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Am I screwed in the world of Oblivion?

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March 18, 2008 2:47:24 AM

It all started with an apple.

I saw an apple on the table and I took it. Suddenly someone from behind me screamed: thief! Thief I am not! Back in the world of Warcraft, I was used to enter Clara's house just outside Stormwind and took her apple on the table. What's the big deal?

Soon, one guard entered the house wanted to arrest me. It's just an apple for Uriel Septim's sake. My immediate response was to resist arrest. I wanted to rationalize with the guard that I am no thief. Guess what? He drew his sword and he intended to hack me to death! Surrender my life I shall not. Soon we got into a fight, blood splashed everywhere, and I killed a guard - with remorse.

I fumed in anger and left the house (with the apple). Another guard passed by and demanded me a fine. Com'on?! We fought, he died, and I realized that everywhere I go, guards come after me. I hacked so many guards that the bounty on my head is 70,000 gold. I am just a level 4 lowbie. How on earth do I have that much gold to pay the bounty?! Besides, it was just an apple!

Silly.

My friend told me to start over but I love my orc warrior. I still think that I can be the one who save the world of Oblivion - despite the fact that everyone including children and women want to kill me at sight.

So, please tell me, am I screwed in the world of Oblivion?

PS. On a side note, I am happy that Brotherhood of Darkness is willing to take me in as a new family member. It is good to know that even in this cold cold world of Oblivion, there is love.

PS. I have just started playing Oblivion. What a weird game!

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March 18, 2008 1:39:00 PM

Oh man, that is too rich.
March 18, 2008 3:16:43 PM

You mug. Just go to a guard and go to jail for a bit. you'll lose a few stats, and all your money, but you'll be ok after that.

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March 18, 2008 4:03:05 PM

LOL

It was a cold quiet night in the city, I was sneaking from alley to alley between guard patrols, to arrive at my destination, this old man's house. Blast! The door is locked! But I have lockpicks and start to carefully break the lock, I failed, and suddenly a patrol!

Stop you thief! The guard exclaims.

But I am no thief, I am an assassin! Trained in the deadly arts, but who's this? My friend the captain of the guard!

Let me take care of that fine for you, he says, with great joy, he makes his master happy.

Anyone else get that now, what's his name will pay the fine lol.
March 18, 2008 4:07:54 PM

You could also join the thieves 'guild' and perhaps pay only 35000.

On second thoughts, just go to jail.
March 18, 2008 4:35:22 PM

Sometimes your security stat goes up in jail. But equally well sometimes other stats decrease but you evidently can't afford that fine, Money is a bit strange, I've got a save after The Shivering Isles with around 120+ hours of gameplay and I haven't got that much money, around 270,000 because none of the shop keepers have more than around 1600 gp. I haven't got 100 in mercantile tho so maybe that would allow me to get more money.
March 18, 2008 11:04:14 PM

Umm... My level one was popping guards like it was a zombie apocalypse.... Maybe you just suck at the combat?

Honestly, it might be fun to play through the game as an outcast, but the plot will be forever lost to you. There are several points where the people who you must talk to are friends with the people who want to kill you and you won't have an option to talk with them alone.

Either go to jail for a bit, or explore the world as an outcast outlaw. Either way, have fun.
March 19, 2008 8:10:54 AM

jonisginger said:
You mug. Just go to a guard and go to jail for a bit. you'll lose a few stats, and all your money, but you'll be ok after that.


I really don't want to go to jail. I may have killed a few guards by mistakes but unless they manage to bring me down, I am going to resist jail all the way!

I wonder if I can still finish the main quest with all that I've done so far.
March 19, 2008 8:13:53 AM

stemnin said:
LOL

It was a cold quiet night in the city, I was sneaking from alley to alley between guard patrols, to arrive at my destination, this old man's house. Blast! The door is locked! But I have lockpicks and start to carefully break the lock, I failed, and suddenly a patrol!

Stop you thief! The guard exclaims.

But I am no thief, I am an assassin! Trained in the deadly arts, but who's this? My friend the captain of the guard!

Let me take care of that fine for you, he says, with great joy, he makes his master happy.

Anyone else get that now, what's his name will pay the fine lol.


Oh that reminds me. Last night I was trying to find out the Dark Brotherhood's hideout. The quest said: go basement. So I entered into a chapel, found some locked doors that lead to the basement. I picked the lock and entered and ...

... Gosh, someone was inside calling me trepassing! Hey, I was just lost! She hit me with all the magic, and someone else too. I killed them all. Sigh, they were the magic trainers. Now, I can't even train on my magic.

What a game ...
March 19, 2008 8:16:11 AM

jay_l_a said:
You could also join the thieves 'guild' and perhaps pay only 35000.

On second thoughts, just go to jail.


35,000 gold is still too much! By the time I accumlate that much gold, I would have killed so many guards and town people that the bounty on my head is going to be way more.

I don't want to go to jail. Really. I want to see if I can still complete the main quest.
March 19, 2008 8:29:01 AM

spanner_razor said:
Sometimes your security stat goes up in jail. But equally well sometimes other stats decrease but you evidently can't afford that fine, Money is a bit strange, I've got a save after The Shivering Isles with around 120+ hours of gameplay and I haven't got that much money, around 270,000 because none of the shop keepers have more than around 1600 gp. I haven't got 100 in mercantile tho so maybe that would allow me to get more money.


270,000 gold sounds like a lot to me!

I think I have about 4,000 gold now after selling off the armors of that guard that don't seem to be in short supply.
March 19, 2008 9:03:15 AM

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nice little story but a level 4 defeating one guard, uhm...... no. maybe a level 20 with good armour to take on a few guards if you are lucky level 30 would be better.


I am actually not very good in these sort of games so I set the difficulty level to low. I have to admit it is pretty fun to have a bunch of guards and town people hacking you. Just keep healing!
March 19, 2008 12:42:21 PM

LOL, Dark Brotherhood ain't in a chapel, I can't remember which town, ugh been a while, but it's a semi-abandonned building, go in the front, go downstairs and find some really weird looking door that talks to you.

This is the place
http://www.uesp.net/w/images/Dark_Brotherhood_Shack.JPG

In Cheydinhal.

I think I found the most enjoyment in the brotherhood than any other, you'll get a few laughs (funny ways to kill ppl, like you'd see in cartoons lol).
March 19, 2008 2:29:56 PM

I think you'll have TROUBLE completing the main quest as an outlaw.
Everytime you go to a town, the guards will attack you.
Just go to jail. It doesn't matter. A couple of your stats go down, but if you're only level 4 it doesn't matter.
If you don't want to lose your character, just load from an earlier save.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really quite basic.
March 19, 2008 3:22:44 PM

That is one main aspect of Oblivion that is better the Morrowind, it is harder to pemanently mess up the quests, in Morrowind I had to reload or restart a few games because I could not finish a quest, because I had killed an NPC who was vitle to the story line or I had found and sold an one of a kind item that I needed to bring to someone but I no longer knew who I sold it to (I spend hours checking the different shops I had been to, looking for a spacific Item after I realised that I had already looted the cave were it was hidden) :pt1cable: 
March 19, 2008 6:28:17 PM

You know, there are different difficulty levels right?

I played on easy for the fun of it. You were probably playing on super many hard mode or something. Seriously, the guards were wusses on easy.
March 19, 2008 6:44:29 PM

on the normal diffulty i was killing the guards at level 2...
March 19, 2008 8:51:00 PM

there is a difficulty bar in the options strange - all the way to the left and a lvl 1 can beat a guard no trouble, in the middle, which is where your's probably is, you haven't got a hope in hell (i think the insturctions say they are 6x weaker all the way to the left, and 6x stronger all the way to the right)
March 19, 2008 9:06:26 PM

HAHHAAHAHAHAHA this is so funny.ok i think you might as well go to jail.Althought being an outlaw A.K.A serial killer sound fun.
March 21, 2008 3:30:41 PM

Okay, here is where I am right now. I may have gotten to level 10 or so committed close to 200 murders. The bounty on me now is like ... let's not go there.

The good things are:-

- My armorer skill goes up really fast because I repair every single item I loot from the guards
- My Mercantile skill goes up really fast too because I sell so many items

The bad things are:

- Every town I visit I have to take down the entire town of guards
- I can't loot all the items because I simply can't carry them all at one go!
- I have to fast travel back to my new family (aka Dark Brotherhood) to sell stuff, fast travel back to the city and loot more, and vice versa ... why Dark Brotherhood? Well, at least they open 20x7. Just wake the poor fella up.
- And I realize that I am not playing the quests at all but rather spending time killing guards and selling loots.

The novelty of being an outlaw does get ... tiring, sad to say :( 
March 21, 2008 3:46:02 PM

What I would probably do is first, finish the assassin quest line. Once you have finished that, try to dump everything you can in the assassin's guild and then head back to pay your debt to society. Once you are a free man once more, go back to the guild, pick up your stash, and continue onward.
March 21, 2008 3:47:12 PM

Barring that find a character editor, give yourself just enough money to pay the fine, delete the character editor and go about your merry way. Not sure if your one of those no cheating for any reason purists.
March 23, 2008 5:39:55 AM

infornography42 said:
What I would probably do is first, finish the assassin quest line. Once you have finished that, try to dump everything you can in the assassin's guild and then head back to pay your debt to society. Once you are a free man once more, go back to the guild, pick up your stash, and continue onward.


I thought about that. I even planned to spend all my gold buying all the spells I can before heading to jail.

But then because I have killed some of the magic trainers by ... accident. I am not sure if they will respawn.
March 23, 2008 9:35:45 AM

This is tooooo funny. ROFL LOL LMAO !!!!! Thanks for this, its so funny its like stealing candy from a baby roh roh LOL
March 23, 2008 10:20:14 AM

I don't think anything but guards will respawn in Oblivion. Well, whatever you do, have fun.
March 24, 2008 2:12:16 AM

infornography42 said:
I don't think anything but guards will respawn in Oblivion. Well, whatever you do, have fun.


Oh, I also didn't think so. However, I started to notice something strange. You see, whenever I visit a new town, I also make sure I take down all the guards if possible (and at times accidently chopped some of the town people who attacked me side by side with the guards ... sad to say, town people don't seem to respawn). And every a couple of days or so, I would face another group of guards. Some of them I can only knock them unconcious and have to face them again, again, and again. In every town I have visited, there were corpses of naked men (and women I supposed) piling up - like 20 or 30 of them on one spot. It is actually quite a gruesome scene ... I mean ... why don't all these bodies despawn?! So, to cut a long story short, I think the guards do respawn.

Anyway, thanks! I am certainly having lots of fun! Another headache right now is that the towns don't seem to welcome murderers living in their neighborhoods. Hence, it seems no one wants to sell me a place to live. What am I to do with all the money I raised by selling gears from the guards?!

Oh well ...
March 24, 2008 10:15:32 AM

Hope those bodies dont come back to life, itll be another 24 days LOL
March 24, 2008 10:55:54 AM

The guards that you can't kill are the ones who are important for the main plot line. I'm not sure if all the people are part of the main plot line are immortal, but the guards are at least.
March 28, 2008 2:03:06 PM

Thats one aspect of oblivion I didnt like (but fixed with a mod) was the psycic guards. i kill a guard in skingrad, haul arse to Bruma and the guards already know what I look like (even changing into armor that covers my face) and they know my crime and intend to bring me in dead or alive. Its not like they have telecommunications in Cyrodil and they are covering me slaughtering guards live on Cyrodil news channel 5.

Literally normally i think it should take a week or so for news of your guard and or civilian slaughtery to reach every corner of cyrodil.
March 28, 2008 2:08:14 PM

infornography42 said:
The guards that you can't kill are the ones who are important for the main plot line. I'm not sure if all the people are part of the main plot line are immortal, but the guards are at least.


Any NPC that is absolutely required to finish the main questline, is immortal. I havent seen a mod for it yet, but I thought it would be cool to un immortalize all the previously immortal characters once the main quest is beaten, and add quests to become the lord of each town, and Emporer, in a bloody coup.
March 28, 2008 4:45:02 PM

tsd16 said:
Any NPC that is absolutely required to finish the main questline, is immortal. I havent seen a mod for it yet, but I thought it would be cool to un immortalize all the previously immortal characters once the main quest is beaten, and add quests to become the lord of each town, and Emporer, in a bloody coup.

That would be a fun mod. That would probably be interesting enough for me to start playing again.
March 28, 2008 11:38:51 PM

Bah. 70,000GP? That's nothing lol. I think the highest mine went was 2billion GP, that's with the Nocturnal Cowl of course. I'd have fun taking down the entire Imperial Legion, oh and some Palace guards as well. I'd go and decimate the entire town and move to the next one and repeat, going in a counter-clockwise fashion. By the time I reach the town I started in, all the guards are back alive! Rinse and repeat mate.

There are also times where I couldn't find any more guards to kill. So I start hacking away on my guild members. Bah, I saved the world so it's okay to kill some people. After all, if I didn't save the world, they'd all be dead anyways.
March 31, 2008 2:46:38 AM

tsd16 said:
Thats one aspect of oblivion I didnt like (but fixed with a mod) was the psycic guards. i kill a guard in skingrad, haul arse to Bruma and the guards already know what I look like (even changing into armor that covers my face) and they know my crime and intend to bring me in dead or alive. Its not like they have telecommunications in Cyrodil and they are covering me slaughtering guards live on Cyrodil news channel 5.

Literally normally i think it should take a week or so for news of your guard and or civilian slaughtery to reach every corner of cyrodil.


Ha ha ha ... I am so with you on this one. I think the game would be more fun if there is a chance that the guards or town people don't recognise you (unless you are so infamous). And we should be able to see officials pasting Wanted poster everywhere in town. That would be fun.
March 31, 2008 2:48:58 AM

Evilonigiri said:
Bah. 70,000GP? That's nothing lol. I think the highest mine went was 2billion GP, that's with the Nocturnal Cowl of course. I'd have fun taking down the entire Imperial Legion, oh and some Palace guards as well. I'd go and decimate the entire town and move to the next one and repeat, going in a counter-clockwise fashion. By the time I reach the town I started in, all the guards are back alive! Rinse and repeat mate.

There are also times where I couldn't find any more guards to kill. So I start hacking away on my guild members. Bah, I saved the world so it's okay to kill some people. After all, if I didn't save the world, they'd all be dead anyways.


Oh mine, you are my inspiration!

I have just restarted the game with another not-so evil toon. Perhaps after I save the world, I will hack away everything I see and create my own storyline along the line of corruption ...
April 10, 2008 3:19:36 PM

I remember my first encounter with the world of oblivion. I forgot which one it was, I think it was a demo or something. I started off in some small building and took some stuff off a table, threw some silveware and ran outside. From there I pranced around and followed the side of a mountain. I found a small cave which I entered and was killed by some theif/creature. I tried fighting but for some reason I couldn't tell if I was dealing damage or what so I tried to run away and died. That was about as far as I got with my oblivion experience.
April 25, 2008 1:58:39 PM

infornography42 said:
Barring that find a character editor, give yourself just enough money to pay the fine, delete the character editor and go about your merry way. Not sure if your one of those no cheating for any reason purists.


That's not cheating that's an ''enhancement''. I only cheat on my second play through.(usually)
April 25, 2008 2:01:33 PM

tsd16 said:
Any NPC that is absolutely required to finish the main questline, is immortal. I havent seen a mod for it yet, but I thought it would be cool to un immortalize all the previously immortal characters once the main quest is beaten, and add quests to become the lord of each town, and Emporer, in a bloody coup.


I don't know about becoming the lord of the town but I did find a mod that would let you kill off the immortal people.
June 30, 2008 6:32:59 PM

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nice little story but a level 4 defeating one guard, uhm...... no. maybe a level 20 with good armour to take on a few guards if you are lucky level 30 would be better.


Yeah, your not good at this game at all. If you are a level 30 and still cant beat a guard, then you suck. It is very easy to kill guards when you are a lower level even with the difficulty set higher because the guards level up with you which, in turn, makes them weaker.

Last night i just killed everyone in the chorrol gaurd barracks while trying the kill the draconis family member for the dark brotherhod mission. I am a level 26 and they only took down 1/4 of my health even though they knocked me down twice and when about 10 people where attacking me at once. No potions used either and my magika is glitched at 0(no i did not pick the sign of the atronark which makes me unable to regenerate my magic juice, i am a swordsman).

The guy who said that he killed guards at level 4 is not making it up, he probably killed the whole town, it not that tough. The guy im quoting just suckes at everything he does.
July 3, 2008 3:43:37 AM

bildo123 said:
I remember my first encounter with the world of oblivion. I forgot which one it was, I think it was a demo or something. I started off in some small building and took some stuff off a table, threw some silveware and ran outside. From there I pranced around and followed the side of a mountain. I found a small cave which I entered and was killed by some theif/creature. I tried fighting but for some reason I couldn't tell if I was dealing damage or what so I tried to run away and died. That was about as far as I got with my oblivion experience.


well i see you had a long, devoted experience in Cyrodil.
July 3, 2008 3:37:11 PM

It's pretty easy to kill the whole town when you have %110 chameleon...
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