Need help, building a system

[rottenmilk2go]

Hey guys, I have been a long time reader of THG and just now found about the forums (ya i know...) Im building my first system and getting the parts off newegg.com I was wondering, does the Motherboard box come with Ribbon cables and IDE (for HD) cables already? Or do I need to purchase them seperately. The site is kind of vague about this. But here is my selection. Im a avid overclocker of Compaqs (ya right) but i have got my old Compaq here to last me 4 years in good shape. Buts its time I got a new one. So I need to know if the motherboard comes with the HD, CD, and Floppy cables. Thanks for you help

Also here is my shopping cart. See any conflicts? Anything I should change? Try to get me to buy an AMD? Im open to suggestions. Thanks




Samsung CDRW Model SW-248BEA 48x16x48 - OEM
Specifications:
Data Transfer Rate Record: 48X (7,200 KB/sec)
Rewrite: 16X (2,400 KB/sec) Read: 48X (7,200KB/sec)
Buffer Memory 8MB
Interface EIDE/ATAPI
Average Access Time 110ms
Size: 148.2 x 42 x 184
OEM Package (see pics for details) more info>
N82E16827151014 $65.00
$65.00

Fan / Cooling Device - VGA / RAM / Motherboard Chip Set
All COPPER Heatspreader / Heatsink for DDR and SD RAM, WHOLE COPPER CONSTRUCTION HIGH CONDUCTIVTY THERMAL PAD SPRING CLIP FOR EASY INSTALLATION. With easy spring chips, with double-side pad. Retail. more info>
N82E16835116007 $12.00
$12.00

Floppy Drives
PANASONIC 1.44 MB 3.5 INCH HIGH DENSITY FLOPPY DISK DRIVE, MODEL # JU-257A-827P - OEM, DRIVE ONLY High reliability with aluminium diecast base. Long life with direct drive spindle motor
Specifications:
Color: WHITE Bezel -
Connectors: 34 Pin Standard Floppy Connector
Maximum Formated Media 1.44 MB HD
One Year Warranty more info>
N82E16821103115 $9.00
$9.00

Hard Drives
WD WESTERN DIGITAL 40GB 7200RPM EIDE HARD DRIVE MODEL # WD400JB - OEM, DRIVE ONLY
Specifications:
Size: 40 Gigabytes
Interface: IDE ULTRA ATA133
Seek time: 10.9 ms
RPM:7200
Cache 8MB
OEM(Drive alone) 3 Year Manufacturer Warranty more info>
N82E16822144126 $87.00
$87.00

Memory (System Memory)
KINGMAX Memory 512MB PC2700 DDR RAM Model# MPMC22D-38X -OEM
Specifications:
Type: DDR333
Capacity: 512MB
Speed: PC-2700
Model#: MPMC22D-38X more info>
N82E16820156005 $120.00
$120.00

Modems
US Robotics USR5610B 56K V.92 Internal PCI Performance Pro FaxModem Data/Fax Only (No Voice) - RETAIL Controller-based for superior performance. ControlCenter for optimum modem performance. Internet Call Notification (ICN) puts you in charge of incoming calls. This modem supports Linux and Windows, so it will work with a wide range of business applications and games. And speaking of games, you can switch the Performance Pro Modem into gaming mode any time you’re ready for some online competition. more info>
N82E16825104131 $68.00
$68.00

Motherboards - Intel
MSI Motherboard for Intel Processors Model 648 Max-L MS-6585-L (6585-020) RETAIL
Specifications:
Supported CPU: Intel P4 478 pin supports 400/533MHz FSB
Chipset: SIS648 / SIS963
FSB: 400/533MHz
RAM:3xDDR DDR200/266/333 184-pin unbuffered Max 3GB
IDE:2xUltra DMA66/100/133 Up to 4 Devices
Slots: 6xPCI, 1AGP(8x/4x)
Ports:1xFDD,2xCOM,6xUSB 2.0
Onboard Audio: AC97 6-channel audio
Onboard LAN more info>
N82E16813130356 $102.00
$102.00
Processors

►Hot Item! Intel Pentium 4 2.4BGHz 512K 533MHz CPU Northwood P478 Processor Retail Box
Specifications:
CPU: Pentium 4 P4 2.4BGHz Northwood
Type: Northwood
Cache: 512K
BUS: 533MHz
Socket: P4 478
Retail Box (with Heatsink and fan) more info>
N82E16819116139 $192.00
$192.00

Video Cards
EVGA Nvidia GF4 TI4200 64MB Video Card RETAIL BOX.
Part#64-A4-NV75-S1
Specifications:
Res: Max 2048 x 1536 at 75Hz
GPU:256-bit GeForce4 Ti (250MHz clock)
MEM: 64MB 4ns 128-bit DDR Memory (220-440MHz effective)
Memory Bandwidth: 8 GB/Sec.
Bus: AGP 4X with Fast Writes and Texturing support
Ports: PC 99 DB-15 analog connector (VESA DDC2B + DPMS)
Retail Box (Comes with Drivers and User guide; see pic) more info>


Oh ya. Another question. What is Dual DDR slots? Does this motherboard have them? SShould I get 2 sticks of 512 (or 256) if so?

Gosh some of this stuff is confusing to a hardware newbie...hehe

 

[Spitfire_x86]

My recommendations for you:-

CPU: Athlon XP 2400+ retail
Mobo: ASUS A7N8X (non-deluxe)
Ram: Kingston PC2700 CL2.5 DDR 2 stick x 256 MB
Graphics Card: MSI GeForce4 Ti4200 64MB
CD-RW: LiteOn 48x/24x/48x

This setup is going to outperform your 2.4 GHz P4 + SiS 648 setup. If you can afford, buy AXP 2600+ (333 MHz FSB)

Let us know what is the Best Chipset of 2002 in your eye.<A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=26410#26410" target="_new"> Click </A>

 

[Scout]

Yes, retail motherboards come with floppy cable, plus an 80 pin IDE cable for your hard drive and a 40 pin IDE cable for your optical drive.

As for your choices, I'd recommend going with an Intel 845 PE chipset board instead of the SiS. Either way, these boards do not offer dual DDR... Right now the nForce2 boards are the only ones that are available that do. (Wait a while and you'll be able to buy dual DDR for the P4)So you're OK with just one 512 stick of RAM.

The nice thing about your 2.4 GHz. P4 is it likely will overclock quite well, probably to somewhere close to 2.9 GHz. especially on the PE chipset which lets you keep your AGP and PCI busses in spec while pushing the FSB. I'm not sure if your SiS chipset will let you do that.



Scout
700 Mflops in SETI!

 

[rottenmilk2go]

Wow thanks alot guys. No I have the money for a Pentium system. Althought If I were on a tight budget I would definately settle with an AMD 2400 or 2200 and the Nforce2 board is great (Without the Integrated video) That would definately be my AMD selection (A7n8X asus MB) But im gonna P4 for now. I only have a 300 watt ATX-PS in my new case anyway.

 

[Mongre]

since you say you're not on a tight budget take a look at the Albatron Gforce4 Ti4600 instead of that 4200, it's a lot faster, 128MB, and supposedly an overclockers dream too. I got one about 2 months ago for $200 and I couldn't be happier! or even the albatron ti4200P turbo which is very affordable and also extremely overclockable (I read a review that clocked it to ti4600 speeds somewhere without modifications to the card)

 

[Spitfire_x86]

For DVD-ROM, LiteOn 16x is the best buy. It outperforms all other DVD-ROMs in DVD-Ripping and DAE.

Let us know what is the Best Chipset of 2002 in your eye.<A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/community/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=26410#26410" target="_new"> Click </A>

 

[rottenmilk2go]

The Ti4200 was more inline with what I wanted. Im not a serouis gamer, but I want it to be there. I made my switch to the Golden Sampler (OCer wet dream) and every place ive read says the 64mb version outdoes the 128. So im stickin with the 64mb ti4200. Ive changed my mobo. I dont know alot about chipsets NB, or SB stuff like that. But ill take you guys word for it.

 

[rottenmilk2go]

ok thanks alot guys.

Just a few more questions (I promise)

What is Ultra ATA133, will it work with a U/ATA100/66 mobo? etc

And what exactly does the AGP X 8 mean? Will a video card for an AGP 4x work with it? Or do I need to get the 4x 8x...gah

oh and when it says PC2700 for the mobo. Can I use PC2100?

This is kind of annoying for a noob who just got interested in hardware a month ago.

 

[fiask0]

I have a msi ti4200 128ddr, video in/out, card i purchased from newegg.com . It runs great, and it's only about 150 dollars. I like nvidia for their awesome drivers.

 

[Booky]

An HD with ATA 133 will work on MB that has a ATA 100 controller, but it will only run at ATA 100. Same goes for the AGP8x, a video card that supports 8x will work on a 4x agp slot but thats what it will run at as well. And yes you can use PC2100 on a mb that supports PC2700, but why would ya want to? PC2700 not much more that 2100, and the new Athlon chips FSB is 333MHz (2.7MB/s ie PC2700)

Anything else?

Oppss, jsut seen you want a Intel chip. I would get two sticks of PC2100 (256MB or 512MB each) and run them in a Granite Bay motherboard. You need two for dual channel to kick in PC2100 is the fastest it lists as supported.

Booky

Crap, all the good ones are already taken.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Booky on 01/01/03 02:51 AM.</EM></FONT></P>