maybe you just had a poor processor,I ran mine w/ a stock cooler at the stock clock speed and didn't have any heat related issuses. I even load tested w/ orthos and never got over 48C. and that was with cool & quiet disabled. On a side note I'm sure you know this already but if your mobo doesn't support a 125watt processor you'll get high processor temps. I also thought that including free shipping made it a fair price, but if you think my price is out of line what do you think is a fair price?(the processor is basically new) I'm not trying to cheat anyone I just wanted to get a fair price out of my hardware. If you felt like being really helpful you might tell me how to start my own thread for next time. Thanks