crash
Stupid side bar pop-up all the time in game (Oblivion) slowing down frame rate
Unplayable and installation problem

Most of the compatibility problems I have had, and I am guessing everyone else, is not with Vista, but rather with Nvdia and ATI drivers. Unfortunate that Vista is taking the brunt of the damage.

I believe the solution for Neverwinter Nights is a Gefore 8800GTX. This is an automatic 5.9 in your Windows Experience Index scores. Wondering how high it will go when they open up scores 6.0+. Just imagine SLI? Installing NWN2 in a RIAD configuration helps big time too. I'm playing it with every setting maxe and an Index of 5.2 (my Core 2 Duo E6600 only gets a 5.2, haven't needed to overclock it yet).

Supreme Commander is supposed to have a DX10 version coming. It is supposedly programmed to utilize multiple cores as well. Do not believe it does anything 64-bit though. I'm thinking Crysis will not be the first DX10 game, just one of the best ones.

I do not see any genuine advantages to using Vista over XP, but I have no doubt that Vista is going to be the place to be, and I think it behooves all PC Gamers to support Microsoft and the Games for Windows; I think they can/are pushing PC Gaming forward.

Gaming really does suck right now for Vista... but so does a lot of other things.

Oblivion has never run better for me though! The only crash is when you exit the game. Everything is maxed out and I can still fight when outside!

BF2142... still can't get it to run after switching to Vista. Mind you, it never really ran right under XP.

Doom 3 runs for me although FPS drops really low every once in awhile.

Dark Messiah... can't even get to the main menu without it crashing.

Haven't tried out any other games yet, as I'm still trying to get my MCE and internet running correctly.

Like Trebuken said... I think it has a lot more to do with driver support from Nvidia, ATI and Creative more than it has to do with Vista itself. Give it time... we will be gaming again!

So we should just follow Microsoft's initiatives blindly because they have our best interests at heart?

This despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary that current gaming on Vista is a worse experience than on XP? Yes, some of the issues are the fault of nVidia or AMD/ATI for not releasing good drivers yet, but not all of them. Especially installation issues. Further it has been said that a lot of the driver issues are either due to MS's lack of cooperation with HW manufacturers on driver development, or the poor handling of OpenGL by Vista (gee, I wonder why?)

If we just follow along blindly like sheep rather than speaking up about the issues, I can guarantee you that they will certainly not "push PC gaming forward." Vista is where we will all be forced to go eventually, but with enough outcry and low sales, maybe by then it will be a product that we will actually want to use for gaming.

Say that again???

Is this a console we're talking about or a computer?

I've been an anti-advocate for as long as I can remember when it comes to PC games refusing to work without the physical disc in the CD or DVD drive. For obvious reasons, of course. Even the fastest optical drives are still SLOW compared to the speed of a hard drive. All the information on the disc can be stored on the hard drive when installing a game itself. Likewise, modern games that need internet access to register and keycodes to install render the need to have a physical disc present completely obsolete. Handling the discs all the time puts them subject to damage. And in the worst case event if the disc does ever get damaged, it makes the game unplayable, possibly prevents any reinstall, and next to impossible to obtain a replacement from the manufacturer.

PITA

While stubborn game manufacturers have done this for ages as a form of copy protection, it is outdated, ineffecive and obsolete when you look at how computers are connected today, the needs of gamers and how gamers like to use their machines.

There is, after all, a reason behind software such as Alcohol 120%...

Running games right off the disc? Why do you think I don't own an Xbox?

Quite True. The whole idea of running PC games directly from the disk is flawed on many levels, and would be a step backwards for gamin, even with ever-increasing disk storage sizes.

i tried to install alot of game on my vista ... old C&C work perfectly O.o RA2,Tib Sun, Renegade, General .... UT2k4, AVP2 and Halo work right too ... but i cant get Swat4 installing right ... BF2142 got some big fps drop during game, AOE3 too ... and i play with a A64 3200+ with a 7600GS and 2gb of ram ... ya Vista dont help us with game ... i changed cause i got a good deal ... but i think ill reinstall XP in dual boot for game ...

It's not really using dual or quad cores in the best way for alot of people, although having a dual or quad improves performance drastically, and it does use the 2nd or 3rd, 4th core, but very little.

You sound serious, I feel there's hidden sarcasm in that sentence.