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Anonymous
August 4, 2004 5:37:23 AM

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I know this has been covered, and I've done my due diligence in Google, but
I cannot figure out my problem, and my cable internet company basically told
me to take a hike.
I have a LAN behind a Dlink DI614+ router. One of the devices on my network
is a Dlink DCS-900W wireless camera, with a fixed address of 192.168.0.20.
My router is otherwise set up for DHCP. I can access the camera through a
browser from any pc on my LAN, no problems. However, I cannot access it
from outside my LAN. Since the camera has a built-in web server, I used
"virtual server" in my router to forward port 80 to the wireless camera.
The IP address from my ISP, Time Warner cable, is not static, but it hasn't
changed in a year, so I think I should be able to hit my LAN from the
internet, assuming the router settings are correct. Is that a bad
assumption? Is it okay that I leave my router and pc's set to DHCP? I have
wondered if there is a conflict with port 80, having to do with the camera's
"fixed" address being in the router's DHCP range.
BTW, as for any help from Time Warner, I emailed asking if they blocked http
or other protocols to dynamic/residential IPs, and they didn't give me an
answer, just saying that troubleshooting my network problems was not their
business. I tried to explain that I was only wanting to know if I had to
have a static or "public" IP to do what I wanted to do. So much for any
help from them.
Any assistance with this is GREATLY appreciated. Thank you.

jakesnake

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Anonymous
August 4, 2004 5:13:54 PM

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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 01:37:23 GMT, jakesnake66 spoketh

>I know this has been covered, and I've done my due diligence in Google, but
>I cannot figure out my problem, and my cable internet company basically told
>me to take a hike.
>I have a LAN behind a Dlink DI614+ router. One of the devices on my network
>is a Dlink DCS-900W wireless camera, with a fixed address of 192.168.0.20.
>My router is otherwise set up for DHCP. I can access the camera through a
>browser from any pc on my LAN, no problems. However, I cannot access it
>from outside my LAN. Since the camera has a built-in web server, I used
>"virtual server" in my router to forward port 80 to the wireless camera.
>The IP address from my ISP, Time Warner cable, is not static, but it hasn't
>changed in a year, so I think I should be able to hit my LAN from the
>internet, assuming the router settings are correct. Is that a bad
>assumption? Is it okay that I leave my router and pc's set to DHCP? I have
>wondered if there is a conflict with port 80, having to do with the camera's
>"fixed" address being in the router's DHCP range.
>BTW, as for any help from Time Warner, I emailed asking if they blocked http
>or other protocols to dynamic/residential IPs, and they didn't give me an
>answer, just saying that troubleshooting my network problems was not their
>business. I tried to explain that I was only wanting to know if I had to
>have a static or "public" IP to do what I wanted to do. So much for any
>help from them.
>Any assistance with this is GREATLY appreciated. Thank you.
>
>jakesnake
>

If forwarding port 80 to the static internal IP address on your camera
doesn't work, then it is very possible that your ISP is blocking port
80. Many ISPs do... If your router supports port translation, you can
forward another port (ie 8080) to port 80 on your camera...

Lars M. Hansen
http://www.hansenonline.net
(replace 'badnews' with 'news' in e-mail address)
Anonymous
August 4, 2004 7:03:14 PM

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"Lars M. Hansen" <badnews@hansenonline.net> wrote in message
news:h662h05dm92f3v2cnpsdo9c7e8lan35has@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 01:37:23 GMT, jakesnake66 spoketh
>
> >I know this has been covered, and I've done my due diligence in Google,
but
> >I cannot figure out my problem, and my cable internet company basically
told
> >me to take a hike.
> >I have a LAN behind a Dlink DI614+ router. One of the devices on my
network
> >is a Dlink DCS-900W wireless camera, with a fixed address of
192.168.0.20.
> >My router is otherwise set up for DHCP. I can access the camera through
a
> >browser from any pc on my LAN, no problems. However, I cannot access it
> >from outside my LAN. Since the camera has a built-in web server, I used
> >"virtual server" in my router to forward port 80 to the wireless camera.
> >The IP address from my ISP, Time Warner cable, is not static, but it
hasn't
> >changed in a year, so I think I should be able to hit my LAN from the
> >internet, assuming the router settings are correct. Is that a bad
> >assumption? Is it okay that I leave my router and pc's set to DHCP? I
have
> >wondered if there is a conflict with port 80, having to do with the
camera's
> >"fixed" address being in the router's DHCP range.
> >BTW, as for any help from Time Warner, I emailed asking if they blocked
http
> >or other protocols to dynamic/residential IPs, and they didn't give me an
> >answer, just saying that troubleshooting my network problems was not
their
> >business. I tried to explain that I was only wanting to know if I had to
> >have a static or "public" IP to do what I wanted to do. So much for any
> >help from them.
> >Any assistance with this is GREATLY appreciated. Thank you.
> >
> >jakesnake
> >
>
> If forwarding port 80 to the static internal IP address on your camera
> doesn't work, then it is very possible that your ISP is blocking port
> 80. Many ISPs do... If your router supports port translation, you can
> forward another port (ie 8080) to port 80 on your camera...
>
> Lars M. Hansen
> http://www.hansenonline.net
> (replace 'badnews' with 'news' in e-mail address)
Nobody can block port 80. That's the internet port.
Here are some common ports.


ssh 22/tcp SSH Remote Login Protocol
ssh 22/udp SSH Remote Login Protocol

telnet 23/tcp Telnet
telnet 23/udp Telnet


finger 79/tcp Finger
finger 79/udp Finger

http 80/tcp World Wide Web HTTP
http 80/udp World Wide Web HTTP
www 80/tcp World Wide Web HTTP
www 80/udp World Wide Web HTTP
www-http 80/tcp World Wide Web HTTP
www-http 80/udp World Wide Web HTTP

The list I use is at:
http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers


Now as to the original question he is never going to be able to access a 192
IP address from the web because that is an open private IP address. Anyone
can use an address in the 192.XXX.XXX.1 - 254 range on their private LAN.
As a matter of fact the computer I'm on now uses 192.168.254.xxx which is
usually 119 and I can publish that with the sure knowledge that nobody can
get into my computer because I'm behind a router doing NAT and acting as a
gateway to the WWW.
I used to be on a static IP that was "on the web" and got all kinds of UDP
probes on my firewall all the time. I have now uninstalled the firewall
because it was just taking up CPU cycles.
Hope this helps.
AG
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Anonymous
August 4, 2004 9:48:16 PM

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Hi,
I don't have experience with a wireless camera connected to my LAN (will be
the case when I find a suitable one) and haven't read the user manual for
your router, but I have experience with a web server running on one of my
PC's behind a Sitecom router.
The Sitecom router offers virtual servers, just select the service (=Web),
define the external port number and the internal port number.
If you are using a fixed IP address for your camera, you don't have to
worry, just make sure that the IP address of the camera is connected to the
vitual server feature.

In most cases, the IP address from the ISP stays the same. If you want to
make life easy, use a free Dynamic DNS (DDNS) service.
There are several free DDNS services, I am using http://www.dyndns.org/
How does it work, register yourself and connect your ISP IP address to the
DDNS-name.

As I said, I don't know the Dlink router, but the Sitecom has a special
setting DDNS => changes in the ISP IP-address are automatically forwarded to
DynDNS => No more worries.

Example: http://jakesnake.homedns.org:8989/.....

/rob

"jakesnake66" <jake@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:n5XPc.114117$fv.72143@fe2.columbus.rr.com...
> I know this has been covered, and I've done my due diligence in Google,
but
> I cannot figure out my problem, and my cable internet company basically
told
> me to take a hike.
> I have a LAN behind a Dlink DI614+ router. One of the devices on my
network
> is a Dlink DCS-900W wireless camera, with a fixed address of 192.168.0.20.
> My router is otherwise set up for DHCP. I can access the camera through a
> browser from any pc on my LAN, no problems. However, I cannot access it
> from outside my LAN. Since the camera has a built-in web server, I used
> "virtual server" in my router to forward port 80 to the wireless camera.
> The IP address from my ISP, Time Warner cable, is not static, but it
hasn't
> changed in a year, so I think I should be able to hit my LAN from the
> internet, assuming the router settings are correct. Is that a bad
> assumption? Is it okay that I leave my router and pc's set to DHCP? I
have
> wondered if there is a conflict with port 80, having to do with the
camera's
> "fixed" address being in the router's DHCP range.
> BTW, as for any help from Time Warner, I emailed asking if they blocked
http
> or other protocols to dynamic/residential IPs, and they didn't give me an
> answer, just saying that troubleshooting my network problems was not their
> business. I tried to explain that I was only wanting to know if I had to
> have a static or "public" IP to do what I wanted to do. So much for any
> help from them.
> Any assistance with this is GREATLY appreciated. Thank you.
>
> jakesnake
>
>
>
>
Anonymous
August 5, 2004 3:46:12 AM

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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:03:14 -0500, AG spoketh

>Nobody can block port 80. That's the internet port.

Of course they can block port 80. They can block any port _IN_ to their
customers that they want, especially when the TOS says that you can't
host a web server...

>
>
>Now as to the original question he is never going to be able to access a 192
>IP address from the web because that is an open private IP address. Anyone
>can use an address in the 192.XXX.XXX.1 - 254 range on their private LAN.

I suggest you read up on NAT routers. Of course he can access anything
on his LAN from anywhere, because he'll be using the EXTERNAL public IP
address of his router, which will forward the traffic to the internal IP
address.


Lars M. Hansen
www.hansenonline.net
Remove "bad" from my e-mail address to contact me.
"If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?"
Anonymous
August 5, 2004 12:17:13 PM

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"Lars M. Hansen" <badnews@hansenonline.net> wrote in message
news:t0t2h09ccj07ged5qnm6rdf80ma7vpq59s@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:03:14 -0500, AG spoketh
>
> >Nobody can block port 80. That's the internet port.
>
> Of course they can block port 80. They can block any port _IN_ to their
> customers that they want, especially when the TOS says that you can't
> host a web server...
>
> >
> >
> >Now as to the original question he is never going to be able to access a
192
> >IP address from the web because that is an open private IP address.
Anyone
> >can use an address in the 192.XXX.XXX.1 - 254 range on their private LAN.
>
> I suggest you read up on NAT routers. Of course he can access anything
> on his LAN from anywhere, because he'll be using the EXTERNAL public IP
> address of his router, which will forward the traffic to the internal IP
> address.
>
>
> Lars M. Hansen
> www.hansenonline.net
> Remove "bad" from my e-mail address to contact me.
> "If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?"

You're right, it can be done but not just by simply typing in that IP 192
address and expecting to get into the camera. He's going to have to get to
the router first, then forward his requests to the camera. I'm not sure how
to do it since I've got plenty of IP addresses that I can use to put
equipment on when I need web access to it.
That's the good thing about working at a small ISP that bought more
addresses than we really needed back in '98 when we started.
AG
Anonymous
August 5, 2004 11:38:31 PM

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On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 08:17:13 -0500, AG spoketh

>
>You're right, it can be done but not just by simply typing in that IP 192
>address and expecting to get into the camera. He's going to have to get to
>the router first, then forward his requests to the camera. I'm not sure how
>to do it since I've got plenty of IP addresses that I can use to put
>equipment on when I need web access to it.
>That's the good thing about working at a small ISP that bought more
>addresses than we really needed back in '98 when we started.
>AG
>

He never said he used the private address from the public side...

Lars M. Hansen
www.hansenonline.net
Remove "bad" from my e-mail address to contact me.
"If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?"
Anonymous
August 6, 2004 12:06:56 AM

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Port 80 can be blocked just like any other port.


On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:03:14 -0500, "AG" <atenor@email.com> wrote:

>Nobody can block port 80. That's the internet port.
>Here are some common ports.
!