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$800.00 Budget...Build me a good one!!

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November 27, 2002 5:22:43 AM

I have a friend who wants me to build him a system to replace his current paperweight. I have some ideas in mind but want to get some suggestions from you guys. I'm going to go with an Athlon XP 1800+ Thoroughbred core for $79 on Newegg. I was interested in nForce2 but I'm not sure if DDR2 memory is out yet. The rig will be used for gaming and regular office work. So I need suggestions for vid card, mobo, HDD, ram, 17" CRT monitor and case. CD drives are already purchased. Thnaks for the help in advance!

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a c 435 V Motherboard
November 27, 2002 8:23:47 AM

I have two suggestions. Go with the western digital 80 gig hardrive with 8 meg cache (about $110). Also, I use the ati 8500LE, with 64 megs ddram, and it overclocks about 10% and provides excellent graphics. Newegg has had a few refurbished ones for sale for about $69 recently. New stuff may be out today and tomorrow, so check their website. I also got some nanya ddram (256 megs of pc2700) single sided recently from Fry's for $64.99 that runs well.
November 27, 2002 9:44:06 AM

My recommendations for you:--

Monitor : ViewSonic G75f
Mobo : ASUS A7N8X or Leadtek K7NCR18D
Ram : Kingston PC2700 CL2.5 DDR 2 sticks x 256 MB or 1 stick x 256 MB
Graphics Card : Sapphire ATI Radeon 8500 (not LE) 64 MB
HDD : Western Digital 80 GB (7200 rpm, 8 MB Buffer, ATA-100)
CD-RW : LiteOn 48x/24x/48x
DVD-ROM : LiteOn 16x

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November 27, 2002 4:34:21 PM

So DDR2 is part of the mobo not the actual memory?

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November 27, 2002 6:34:04 PM

I think you are trying to talk about Dual Channel DDR feature of nForce2. When you use two memory modules, nForce2 runs at dual channel mode. When you use one memory module, then it runs in single channel mode. Bandwith of PC2700 DDR in single channel mode is 2.7 GB/s and in dual cannel mode, it's 5.4 GB/s.

Dual channel memory configuration doesn't beneit much in 266 MHz FSB AXP's. If you have plan to get a faster 333 MHz FSB AXP or AXP (Barton core), you must use dual channel mode to get full performance.

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November 27, 2002 7:56:26 PM

Thanks for the explaination. Since I have a low budget I'm sticking with one module for now. This is what I came up with so far:

Processor: AMD Athlon XP 1800+ Thoroughbred core $79.00
Motherboard: Asus A7N8X $153.00
RAM: Kingston PC2700 256MB $75.00
HDD: Western Digital 80GB 8MB cache $115.00
Video Card: Abit Siluro GF4 Ti4200 128MB $151.00
Monitor: Viewsonic G75f 17" Flat Screen $177.00
CD-ROM: Asus 52X $30.00
CD-RW: Plextor 40x12x40 $95.00

All of this adds up to $875 and I still need a case. What would you change about what I chose to come closer to budget. All of my prices are coming from Newegg. Thnaks again for all of the help guys.

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November 27, 2002 8:05:37 PM

take a 64 mb version, in reslutions up to 1024x768 they can even beat the 128 mb version of the same brand (mainly because the 64 mb vrsion uses ram chips with faster acces times)

maybe a maxtor HD, do you need 80GB??? really??? the 8mb version isn't that muh faster..

Remember the time You used 20Mb harddrives
November 27, 2002 8:56:07 PM

BTW, Buy the LiteOn 48x/24x/48x CD-RW. About $35 cheaper than your selected Plextor one and have MUCH faster CD-RW writing speed. Don't worry about quality. LiteOn CD-RW's are very good. I am personally using a LiteOn 40x/12x/48x CD-RW

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November 27, 2002 11:18:04 PM

Wow that is a lot cheaper. Cool I'll go for the Lite-On. What kind of case would you go for? I'm thinking Antec because of thier ease of use but if you have any other suggestions I'll check them out. Wscheurm I'll check out the 64MB video cards also.

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a c 435 V Motherboard
November 27, 2002 11:29:41 PM

Check out the chieftec DH-01W case for $70 shipped at newegg. Comes with 450 watt amd approved power supply.
November 27, 2002 11:35:03 PM

Ok here is my revised list:

Processor: AMD Athlon XP 1800+ $79.00
Motherboard: Asus A7N8X $153.00
RAM: Kingston PC2700 256MB $75.00
Hard Drive: Western Digital 80GB 8MB cache $115.00
Video Card: Abit Geforce 4 Ti4200 64MB $127.00
Monitor: Samsung Syncmaster DynaFlat 17" $142.00
CD-ROM: Asus 52x $30.00
CD-RW: Lite-On 48x24x48 $57.00
Case: Chieftec DH-01W $55.00

This brings me to $778.00 and gives me some breathing room for a case now in which I'll probably choose the Chieftec. With all shipping costs factored in it comes to $880.00 which isn't to much over budget. My friend better be happy becasue he is getting a very nice system for that price. Tell me what you think of this new list.


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November 28, 2002 3:12:49 AM

For $800, you can get a decent 19" monitor and still have room for a gaming machine.

I'm talking Unreal Tournament 2003 at 1024x768@100hz gaming, not Planescape Torment at 640x480@65hz gaming.

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November 28, 2002 10:02:28 AM

Why you are buying a CD-ROM? Spend $15 more, and you will be able buy a LiteOn 16x DVD-ROM. LiteOn DVD-ROM is simply the best among all DVD-ROMs available. No DVD-ROM can touch the performance level that LiteOn offers.

Do you need Dual Lan, Firewire, S-ATA RAID? Then only buy ASUS A7N8X. Otherwise save $35 to $40 by buying the Leadtek K7NCR18D-PRO. It has all necessary features.

For monitor, I strongly recommend ViewSonic G75f. It can display 1280 x 1024 res. without flickering and supports 100 Hz refresh rate at 1024 x 768. You may not need 1280 x 1024 resolution for everyday use, but you may like it for gaming. From my personal experience, ViewSonic monitors are better for eyes compared to Samsung monitors, at same safety rating (A TCO'99 cetrified ViewSonic monitor is better than a TCO'99 certified Samsung monitor). Cheaper ViewSonic solution for you-- ViewSonic G70f, costs $154. It's 1280 x 1024 res. is unusable and can display 1024 x 768 at 85 Hz.

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November 29, 2002 3:10:02 AM

Well the friend I'm building this for is not a heavy gamer but a casual one. So I opted to go lower on the monitor. I'll talk to him about a DVD-ROM drive but I know he isn't going to use the DVD-ROM drive for anything except cd's. He doesn't want to watch DVD's on his computer and I know he doesn't care about extras on DVD's that you can only access through your computer. I'm choosing the A7N8X simply because it has future capabilities and if he needs more speed down the road he can simply get a new proc and more ram.

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November 30, 2002 6:14:44 PM

Plextor 48x/24x/48x is only better than LiteOn 48x/24x/48x in terms of CD-RW reading performance (LiteOn's drive reads CD-RW at 40x). Otherwise LiteOn 48x/24x/48x is equal. And I don't like paying 2x-3x more money for just little faster CD-RW read speed.

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