Granite Bay Mobo Reviews

[halkebul]

<A HREF="http://www.ocworkbench.com/ocwbcgi/newspro/viewnews.cgi?newsid1037543306,59661," target="_new">Gigabyte 8INXP</A>

<A HREF="http://www.ocworkbench.com/2002/asus/p4g8x/p4g8xp1.htm" target="_new">ASUS P4G8X</A>

<A HREF="http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=166" target="_new">MSI GNB Max</A>

Very good performance but it makes you wonder what a Pentium4 Northwood would do with dual DDR333 memory. I own a AMD processor and would like to see the underdog AMD do well but I have to admit that I'm very impressed with P4/Dual-DDR.

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[TKH]

Will this Dual DDR266 soon become useless since SiS and VIA is going to launch Dual DDR333 soon?

Plug & Play? How about Plug & Pray!

 

[halkebul]

In the past, intel has released the most stable chipsets for Pentium4. VIA seems to go for speed while sacraficing stability. It is my conjecture that SiS 655 would be the best competition for Granite Bay and potentially the most recommended chipset on this forum.

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[Crashman]

Forget VIA, these boards are illegal, I hope they all melt down. Did I mention VIA screwed me a while back?

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[Crashman]

Hah! DDR266 on the Intel chipset giving the exact same performance as PC1066 when both are in dual channel. Evens things up for DDR. But I expect the SiS chipset to be a little more "performance optimized" and Intel historically has a habit of handicapping their SDRAM boards slightly to make their RDRAM boards look better. Anyway, the SiS 655 supporting DDR333 will give it a little latency advantage over DDR266. Now that Intel is releasing Granit Bay, SiS will have to take up the slack and release their 655 imediately! Looks like things are getting VERY HOT in the motherboard market!

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[lhgpoobaa]

YES!
the choice is Common as much cheap PC2100 or expensive and relatively hard to find PC1066.
good competition.

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[halkebul]

Here's a better review of <A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1748&p=1" target="_new">Granite Bay Motherboards</A>.

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[bikeman]

Despite the fact that I only read the Anandtech-review, I am slightly disappointed ... I had expected more from this configuration ... In the end, now PC1066 and Dual DDR266 offer the same (theoretical) bandwidth, and the DualDDR-solution is using a memory type that has a lower latency ... Would it be the complex motherboard design and it's inherent signal-integrity problems that diminish performance?
Though my dissapointment is not a real surprise ... For months now, Intel was selling the E7500-chipset, also a dual channel DDR-solution, targeted at the workstation market. It wasn't any faster than PC1066 RDRAM either ...
BTW, maybe we can estimate the performance of a 533 MHZ FSB CPU with dual DDR333 memory by looking how a ... Damn, that's not true ... The FSB to Memory-ratio is locked ... What a pitty ...

Greetz,
Bikeman

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[lhgpoobaa]

Hey man... chill
You have to realise you are comparing a well optimised and established board agains a virtual beta product. I think those results are pretty good considering the lack of maturity. Imagine how much more you will be able to squeeze out of it with an optimised chipset, bios and overclocking suite?

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[Karlsbad]

http://www.giga-byte.com/products/8inxp.htm

LOL there's a graphic right at that top of the page that says 845PE. I was about to come post the question "845PE is Granite Bay???" Then I read the paragraph that says E7205. Isn't the release of these boards big news? Why isn't it on the front page of Toms or highlighted on Intel's site? It's not even in their list of desktop chipsets... So being Intel do you think they're stable boards and the first bios's out for them will be solid? Or should a noob wait?

 

[halkebul]

So being Intel do you think they're stable boards and the first bios's out for them will be solid? Or should a noob wait?

Hello. If you're hesitant about being one of the first to use these boards and would feel more comfortable waiting a little to see how things go, hey, that's your prerogative. But if I had the money now to get a P4/Granite_Bay, the fact that Granite Bay is new wouldn't deter me from purcasing it now.

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[wschuerm]

you've said it i'm postponing to buy a new sytem just for granite ay (or sis 655) just because it has the same bandwidth and in theory the same perfomance AND i'll buy good quality DDR 333 or 400 cas 2 and clock down or whatever and when preston comes thats at least one thing i wouldn't have to change immediatly

Remember the time You used 20Mb harddrives

 

[wschuerm]

you've said it i'm postponing to buy a new sytem just for granite ay (or sis 655) just because it has the same bandwidth and in theory the same perfomance AND i'll buy good quality DDR 333 or 400 cas 2 and clock down or whatever and when preston comes thats at least one thing i wouldn't have to change immediatly

Remember the time You used 20Mb harddrives

 

[wschuerm]

look at the assus board you can jumper it to 166 fsb, i sure hope preston 'll be socket 478 (probaly no such luck)

Remember the time You used 20Mb harddrives

 

[halkebul]

Prescot may well require a new socket. I'd be cautious of buying a new processor with a new socket too early. Remember Socket 423?

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[wschuerm]

go and look at extremetech theyve got a GB review those numbers look promising but i think intel had better just left granite bay for what it was and gone to springdale immediatly, higher cost than 850 for generally equal performance.... and look at the 845PE that chipset rocks , using single channel DDR it can keep up pretty good with only slight differences, AMD seems to totally lag behind but trying to match intel would only cot more mony and imo its ok for them as long as they can keep producing cheaper CPU's but for their high end range thats not the case unfortunatly

anyway dual DDR seems to be a great answer to rambus

Remember the time You used 20Mb harddrives

 

[juin]

Boards cost on granite bay from asus cost 250$ euro so 250 $ US or 500 CAD so more that twice the price of a good old Th7-2

Now what to do??

 

[juin]

it seem clear to me that granite bay is built to beat I850E.Wich is still do not.

Now what to do??

 

[wschuerm]

i would say equal remember these are all preproduction test models, the only interresting thing about them is that you can put in pc2700 PC 3200 and reuse that ram when you upgrade to a springdale but i think it isn't worth the cost , buying a PE based chipset would ake the most sence now imo. The differences aren't that great and in 6 months you can also use that same ddr that you put in a PE based mobo. I guess thats why intel is targeting workstation market in stead of mainstream consumer market, does seem like intel is really backing away from rambus it won't be long before the intel door is slammed before rambus's nose.

Remember the time You used 20Mb harddrives

 

[halkebul]

Boards cost on granite bay from Asus cost 250$ euro so 250 $ US or 500 CAD so more that twice the price of a good old Th7-2

Good points, some of the Granite Bay motherboards will be almost $200. $190 for the asus P4G8X and about $175 for the Gigabyte's 8INXP. But most of the boards mentioned so far have been <i>show motherboards</i>. There will be cheaper alternatives for those who don't require all of the extra goodies like Serial ATA RAID and Gigabit LAN. With the low price of DDR266 SDRAM memory, who would choose RDRAM over DDR SDRAM, noone hopefully.

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[wschuerm]

i would go for the GB but then again who would buy pc 2100, i would put in some pc 2700

Remember the time You used 20Mb harddrives

 

[lhgpoobaa]

And whats the price of 2 sticks of 256mb PC1066 compared to 2 sticks of 256mb PC2100 over in the states?

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[halkebul]

And whats the price of 2 sticks of 256mb PC1066 compared to 2 sticks of 256mb PC2100 over in the states?

Just did a search on pricewatch. The lowest price I could find for a 256MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM memory module is $54. $104 was the lowest price for a 256MB PC1066 RDRAM memory module. So, two 256MB PC2100 DDR SDRAM memory modules would cost about the same as one 256MB PC1066 RDRAM memory module.

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[lhgpoobaa]

Hmmm. Very interesting. And the price of a high quality PC2100 memory module? probably around $75 as a rough guess.
Interesting. DDR is so nice.

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[SeaDooXP2000]

kind of a weird question if i bought 2 512 sticks of pc 2100 and ran it dual channel would it be 512 megs combined or 1024 sped up