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vtxcraziexboi   06-16-2007 at 07:16:57 PM

For some reason my fps doesn't stay constant on 100 and my friend said it should stay constant on 100 with my specs.

Comp Specs: Intel Pentium D 805 2.66Ghz
1.5GB of DDR-3200 RAM
BFG 7900GS 256MB
250GB SATA
80GB ATA
200GB SATA
Windows XP Pro (SP2)
Nvidia Foreware 93.71 Driver
Flat 19 Inch CRT Monitor
1024x768 Resolution on 100Hz
Antialiasing Setting - Application-Controlled
Anisotropic Filtering - Application-Controlled
Image Setting - Quality
Vertical Sync - Off


Counterstrike 1.6- Settings
800x600 Resolution
fps_max 101
rate 25000
cl_cmdrate 101
cl_updaterate 101
-freq 100

Video card temp when playing is around 58-60.
I have 3 fans too cool my case, one on the front, one on the side, and one on the back.

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enforcerfx   06-16-2007 at 08:31:34 PM
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As long as its around 60 or more, your fine. The human eye can not track more than 60.

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FeareX   06-16-2007 at 10:08:09 PM
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The thing with counter strike players is that they think they do notice the 40 more fps :? , at least the people i know do.

But about the FPS, it depends on wich maps you play.

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Flakes   06-17-2007 at 01:02:42 PM
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1024x768 Resolution on 100Hz - thats your problem its being cpu limited - or you have vsync enabled, turn off vsync and put AA and AF on full.

anyway to the poster above i notice when counterstrike is running below 100 fps, its the only game i kno of that you can notice a difference between 60 and 100. especially if you surf or play the fast deathmatch then it is really noticable.

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vtxcraziexboi   06-17-2007 at 07:04:22 PM
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Can that really happen? When my desktop res is 1024x768 at 100hz and my cs window on 800x600 100hz. My monitor can support up to 100hz on 1024x768 and my 800x600 it can support 120hz. I did turn off vsync. Could it be a psu thing?

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Flakes   06-19-2007 at 01:23:21 AM
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yeah it can, i noticed with my 7800GTx a big difference between 1280*1024 and 1680*1050. the 1680 having a better FPS than the 1280...

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vtxcraziexboi   06-19-2007 at 01:48:29 AM
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I see...but with my comp I should be getting 100 fps constant right? I'm not getting that. It drops big time like to 40-100 when I see like 5 players. But when I'm in like 5 smokes I get 100 fps.

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cafuddled   06-19-2007 at 10:24:16 AM
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Your hardware is not good enough, does not matter what kind of graphics card you have in that thing.

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dagoth_ur   06-19-2007 at 02:44:09 PM
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1024x768 Resolution on 100Hz - thats your problem its being cpu limited - or you have vsync enabled, turn off vsync and put AA and AF on full.

anyway to the poster above i notice when counterstrike is running below 100 fps, its the only game i kno of that you can notice a difference between 60 and 100. especially if you surf or play the fast deathmatch then it is really noticable.



You can definitely notice the diference in Quake 3 as well..unless you play for the first time)

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vtxcraziexboi   06-19-2007 at 06:58:37 PM
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does that mean I need a faster cpu? my fsb is only 533... and my bus speed is only 133.3.

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stromm   06-19-2007 at 09:29:46 PM
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Having been a CS player from the start (yea, back when there was only a hundred or so), I love hearing people say what they've heard vs. what they've tested.

Anyway,

800x600 Resolution
fps_max 101
rate 25000
cl_cmdrate 101
cl_updaterate 101

Rate, cl_cmdrate, cl_updaterate are never CONSTANTS. Do not set these and leave them expecting they'll fine for every server/map/session. These settings are relative first to your Internet connection, second to the link between you and the server, third the number of players on the server and lastly the map being played.

Incorrectly configuring them WILL poorly affect your gaming experience. Too high/low will drop your FPS, cause you to miss that guy standing right in front of you, cause you to die and not know where you got shot from, etc.

Use net_graph 3 and watch the choke/loss number. Raise/LOWER the "rates" until you constantly get ZERO on both.

All that said, I can get 120+ FPS on an old P3-1ghz with a 32mb RageFury at 1024x768. I alway get 100+fps on my out of date game PC which is a socket 478 P4 2.8ghz with a Radeon 9800pro at 1920x1200.

Lastly, make sure that your drives are defrag'd and that your system is virus/spyware clean.

OH, make sure that you aren't connected to any torrents. That'll kill your FPS bigtime.

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vtxcraziexboi   06-20-2007 at 02:55:58 AM
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I get 0 loss or choke.. Could it be my psu whichs is only a 400w and my cpu fsb is only 533 and my bus speed is 133.3. I look at toms benchmarks and see other processors with like 1000fsb and like 200 bus speed.

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dagoth_ur   06-20-2007 at 09:39:34 AM
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Quote :

I get 0 loss or choke.. Could it be my psu whichs is only a 400w and my cpu fsb is only 533 and my bus speed is 133.3. I look at toms benchmarks and see other processors with like 1000fsb and like 200 bus speed.



power supply unit does not affect performance

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stromm   06-20-2007 at 06:42:18 PM
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power supply unit does not affect performance[/quote]

Actually, it can.

Not the rating of a PSU (400watts, etc.) but if the PSU is failing and kicking out fluctuating power levels or EM noise, it will affect the performance of a PC.

All that said, I don't think this is the OPs issue.

Something which just occured to me. 101 is "auto-adjust". This means that CS1.6 will constantly tweek it's fps, rates and other things to "give the best experience possible". That doesn't mean high FPS, but what ever valve thinks you should get.

Try setting max_fps 100, cl_rate 16000, cl_cmdrate 60, cl_updaterate 60. Then use net_graph 3 to see what your FPS is. Watch the choke/loss too.

I'm guessing that if you are getting ZERO choke/loss already, it's because your rates are being auto-adjusted.

Lower rates can mean lower FPS (not enough data to get high FPS's).

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