So I played Crysis last night for about an hour or so (1370 x 768) on a 27" LCD. Last week I played COD4. I gotta say right now COD4's graphics to me are actually better. I mean I could feel my jaw dropping in some scenes for COD 4. So far in Crysis I'm not that impressed by just the graphics. I do like parts of the open game play though.
I'm bringing home a 24" WS monitor with a native res of 1680 x 1050 in hopes to see if playing the game at a better resolution will help but COD4 on my 27 with 1370 x 768 looked awesome!
what settings are you running each game at...
i dont really care, cod4 is not my type of game, so many walls, i want to run around like a fairy in the forest and use sleeping (darts) dust on KPA soldiers that come my way.

Lol. Run around like a fairy with lethal weapons. :-)
I haven't seen first hand Crysis eye candy. I haven't seen COD4 eye candy either.
I just want to brag that I run COD4 on my system - (P4 1.8, Radeon 9550 SE 512 Mb SDRAM), 640x480, everything on lowest possible and it's playable. Ugly as hell, but definitely playable. Of course, the term "playable" is negotiable too, because sometimes during battle I move the mouse and shoot at something but one frame it's there the next frame it's three screens right, and someone is shooting at me but I can't see from where. Until I manage to center my view and look around the battle is over.
But, Christmas is coming, and my next salary too - somewhere out there is a 8800GT, quietly sleeping in its box in a store, waiting to be plugged in and unleash its shader units on nothing suspected pixels. Yes, my precious...soon (well, unless my boss decides to pay his debts with my *&#;@ salary again)
| Flyingpolok wrote : So I played Crysis last night for about an hour or so (1370 x 768) on a 27" LCD. Last week I played COD4. I gotta say right now COD4's graphics to me are actually better. I mean I could feel my jaw dropping in some scenes for COD 4. So far in Crysis I'm not that impressed by just the graphics. I do like parts of the open game play though.
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What's your hardware smart guy?
I can max CoD4 at 800x600 with a 7600gt (med @ 1024), I'm sure a lowly x1950pro could max it at the rez you're playing it at. Crysis needs an 8800GT minimum to look / play great at your rez of 1320x768.
Played both games.
Loved both of em.
Cod 4 Maxed out at 1980x1200
Crysis on High at 1980x1200
Personally I think Crysis puts any and every game to shame when it comes to graphics. This includes cod4, but everyone is entitled to their opinions.
Once we have systems able to run Crysis @ full detail, res, AA, DX10 and 60 FPS I believe it will blow CoD 4 out of the water, but I suppose right now at lower detail and res on Crysis it wont look as good as CoD 4 at higher settings. Remember how much more you are rendering in Crysis over CoD 4...so the settings cant be set the same and get the same performance. I think that if you put them side by side on relative same settings that Crysis will easily take the take...none of this even takes in account the superior physics of the cryengine 2 of whatever CoD 4 is used on. Just my two cents!
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yea a system really hasnt even been made yet that can handle crysis at full-ridiculously-maxed-out-everything . . . so it clearly has wayyyy more potential than cod4 in graphics . . dont think any game will even come close to that for a while
Crysis blows COD4's socks off.
COD4 = not as good graphics but better game
Crysis Graphics are too clean... the jungles.. they look great.. but call of duty appeals to what I like more. COD4 is an amazing game. I play is on my 92" projection screen (1080p) and it is amazing.
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I played the COD4 demo before Crysis and thought COD4 looked pretty good. Nothing mind blowing but very good and it ran smooth along with simply being a great game. Then I played Crysis. At first I tried everything maxed (like COD4) but it wasn't very playable. I lowered my res and AA and the was able to play and Crysis definetly blows COD4 away even when somewhat below max settings. Even though gameplay is not quite as smooth, visually Crysis completely dominates COD4 and every other game. Throw in the impressive physics and Crysis is by far the most stunning game ever as far as looks go. I haven't played much COD4 (only parts of the demo) so I can't compare gameplay, but on looks alone there is no comparison.
yeah, i definitely think crysis has better graphics. the image quality is simply better and the amount of detail in textures, objects, etc is also much higher.
So I swapped monitors from the 27 to a 19 that supports a higher native res of 1280 x 1024. Really not much of a difference. Meaning the graphics IMO aren't mind blowing, they are nice though.
My settings for both games are all set on high. Crysis is set to "everything high". I've been playing Crysis more and I'm seeing some better graphics but still not as spectacular as I imagined. Also There are busy scenes that seem to cripple my machine's FPS in crysis (understandable) whereas in COD4 there seem to be even bigger and busier scenes that my machine eats right through without a drop in FPS (not understandable).
So far the best scene for me in both games was in COD4 as the sniper suited in leaves running through the desserted buildings of the dessolated city in an attempt to assisnate one of the evil leaders. The light shinning through the buildings creating shadows off the charecters and of the building was spectacular.
I gotta say I had two pretty great moments last night in Crysis where I used the speed function to zip next to a machine gun bunker, then the strength function to hop on the roof, then shot down through the roof which collapsed the building then shot the guard in the head all in one seemless motion. The next was that I simply blew apart a guard tower holding a sniper with the missle launcher. After exploding the structure the roof continued to flip off high into the sky and land into palm trees where it knocked them down. I thought that was pretty realistic.
My system specs are:
Core 2 E6600 2.4 / core (no overclock)
4 GB DDR2 RAM
Raid 0+1 (4 300 GB HDD) 680i chipset
8800GTS 640 MB graphics Card
Vista 64 Ultimate
COD4 graphics are excellent while still remaining playable on non-enthusiasts cards. Crysis graphics are outstanding, but not nearly as playable on the "average" card. This is not necessarily a bad thing either. I feel that Crysis bringing every known graphics card to it's knees will force card manufacturers into making next gen cards.
Crysis pushes every graphics card. Only the graphics card.
Cod4 has great graphics but simply nowhere near as good as Crysis. Your resolution might be your problem. Also chances are you werent running at the highest settings
I get ~100fps more in COD4 than I can in Crysis at max settings... so it definately plays better, adding to the experience and overall quality of the game.
The argument is both subjective and objective... so that being said, the graphics quality seems similiar in both games, but the detail of the environments in Crysis are head and shoulders above anything I've ever played.
| rgeist554 wrote : This is not necessarily a bad thing either. I feel that Crysis bringing every known graphics card to it's knees will force card manufacturers into making next gen cards. |
But as a game consumer that is not the reason to buy a game now is it? We want the best gaming experience possible, not a game that will force us to upgrade to something that has not yet even been released yet.
| Quote : But as a game consumer that is not the reason to buy a game now is it? We want the best gaming experience possible, not a game that will force us to upgrade to something that has not yet even been released yet.
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No, it's really not a reason to buy it. The gameplay is pretty good (I never played FarCry so I can't compare the two) allowing you to do just about anything you want. I feel that COD4 and HL2 (& the Source Engine in general) do a fantastic job of delivering great looks and outstanding performance. I still do respect these guys somewhat for taking the leap, because someone had to do it, and usher in a new age of hardware and graphics. They are the pioneers of the gaming industry atm, and whether you know it or not, I think you will appreciate it some day.
I think the type of graphics in COD4 are what impress me... things are more realistic IMO... that being said its probably easier to design a realistic looking COD type environment then the ones they do in Crysis. I think both games are great and deserve some props.
| BigMac wrote : But as a game consumer that is not the reason to buy a game now is it? We want the best gaming experience possible, not a game that will force us to upgrade to something that has not yet even been released yet. |
Ah, therein lies the rub...
I think there's a very real debate going on right now about which is the better game, top to bottom: CoD4 or Crysis?
In terms of graphics, I'll submit that you can run CoD4 at full tilt across the board and not strain your current system, whereas Crysis will most likely require some upgrades before you can approach high settings at a decent resolution. And even then, it's next to impossible to push everything to Very High settings at max resolution and have a decent gaming experience. So yes, Crysis does have better graphics (but not by all that much IMO), but what's the point if you can't appreciate them during gameplay becaue you're stuck at 15-20 FPS?
Aside from graphics, not to hijack this thread or anything, I've played a fair amount of Crysis (Travis is reviewing it, I'm just playing for fun). So far I have to say that CoD4 has the better single player camapign, but that could change soon.
| Quote : So far I have to say that CoD4 has the better single player camapign, but that could change soon. |
The dynamic campaign style is why CoD4 is one of the best single player campaigns out there. You aren't forced to run through trenches or hallways for 16 levels. You literally get to do just about everything you see going around you in CoD4. CoD4 definitely pulls ahead of Crysis in the multi player dept... so much fun
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Crysis is fun and it's "Sandbox" style allows for great replay value since you can approach the same mission just about any way you see fit. (Drive a car full of gas barrels into a tower, Yeah!!!) The singe player also gets a little (tiny bit) stale when you get into the cave (I won't spoil anything).
I'm very disappointed in Crysis. I played for about an hour last night, 55 mins of that time was spent playing with settings to try to get it to look DECENT and maintain at least ~30 fps... I couldn't. I looked at all the tweak guides. I think the settings I ended up with was 1280 x 800, no AA, shader quality on high and everything else on medium and water on low. I believe I'm up around 40 fps but it simply does not look impressive AT ALL.
Call of Duty 4 on the other hand I can run on ALL of the highest settings, looks amazing and multiplayer runs as smooth as can be.
The only good thing I can say about Crysis is that you can definitely see there is a lot of technology and potential and interactive qualities to the graphics and terrain... but, its just NOT worth it at this point.
AMD X2 6000+
eVGA 8800 GT
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470 PC Power & Cooling PSU
22" Dell LCD
| Quote : I looked at all the tweak guides. I think the settings I ended up with was 1280 x 800, no AA, shader quality on high and everything else on medium and water on low. I believe I'm up around 40 fps but it simply does not look impressive AT ALL. |
Why would you put Shader on high instead of pushing some AA? Put shader on medium or low, crank some other settings up and put 4xAA... the game looks 1000x times better with just some AA. No more jaggies on clouds, particles, etc. The reason it doesn't look impressive is because you set it up wrong.
| Quote : Call of Duty 4 on the other hand I can run on ALL of the highest settings, looks amazing and multiplayer runs as smooth as can be.
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Yeah, CoD4 is definitely game of the year quality in terms of game play and graphics. Like you said, crank everything up and have run in multiplay... you shouldn't see a single stutter. Very, very good optimization imo. (Most games will give you huge dips in FPS when transitioning to certain areas within a map, this game avoids that.
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Well, I did research on other forums (as well as this one I think)... the consensus from what I read was that the improvements in AA 2-4x is negligable compared to the performance hit you take. Some even said that it is completely unnoticeable from off to 2x or 4x and posted screenshots. That being said, the shader setting was noted to be the most noticeable improvement from medium to high.
I did try MANY settings, AA included, and I noticed not much graphical improvement... especially none that warrented a 5-8 fps hit. If someone with a similar setup wants to post their best settings while getting 30 fps I'm all ears.
Tonight I'll try to have everything on medium with only Physics on High and AA 4x and see if that helps. If it I'm not getting 25+ fps consistently I'll try direct x 9.
| monnewbie3 wrote : Played both games.
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I agree a 110%. I have an 8800GT and played COD4 fully maxed on 1980 x1200 and Crysis pn 1980 x 1200 all high (with a few Very High settings) and trust me when I say COD4 has nothing on Crysis
| surly wrote : I'm very disappointed in Crysis. I played for about an hour last night, 55 mins of that time was spent playing with settings to try to get it to look DECENT and maintain at least ~30 fps... I couldn't. I looked at all the tweak guides. I think the settings I ended up with was 1280 x 800, no AA, shader quality on high and everything else on medium and water on low. I believe I'm up around 40 fps but it simply does not look impressive AT ALL.
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That is very bad performance, you should be using settings on high with good fps (no AA), with no problems, something is definitely wrong, unless you got the 256MB version of the GT.

You guys should look up some of the autoexec.cfg files that people have been posting on the Crysis websites. I have one from Crysis-Online by Belloni, that is basically all high setting with the Xp DX10 hack , and it looks 10x better than normal XP high. I get about 30FPS @ 1440x900. His tweak makes my game look very close to original E3 trailers. Shiny leaves and all.
Call of duty I like much more than Crysis. I played cod4 maxed settings, crysis only gets medium-low with much less fps.
| itotallybelieveyou wrote : COD4 = not as good graphics but better game |
Pretty much hit the nail on the head with this one. Although on my PC, the graphics of CoD 4 are on par if not better than Crysis. Crysis taxes my system to much to warrant the "better" graphics though.
Yes, I agree, sorry but cod4 graphics are WAY overrated, I'm running Crysis on ultra high, with 4 HD4870 X2 Graphics cards and a Q6600, with 4GB of DDR3 RAM, runs very nicely, ultra high settings pummels cod4 into the ground, eats HAZE for breakfast and any PS3 game doesn't even come into the picture.
It is truly got the best graphics yet to be seen, can you shoot a barrel with a fully automatic gun and watch each bullet cause individually rendered dents, then watch each bullet shell roll down a slope to collect in a dent in the ground? no? didn't think so.
Just search up "Crysis Ultra high" on youtube.
I’ve only played the demo of Crysis but I have played the full version of COD4, as far as graphics go Crysis is a lot better even at high settings. For me the graphics in COD4 are solid buildings look good but he models lack detail and in a lot of scenes they sue the same textures over and over again which aren’t particularly high res.
Personally the best game I’ve played as far as graphics goes in Half Life 2 Episode 2. It’s just as good as Crysis (DX9 mode) if not better and doesn’t require a high end video cards just to get a smooth frame rate.
| Flyingpolok wrote : So I played Crysis last night for about an hour or so (1370 x 768) on a 27" LCD. Last week I played COD4. I gotta say right now COD4's graphics to me are actually better. I mean I could feel my jaw dropping in some scenes for COD 4. So far in Crysis I'm not that impressed by just the graphics. I do like parts of the open game play though.
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While the art direction of COD4 may make it look better to you, Crysis is vastly superior on a technical level.
| JeanLuc wrote : Personally the best game I’ve played as far as graphics goes in Half Life 2 Episode 2. It’s just as good as Crysis (DX9 mode) if not better and doesn’t require a high end video cards just to get a smooth frame rate. |
Half-Life 2: Episode 2 is extremely dated, and there are many better looking titles that have come out in recent years. Unlike Crysis, it does not use texture streaming, per pixel dynamic lighting with dynamic soft shadows, volumetric clouds, and subsurface scattering. The grass density and foliage density is MUCH lower in Half-Life 2, it's textures are considerably lower resolution, static lighting is used, and the shader effects are overall considerably more dated. The physics engine in the Half-Life 2 games is also not as advanced, but that isn't really in the realm of graphics. On a technical level, Crysis is superior to Half-Life 2: Episode 2 in every way. Art direction is another thing and is completely subjective, so I couldn't argue with you on that. Truthfully, art direction is just as important as graphical features, if not more so. An example would be the upcoming title, Mirror's Edge; I played the demo last night on the PS3 and while on a technical level it was not impressive thanks to the static lighting, sky, and average character models, the game still looks amazing in it's own way due to the art direction alone.
did i hear somone say that crysis is "technically" superior to cod4? well, "technically" the cryengine is the most poorly optimized piece of steaming crap i have ever seen in my life, my friend with slied 8800 ultras can't max it out to a steady framerate
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no one will ever be able to max crysis out and play it at over 60 fps, unless they patch the game alot more. its just simply impossible because of their horrid engine.
| shatonmedeek wrote : did i hear somone say that crysis is "technically" superior to cod4? well, "technically" the cryengine is the most poorly optimized piece of steaming crap i have ever seen in my life, my friend with slied 8800 ultras can't max it out to a steady framerate
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Being technically more advanced doesn't mean it is going to run as well. I never said anything about Crysis running as well as Call of Duty 4. Fact is, Crysis has per pixel dynamic soft shadows, subsurface scattering, and other graphical features that aren't used in Call of Duty 4. Until we have another game sporting the same sort of graphical features Crysis supports, we can't really say how poorly optimized it is.
| Heyyou27 wrote : Being technically more advanced doesn't mean it is going to run as well. I never said anything about Crysis running as well as Call of Duty 4. Fact is, Crysis has per pixel dynamic soft shadows, subsurface scattering, and other graphical features that aren't used in Call of Duty 4. Until we have another game sporting the same sort of graphical features Crysis supports, we can't really say how poorly optimized it is. |
um far cry 2? i think thats probably it as far as those features are concerned. you can run far cry 2 on half the system with twice the framerate lol
| shatonmedeek wrote : um far cry 2? i think thats probably it as far as those features are concerned. you can run far cry 2 on half the system with twice the framerate lol |
Nice try, but Far Cry 2's lighting is not nearly as advanced, nor are the character models or shader effects. The first game that will probably really compete with Crysis on a technical level will be Alan Wake, and Rage will pass it whenever it is released. GTA IV has a pretty fancy lighting engine similar to the one in Crysis, and it might end up even close depending on how good the PC port is.
If anyone has a system that can run Crysis, then there's no question IMHO, it is THE most beautiful and graphically advanced title out there... haven't seen anything come close.
Both COD4 and FC2 are beautiful games, and I think COD4 is prob best FPS out in recent memory...
But looking at the first sunrise in Crysis on ultra... wow, talk about take one's breath away......
stand on a cliff, view the horizon from left to right on a Crysis sunset. tell me if it aint beautiful. because when i did that i wish i was holding a beautiful lady's hand and we're drinking wine together..
but cod4's atmosphere is entirely different. especially the one in the chernobyl mission, it made you feel what it wants to make you feel. that that city was once populated and had living people inside it
about gta4, i dont think a theres a console port that can put a q6/8800gt combo to its knees. but i saw a game (forgot the title) that has the same style like GTA4 (city sandbox style) but more applauding graphics.
speaking about rage, this feels like being college student all over. doom3 (bachelors degree) > crysis (masters) > rage (doctors). ive been missing the carmack magic for quite sometime now.
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You're out of you're mind buddy. there's no way a system like that would max out Crysis at any resolution, at least not with playable framerates! you'd be getting what, maybe 12-18 FPS at 1280x1024? MAYBE!?
WHY DO IT!!!!!!!!
I have similar spec with e8400 3.0 GHz P45TS MoBo Radeon 4870 1gb and 4 gigs of ddr2 1066 and play at 1680x1050 with everything maxed including aa and i get min 26 fps in intense fights and average at 33-35. Hmm maybe i just got lucky
Forgot to mention i run it on vista 32 dx10 even tough vista kinda sucks
i think cod 4 looks more photorealistic though, theres just too many colors in crysis
there is only one game that comes close to crysis that gears of war for pc which does have far sharper texture (U3 engine is amazing but cod 4 textures are appalling for all but character models and those are only average) and is very optimized but then you think that crysis renders riduclously huge maps in the most glorious graphics so what if the textures are not as good the post processing (which is what making it look so good) is the best in any game by miles and even half life has to admit that crysis has better facial animation. love it although the lighting can be a bit funny but mods can fix this. BTW the way, check out the group of pictures entitled crysis vs real life you will be astonished.
No! But Call of Duty does have better gameplay. Crysis is just a shallow game with a pretty face.
I'm running Crysis 1680x1050, 22 in. monitor, 2 aa, and everything on high and it looks amazing and very playable. I think I'll crank it up just to see what it looks like. BRB
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