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October 8, 2004 4:12:33 PM

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help!, have backed up all my files/settings, which has totalled 4.46 gig,
however my CD only holds 700 mb and my floppy discs only 2.0 mb. Are there
Cd's/ Floppys that will hold 4.46 gig? if not, how can i make a hard copy?

Any advice much appreciated
Anonymous
October 8, 2004 4:12:34 PM

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Andy,

Most efficient method right now is one of two:
- Backup to a DVD. Use the double-layered drives (e.g. Benq DW1620) which
alleges to hold 4.7GB.
- Backup to another HDD.

--

Regards,
Len Segal, MCP
Microsoft - MVP
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"Andy" <andy@east08575.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ck5smv$fdq$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
> help!, have backed up all my files/settings, which has totalled 4.46 gig,
> however my CD only holds 700 mb and my floppy discs only 2.0 mb. Are
> there Cd's/ Floppys that will hold 4.46 gig? if not, how can i make a
> hard copy?
>
> Any advice much appreciated
>
Anonymous
October 8, 2004 4:12:35 PM

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| "Andy" <andy@east08575.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
| news:ck5smv$fdq$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
| > help!, have backed up all my files/settings, which has totalled 4.46
gig,
| > however my CD only holds 700 mb and my floppy discs only 2.0 mb. Are
| > there Cd's/ Floppys that will hold 4.46 gig? if not, how can i make a
| > hard copy?
| >
| > Any advice much appreciated

"Len Segal" <msn_news@ne_ws.oom> wrote in message
news:o igDO9SrEHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| Andy,
|
| Most efficient method right now is one of two:
| - Backup to a DVD. Use the double-layered drives (e.g. Benq DW1620) which
| alleges to hold 4.7GB.
| - Backup to another HDD.
|
| --
|
| Regards,
| Len Segal, MCP
| Microsoft - MVP
| --------------
| My reply address is intentionally wrong to reduce SPAM Email.
| NOTE: We do not respond to unsolicited Email support questions,
| please post questions in newsgroup.

May I humbly offer a correction to Len's well meant response. Dual layer DVD
has a capacity in the neighborhood of 8.5 GB. Single layer DVDs are 4.7 GB.

http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20040707/

Another consideration is to use a third party backup program that writes to
optical media directly and allows for the spanning of multiple discs.

I personally use and like BackUP MyPC from Stomp which will backup directly
to recordable CD and DVD (as well as most other media.)

http://www.stompsoft.com/backupmypc.html

--
D

I'm not an MVP a VIP nor do I have ESP.
I was just trying to help.
Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or
advice herein.
No warranty is expressed or implied.
Your mileage may vary.
See store for details. :) 

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October 8, 2004 7:04:48 PM

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But i dont have a DVD writer?!

Is floppy disc the best bet?


"Len Segal" <msn_news@ne_ws.oom> wrote in message
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> Andy,
>
> Most efficient method right now is one of two:
> - Backup to a DVD. Use the double-layered drives (e.g. Benq DW1620) which
> alleges to hold 4.7GB.
> - Backup to another HDD.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Len Segal, MCP
> Microsoft - MVP
> --------------
> My reply address is intentionally wrong to reduce SPAM Email.
> NOTE: We do not respond to unsolicited Email support questions,
> please post questions in newsgroup.
>
>
> "Andy" <andy@east08575.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:ck5smv$fdq$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> help!, have backed up all my files/settings, which has totalled 4.46 gig,
>> however my CD only holds 700 mb and my floppy discs only 2.0 mb. Are
>> there Cd's/ Floppys that will hold 4.46 gig? if not, how can i make a
>> hard copy?
>>
>> Any advice much appreciated
>>
>
>
Anonymous
October 8, 2004 7:04:49 PM

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"Andy" <andy@east08575.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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| But i dont have a DVD writer?!
|
| Is floppy disc the best bet?
|

I'd have to say no. 4.6 GB of data uncompressed would require more than
three thousand 1.44 MB floppy discs. :-)

--
D

I'm not an MVP a VIP nor do I have ESP.
I was just trying to help.
Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or
advice herein.
No warranty is expressed or implied.
Your mileage may vary.
See store for details. :) 

Remove shoes to E-mail.
Anonymous
October 8, 2004 9:21:16 PM

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"HillBillyBuddhist" <hillbillybuddhist@shoescolumbus.rr.com> wrote in
message news:o CC4BdUrEHA.556@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> "Andy" <andy@east08575.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:ck66ps$992$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> | But i dont have a DVD writer?!
> |
> | Is floppy disc the best bet?
> |
>
> I'd have to say no. 4.6 GB of data uncompressed would require more than
> three thousand 1.44 MB floppy discs. :-)
>
> --
> D
>
> I'm not an MVP a VIP nor do I have ESP.
> I was just trying to help.
> Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or
> advice herein.
> No warranty is expressed or implied.
> Your mileage may vary.
> See store for details. :) 
>
> Remove shoes to E-mail.


OK what I've done in the past is this
use WinZip to zipup your files then use
the 'split' facility (while the winzip window is still open)
in the options, to split
into 700MB chunks. then burn them to
CD's you'll need about 7 discs.
to reassemble simply place the discs in
your drive and extract, your PC will ask
for the next disc when it needs it.

P.S. why post to so many groups?
Anonymous
October 8, 2004 9:25:31 PM

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A couple of suggestions:
(1) move all person files out of documents and Settings to some obvious
directory like "Andy".

(2) Then, use Ntbackup.exe to backup the much smaller Documents and
Settings, which contains the XP registry, desktop settings, etc.

(3) Separately backup your personal files using windows explorer, or XCOPY
(from a command prompt).

(4) Forget floppies, then are too small, and a rapidly dying technology. I
would NOT recommend ZIP drives, which are like big floppies (100 250, or 750
Meg), since they are more expensive than CDs or DVDs, and thus probably have
a limited future.

(5) CDs are OK, but DVDs are faster to write and much larger.

(6) Think about an external USB (or firewire) hard drive. These are
getting fairly cheap and they come from 40 Gig to 250 Gig (not Meg, Gig). I
find USB2 and firewire sppeds to be almost as fast as internal hard drive
reads and writes.

(7) You might also want to consider a disk imaging program, like Norton
GHOST 9 or Acronis TrueImage 8. Both can backup to external hard drives,
CDs, DVDs, etc.


"Andy" <andy@east08575.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> help!, have backed up all my files/settings, which has totalled 4.46 gig,
> however my CD only holds 700 mb and my floppy discs only 2.0 mb. Are
> there Cd's/ Floppys that will hold 4.46 gig? if not, how can i make a
> hard copy?
>
> Any advice much appreciated
>
Anonymous
October 8, 2004 10:20:20 PM

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Sure (-;

--

Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)


"Andy" <andy@east08575.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ck66ps$992$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> But i dont have a DVD writer?!
>
> Is floppy disc the best bet?
>
>
> "Len Segal" <msn_news@ne_ws.oom> wrote in message
> news:o igDO9SrEHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Andy,
>>
>> Most efficient method right now is one of two:
>> - Backup to a DVD. Use the double-layered drives (e.g. Benq DW1620) which
>> alleges to hold 4.7GB.
>> - Backup to another HDD.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>> Len Segal, MCP
>> Microsoft - MVP
>> --------------
>> My reply address is intentionally wrong to reduce SPAM Email.
>> NOTE: We do not respond to unsolicited Email support questions,
>> please post questions in newsgroup.
>>
>>
>> "Andy" <andy@east08575.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:ck5smv$fdq$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>> help!, have backed up all my files/settings, which has totalled 4.46
>>> gig, however my CD only holds 700 mb and my floppy discs only 2.0 mb.
>>> Are there Cd's/ Floppys that will hold 4.46 gig? if not, how can i make
>>> a hard copy?
>>>
>>> Any advice much appreciated
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
October 8, 2004 10:51:02 PM

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D,

Correction duly noted! Interesting that the 4.7GB figure came from Benq's
product spec info on that drive that claims to be Double Layered! Oh well!
<g>

--

Regards,
Len Segal, MCP
Microsoft - MVP
--------------
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NOTE: We do not respond to unsolicited Email support questions,
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"HillBillyBuddhist" <hillbillybuddhist@shoescolumbus.rr.com> wrote in
message news:edpP5XTrEHA.2764@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>| "Andy" <andy@east08575.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> | news:ck5smv$fdq$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
> | > help!, have backed up all my files/settings, which has totalled 4.46
> gig,
> | > however my CD only holds 700 mb and my floppy discs only 2.0 mb. Are
> | > there Cd's/ Floppys that will hold 4.46 gig? if not, how can i make a
> | > hard copy?
> | >
> | > Any advice much appreciated
>
> "Len Segal" <msn_news@ne_ws.oom> wrote in message
> news:o igDO9SrEHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | Andy,
> |
> | Most efficient method right now is one of two:
> | - Backup to a DVD. Use the double-layered drives (e.g. Benq DW1620)
> which
> | alleges to hold 4.7GB.
> | - Backup to another HDD.
> |
> | --
> |
> | Regards,
> | Len Segal, MCP
> | Microsoft - MVP
> | --------------
> | My reply address is intentionally wrong to reduce SPAM Email.
> | NOTE: We do not respond to unsolicited Email support questions,
> | please post questions in newsgroup.
>
> May I humbly offer a correction to Len's well meant response. Dual layer
> DVD
> has a capacity in the neighborhood of 8.5 GB. Single layer DVDs are 4.7
> GB.
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20040707/
>
> Another consideration is to use a third party backup program that writes
> to
> optical media directly and allows for the spanning of multiple discs.
>
> I personally use and like BackUP MyPC from Stomp which will backup
> directly
> to recordable CD and DVD (as well as most other media.)
>
> http://www.stompsoft.com/backupmypc.html
>
> --
> D
>
> I'm not an MVP a VIP nor do I have ESP.
> I was just trying to help.
> Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or
> advice herein.
> No warranty is expressed or implied.
> Your mileage may vary.
> See store for details. :) 
>
> Remove shoes to E-mail.
>
>
Anonymous
October 8, 2004 10:55:05 PM

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Surely you jest! Even if you didn't mind backing up to >3K floppies, it
would probably take you >40 hours to do it! And 3K x $0.10 = $300 for a
single backup! Not very money efficient either.

Investing $80-90 for a Double-Layered DVD writer is a good investment in
both time and safety! I just paid $50 for a Single-Layered DVD+-RW drive
(after rebates) a week ago. Short money for a solution.

--

Regards,
Len Segal, MCP
Microsoft - MVP
--------------
My reply address is intentionally wrong to reduce SPAM Email.
NOTE: We do not respond to unsolicited Email support questions,
please post questions in newsgroup.


"Andy" <andy@east08575.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ck66ps$992$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
> But i dont have a DVD writer?!
>
> Is floppy disc the best bet?
>
>
> "Len Segal" <msn_news@ne_ws.oom> wrote in message
> news:o igDO9SrEHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Andy,
>>
>> Most efficient method right now is one of two:
>> - Backup to a DVD. Use the double-layered drives (e.g. Benq DW1620) which
>> alleges to hold 4.7GB.
>> - Backup to another HDD.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>> Len Segal, MCP
>> Microsoft - MVP
>> --------------
>> My reply address is intentionally wrong to reduce SPAM Email.
>> NOTE: We do not respond to unsolicited Email support questions,
>> please post questions in newsgroup.
>>
>>
>> "Andy" <andy@east08575.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:ck5smv$fdq$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>> help!, have backed up all my files/settings, which has totalled 4.46
>>> gig, however my CD only holds 700 mb and my floppy discs only 2.0 mb.
>>> Are there Cd's/ Floppys that will hold 4.46 gig? if not, how can i make
>>> a hard copy?
>>>
>>> Any advice much appreciated
Anonymous
October 10, 2004 1:43:08 AM

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> P.S. why post to so many groups?

Three related newsgroups is not excessive cross-posting, although
security_admin is streaching the related part. 8-)
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Anonymous
October 10, 2004 7:49:03 AM

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Hi Andy

How did you back up your files? A backup of 4.46 GB is very huge.
Maybe you should try imaging your hard drive with Norton Ghost - it
produces a much smaller backup.

If you really want to back up the 4.46 GB, then get an external hard
drive - it's the best option.

Gary Hendricks
www.baby-product-guide.com

"Andy" <andy@east08575.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<ck5smv$fdq$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> help!, have backed up all my files/settings, which has totalled 4.46 gig,
> however my CD only holds 700 mb and my floppy discs only 2.0 mb. Are there
> Cd's/ Floppys that will hold 4.46 gig? if not, how can i make a hard copy?
>
> Any advice much appreciated
Anonymous
April 1, 2005 1:45:03 PM

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As I have posted on other backup related posts....why can't Microsoft simply
state there utilty does not work with anything but hard drives and tape
drives which have enough capacity to equal what you are backing up !!!!!
Heres an excerpt from the help files in Backup Xp :

"Select storage media or file location for backed-up data
Backup provides two options for selecting storage media:
You can back up your data to a file on a storage device. A storage device
can be a hard disk, a Zip disk, or any type of removable or nonremovable
media to which you can save a file. This option is always available.
You can back up your data to a tape device. This option is available only if
you have a tape device installed on your computer or connected to it. If you
back up data to a tape device, the media will be managed by Removable
Storage."
Boy, talk about leaving a gaping hole in there instructions...no wonder
Microsoft has a billion posts with problems...imagine what software
developers are going through !

"Gary Hendricks" wrote:

> Hi Andy
>
> How did you back up your files? A backup of 4.46 GB is very huge.
> Maybe you should try imaging your hard drive with Norton Ghost - it
> produces a much smaller backup.
>
> If you really want to back up the 4.46 GB, then get an external hard
> drive - it's the best option.
>
> Gary Hendricks
> www.baby-product-guide.com
>
> "Andy" <andy@east08575.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<ck5smv$fdq$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> > help!, have backed up all my files/settings, which has totalled 4.46 gig,
> > however my CD only holds 700 mb and my floppy discs only 2.0 mb. Are there
> > Cd's/ Floppys that will hold 4.46 gig? if not, how can i make a hard copy?
> >
> > Any advice much appreciated
>
Anonymous
April 2, 2005 10:05:57 AM

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On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:45:03 -0800, Tim Lahr wrote:

> As I have posted on other backup related posts....why can't Microsoft simply
> state there utilty does not work with anything but hard drives and tape
> drives which have enough capacity to equal what you are backing up !!!!!

This stipulation exists with all backup programs UNLESS they include (and
the user selects to use) an option to compress the backed up data.

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Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User
April 4, 2005 8:46:53 AM

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roxio's cd creator 6 (or later) will allow you to do it.

"Tim Lahr" <TimLahr@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:D 19F3C89-1E30-49A0-AC52-1D5371D3E262@microsoft.com...
As I have posted on other backup related posts....why can't Microsoft simply
state there utilty does not work with anything but hard drives and tape
drives which have enough capacity to equal what you are backing up !!!!!
Heres an excerpt from the help files in Backup Xp :

"Select storage media or file location for backed-up data
Backup provides two options for selecting storage media:
You can back up your data to a file on a storage device. A storage device
can be a hard disk, a Zip disk, or any type of removable or nonremovable
media to which you can save a file. This option is always available.
You can back up your data to a tape device. This option is available only if
you have a tape device installed on your computer or connected to it. If you
back up data to a tape device, the media will be managed by Removable
Storage."
Boy, talk about leaving a gaping hole in there instructions...no wonder
Microsoft has a billion posts with problems...imagine what software
developers are going through !

"Gary Hendricks" wrote:

> Hi Andy
>
> How did you back up your files? A backup of 4.46 GB is very huge.
> Maybe you should try imaging your hard drive with Norton Ghost - it
> produces a much smaller backup.
>
> If you really want to back up the 4.46 GB, then get an external hard
> drive - it's the best option.
>
> Gary Hendricks
> www.baby-product-guide.com
>
> "Andy" <andy@east08575.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:<ck5smv$fdq$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>...
> > help!, have backed up all my files/settings, which has totalled 4.46
> > gig,
> > however my CD only holds 700 mb and my floppy discs only 2.0 mb. Are
> > there
> > Cd's/ Floppys that will hold 4.46 gig? if not, how can i make a hard
> > copy?
> >
> > Any advice much appreciated
>
!