Empathy for crysis anyone???

"I think people have hit it dead on when they've said that this is because casual and middlecore gamers don't have systems that will run these games, and the hardcore gamers who do don't buy games.

Piracy of PC games is laughably easy. No mod chips needed, just download the game, copy a couple files, and you're there.

Very very hardcore PC gamers don't buy games anymore; I think we'll see games like Crysis getting made to push hardware sales rather than software sales (if that's not what Crysis was meant to do already; it's hard to ignore the fact that the game is intentionally sabotaged to not be fully functional on systems with DX9 cards or Windows XP)."

Its sad but its very true. Most of us hardcore PC gamers tend to uhh, you know. Its too bad and it makes me want to go out and buy a copy of crysis. How many sales, did that game have? Rob and Ben discussed this on a video here. Think of all the layoffs EA will have to make. This economy is really going downhill. Monopolies galore. I mean why purchase something when you can get it for free, and that is the mindset amongst alot of us. UT3 also have horrendous sales out there. What is the deal? I think in the future we PC gamers might even be lucky to getports from the consoles let alone PC exclusives. I would think piracee is hard on the PS3 cuz of bluray and HDDVD for 360. But it is rediculously easy on the PC. I think PC hardware needs to become cheaper to compete with consoles, even though it kinda is already cheaper.

its yourfaultFUCKMYKEYOARD!!!!!

*humps spuddyt's keyboard*

I bought my copy of Crysis (at a 40% discount price).

Moreover, I enjoyed playing it and I do not agree with many people out there that it has pathetic gameplay. It simply requires some inventivity and choices on the account of the player to get the most out of the gameplay, but there is a lot freedom for those who care to look for it.

I played it on a minimum spec machine and DX9, and I'm looking forward to playing it again on a new rig some time this year.

I hope that makes you feel really bad about those pathetic sales of the game, DarthPiggie. So how did you like the game?

I don't pirate games ever; I'll simply play a demo or will stay away from the title all together if I don't want to buy it. Also, the Xbox360 doesn't use HD-DVD for game discs, they use regular DVD9s. If you're going to pirate games on the Xbox360, you simply are not able to use Live with that console which turns people away. On the PS3, developers often bloat their games to take advantage of the Blu-ray disc, and that makes pirating a lot harder as well. For example, Uncharted uses up an entire single layer Blu-ray disc, which is about 25GB.

mods is a pro for PC gaming for sure. maybe one day consoles will see mods.

I wouldn't bother gaming on PC if it weren't for mods.

Crysis is one of the only games I have actually FINISHED. Which to me at least, means it is a quality title. BTW I bought it for the full 50 bucks.

Crysis is dirt cheap now, only like 35 $. Maybe theyre trying to compensate. Yea there will be some great mods for Crysis, including a curious Zelda mod, strange.

I play it on very high @ 1680 x 1050.

I play at the same Res as you, 1280x1024, all on very high. Especially now since CATA 8.3 improved Vista DX10 Crysis performance for all ATI cards by 20%. But when I do all very high there are some areas that tend to get a bit low in the FPS so I keep a few down on high like shadows and water on medium/high.

Its an ok game. After CATA 8.3 came out I had to retry it with higher settings and played up until the tank level. But then I got re-sucked into my TF2 world. Then jumped over the C&C3 Kanes Wrath for a day. BTW I bought all the games. Paid full price for all of them too. I believe in supporting a good thing. If I ever downloaded a game or music, if I like it I will buy the game for the box and the disk. If I don't like it it usually goes bye bye.

Crysis actually has had pretty good sales, EA announced a few months ago its sold over a million copies (probably higher by now). It started off really bad but has since made up some ground. I pirated first and then after knowing that I liked it, I bought it, just I did with The Witcher. I just want to make sure I'm getting a good game.

eh, not me. I'm too addicted to upgrading, benchmarking, etc. The harware side is too fun to ever ditch PC gaming.

i agree that pirating is hurting the industry, but we cant tell someone else not to do it.

I buy all my games because i have a some sort of a BOX collection going on. Pretty impressive to my standards actually.

but to DarthPiggie
I play on 1920x1200 on high with a very-high config file and get around 30fps pretty consistently.

^ He isn't playing Crysis at 19x12 very high with 30 fps on a single gpu. You would be at medium details with a single GPU card and 19x12. Have a look at the 9800GTX at 19x12 all medium and 29 fps average - http://www.hardocp.com/article.htm [...] VzaWFzdA== .

Minimum is a 9800GX2 or SLI setup for that and still not anywhere near 30 fps late in the game. Those are Tri SLI or Quad SLI settings now in Crysis. Many sites don't even bother running 19x12 very high for 9800GX2 Quad SLI testing.

http://www.hardocp.com/article.htm [...] VzaWFzdA==
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/arti [...] VzaWFzdA==

Seriously, my single NX8800GTX gets and average of 32FPS+ in Windows XP-MCE at Very High(XP Tweak). Oh, that's at 1650*1050. I've OC'ed my card slightly but not by that much.

The problem is that the Crysis benchmark tool (the one where you go around the first stage) is misleading. For instance, as soon as I hit the first cutscenes in the game, I drop to 22FPS. I also get and average of 24FPS in the anti-gravity level. The GPU-Benchmark tool is simply misleading.

At first, I figured it was because I OC'ed my card but same applies when I put it back at stock. In fact, it's even worse.

But yeah, it is possible to get a steady 30FPS+ with a single card...but only in the GPU benchmark...not in the game...and especially not in the first cut scenes.

I'll second that.

LOL, I had a conversation with my g/f a few nights ago. She was baffled by me keeping the boxes.

'But they're MY boxes' said I.

I just don't think she understood.

specifically to PAULDH:

i get about 30fps average in crysis at 1920x1200 with all on high with a very high config file
and seriously i dont see much difference from high and very high except the sunbeams

this is a gpu benchmark score, and it completely reflects real game fps. sometimes you are staring at a good portion of the map and get 15-19fps but other times you are staring at a much smaller portion and getting 38-40fps

i have been trying to tell people that the gtx review and most of the other reviews are freaking ****

i have an evga 9800gtx and those are the scores i am getting. of course i do not have any aa turned on but i do have 16x fsaa on and high quality in the nvidia control panel turned on.

to ALEX THE PC GAMER:
the gpu benchmark drops so low in the beginning because you are finally hitting textures instead of blank items. it is loading all those textures at once and taxes the system.

I believe we will start to see more and more games released through services like steam to combat piracy.

PAUL DH
i couldnt give a **** what a website says they get while they are benchmarking.

all i know is that i get around 30fps through most parts of the game, but you are right about one thing:
while playing through CORE again to make sure i was right, i found that i got around 25-26fps average. MORE than enough to play the game.
only in one part did i hit the low teens, all others were low 20's and high 20's. Some parts i even got in the high 30's.

i am being freaking serious when i tell you that i am getting 25-30 average through most parts of the game at 1920x1200 high settings with 16aa and high quality

i am not trying to make my card seem unbelievable badass. i am just telling you what i get on AVERAGE.

I did the hacked very high settings with windows xp and theres no problems(40fps average) with 2x AA at 1680*1050 but thats cuz i hav a e8400+9800gx2+4gigs ram. The only times a lag is when i do something intense like blow up a tank or something although i can't see a major difference between high and hacked very high.