Article by Kevin Parrish
Crytek announced this week that the official Crysis 1.3 patch was cancelled, which disappointed fans. But the developer had another surprise that should get gamers excited: Crysis Warhead.
http://www.tomsgames.com/us/2008/06/04/crysis_warhead/
Blaming piracy for their low sales expectations was wrong. Did piracy affect sales? Who knows, I'm sure it did to some extent and they're not the only ones who have to deal with it. Other games without copy protection sell well. Why is that? Why does one game like Call of Duty 4 sell really well(even though it's been pirated to hell) while Crysis only sells one million. The biggest factor to me is that the system requirements for the game were (and still are) just too high for the average computer. On top of the line ,cutting edge hardware the game still struggles even with "high" settings and AA at 4x. Word of mouth gets around fast and people hear "Crysis was running slow on my Q6000 with a 8800GTX" and they think,what hope does my system have? If Crytek wants to maximize profits they should have put more thought into scalability with the CryEngine2. The source engine scales extremely well. You can even play source games on 2 generations old hardware. Also the story is the same. The ever popular aliens are comming to destroy earth plot. It looks awsome and was fun for a few weeks,but there's not much replay factor. Throw in Sh*tty multiplayer and you have a above average game but that's it.
So to still sell 1 Million copies thus far is very good in my opinion. Of course as tech catches up with Crysis it will sell more too. After all it's "thee" benchmark for punishing your PC. Also allying yourself with EA certainly can't help. I almost never buy EA games because of their attitude as company. I did pick up Crysis and even recently Mass Effect. I don't think ME counts so much though because Bioware has been one of my favorite studios for quite some time, they were recently aquired by EA so they haven't fully corrupted them yet. Other than those though I pretty much stay away from EA as much as possible.
Crytek has been drinking too much of their own Cool Aid. Crysis may have cost a boatload of money to produce but it's just not a "great" game. I'm not even that interested in them finishing the story with future games. Them blaming piracy instead of themselves has really just put me off even more.
"If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to contact us."
Now they claim to give a damn what the "community" thinks.
I'm not buying it. I'm not buying SecureROM either, which is part of the purchase price with these programs.
Maybe it won't suck on the console, but with BD+ on the PS3, they can probably come up with a rootkit-like application to make themselves happy.
EA released the official information this morning. Looks like Crysis Warhead is an exclusive PC title (so much for all that non-PC exclusive crap) using the CryENGINE 2 engine. However, they use "parallel story to Crysis" so it doesn't sound like an actual sequel.
| Quote : EA and Crytek Announce Development of Crysis Warhead
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Here's something else I found concerning CryENGINE 2's cross platform ability:
| Quote : Jan 29, 2008 13:00 ET
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| jalek wrote : "If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to contact us."
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Due to the nature and size of PS3 titles, they currently are unavailable for download on any sites that I know of. For reference, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune uses nearly all 25GBs of it's single layer Blu-ray disc. Seeing as most developers are encouraged to leave data uncompressed, most PS3 games are considerably larger than their Xbox360 counterparts. To make things more difficult, Blu-ray writers are expensive, and few and far between. I don't believe anyone has even bothered trying to pirate or host PS3 games due to their size and nature, as well as the fact that they would have to be loaded to the hard drive, and even then Sony likely has other copyright protection in place that would require modified firmware, none of which currently exists for this purpose.
Hopefully this latest version of Crysis runs a lot better than the last installment.
there many up for download, (about 150, they run with out a mod chip )
the problem is that no one has a ps3 so no one will pirate something for a console that they don't have
Warhead sounds like it will be great! Psycho was my favourite character from Crysis and should be fun to play as him. I wonder if the 3rd in the trilogy will be based around Prophet's experiences? Awesome character and alot of mystery surrounding all that stuff with the thing and the things!!! (trying not to include spoilers. Anyone who played will know what I mean)
never judge a game by it's cover or title.
many of the lowest rated games have normal or cool names
and good artwork on the cover
It's not so much the size of the titles with the PS3 but the fact that there's no hacked firmware. Rest assured though that there are many people working on that. Most PS3 titles are your standard 4-8GB in size. I doubt a 25GB game will deter people from downloading PS3 games if a hacked firmware does show up.
theres an exploit for the PS3, a boot cd that allows i to run the downloaded games (some of them are generally blocked by updates, but they make new ones)
my friend (game name VOLATILE (a huge crysis fan)) told me that this is an expansion pack not the second part of the trilogy.
that would make sense because if we are going to play psycho we will be playing through the same events.
Crysis: Warhead is more than likely going to be their evaluation for whether or not it is worth making a Crysis 2; if the piracy is as bad as they claim, it will be quite evident when this expansion pack launches.
There won't be an excuse anymore that hardware isn't available for the game, because it most certainly will be (really there has been, but thats aside the point I guess.)
So, if Warhead doesn't make at least decent sales - I wouldn't expect a Crysis 2 to materialize.
Now, if Crytek is smart (which they may or may not be), they will release Crysis:Warhead bundled WITH Crysis on the same disc. There will be no additional production costs and it should help them promote the product a lot.
dont worry crysis 2 will be worth making
the fanbase is pretty big already
Maybe by time CW comes out there will be a GPU that can run it.....?
I hope Cevat can stop being a whiney bitch long enough to consider using Steam or an equivalent service to distribute and control piracy of the game.
Also, I hope this time he learns from the mistake of leading everyone to believe (unintentionally perhaps) that it is virtually impossible to run without a supercomputer, because that is complete bs. I ran it fine on a mid range PC (7900gs and E6300) shortly after it came out. Sure it wasn't on all high settings, but it was good enough to look and play great! Do you really need to max out a game to consider it playable? It's people with attitudes like Spinacheater (above) that put people off as they assume that you need to spend thousands of dollars/pounds to actually have it run.
| SpinachEater wrote : Maybe by time CW comes out there will be a GPU that can run it.....? |
Isn't that comment getting a little old ?
| mothhive wrote : I hope Cevat can stop being a whiney bitch long enough to consider using Steam or an equivalent service to distribute and control piracy of the game.
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Actually, Mothhive, I think Crytek and Yerli did the exact opposite. They've said all along that Crysis was intended to run on two-year old systems (as well as systems built two years from now). And they've touted that company line throughout Crysis' development, promotion and release to try to let people know that their older hardware could run the game. It would be a horrible strategy for a developer to claim that its PC game needs the latest and most expensive hardware. Now, I take issue with Crytek's claim because I don't believe Crysis scales as well as they claimed. But that's beside the point.
Also, you mention Steam and asked why doesn't Cevat just STFU and use it to prevent piracy. Well, there's an excellent reason -- they can't because the publisher, not the developer, controls how the game goes to market. Hence, EA calls the shots, and since EA has its own digital distribution system (which no one uses, apparently) and doesn't have any games currently offered on Steam, that should clear the matter up. A lot of people in previous discussions, including our ST video on Crytek blaming piracy, have gotten pissed off at the developer for those comments and said, hey, just use Steam. I'm telling you, it's not that easy. I wish developers had more control over their product in the games biz. They don't, and that's the harsh reality.
Didn't intel/nvidia pay 6 and 4$ million to crytek/ea, they also answered alot of the interviews i've seen on fansites like incrysis.. our latest hardware blah blah blah..
I have a Q6600 with 8800GTS 320, I haft to play the game mostly on medium to get a smooth framerate, even at those settings, the game looks 10x better than Battlefield on high, but ain't as fun (multiplayer).
Well I can't wait to finish the story, here's to hoping it doesn't have a halo 2 ending. (can we call that the new benchmark for bad endings?)
And hey! It is coming this fall, jebus, SC2, Fallout 3, if Duke Nukem F was announced for this fall, i'd be having nerdy wet dreams.

Crysis is a very fun game, the most fun SP campaign I played last year. This is definitely good news!
Although, EA will certainly curb my enthusiasm if they go with Mass Effect style DRM (3 installs, etc) on this and other games they publish the rest of the year.
Regardless of that for the moment though, anyone else feeling a sort of PC resurgence?
2008 already looked like a very good year (Spore, Fallout 3, STALKER CS, etc, etc, etc), now we have Crysis Warhead (exclusive) announced along with other perhaps unexpected recent announcements, which if nothing else seem to indicate the PC is not lacking in attention: Saints Row 2, Burnout Paradise, Street Fighter 4, the PC is the lead dev platform for Resident Evil 5 (no PC version announced though), etc.
Im playing crysis on an E7200 with a G92 8800 GTS and for my native resolution of 1440x900 every setting on high and 2x AA its perfect i had a lot of fun and it looks really good even though 30-40 Fps arent record breaking but i didnt care much .
Isn't posting Crysis settings getting a little hackneyed?
Im excited both about the game and the fact that I will most likely have a GTX 280 for this next Crysis go around! lol
Best,
3Ball
| SpinachEater wrote : Maybe by time CW comes out there will be a GPU that can run it.....? |
I'm running it fine with SLI 8800 GT very high - i've played through it twice with SLI 8800 GT and once with single 8800 GT with different settings..
On medium settings with high shaders/texture detail on a single 8800 GT and it was still better looking than any other game on the market.
People criticize Crysis way too much based on graphics performance - if they can't max out graphics settings on a ati 3870 or a 9600 GT its a BAD GAME!!!! lol
The engine was designed with the future in mind - its still an excellent looking game even without the graphics settings maxed out and its almost kind of silly that people always snipe at the graphics.
If anything is worth sniping at, snipe at the bloody AI. Long range combat against enemies from cover or during night with silencers almost trivializes the game difficulty even on Delta. When enemies are being shot at and KNOW they are being shot at they should logically go for cover more than they do :S
I would love to see a mod that disables silencers on everything but the pistol and doubles the energy consumption of stealth powerup - that would significantly ramp the difficulty up =D
| ovaltineplease wrote : I would love to see a mod that disables silencers on everything but the pistol and doubles the energy consumption of stealth powerup - that would significantly ramp the difficulty up =D |
Just dont put the silencer on. lol
Best,
3Ball
| 3Ball wrote : Just dont put the silencer on. lol
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lol, true enough I guess
DUH DUH
Well I guess the temptation is always there ya know
Maybe the next time I do play through i'll do that actually - no cloak and no silencers on anything but pistol, that might actually be pretty fun.
| ovaltineplease wrote : lol, true enough I guess
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Haha yea I have beatin it on the 3 lower difficulties and plan on playin it again once I get my 9900GTX and install vista to run everything all the way up, but I like to use the cloak and everything else. I will be playing it on the hardest difficulty this time around. I dont usually play to many single player games multiple time, nor do I ever play the hardest difficulty, but I love this game. I dont care about how the AI is as long as it moves, and shoots back at me (when they can see me). I like for my games to be easy as I care more about the story and how the game feels in SP. I prefer my "challenges" to come on the MP side of the game.
Best,
3Ball
aw yea ya know what I don't really play multiplayer games too much anymore cause they keep me up too late and i'm all burnt out if I don't get enough sleep =P I used to love playing online but I get bad with it I can piss away a whole night if I do too much heh.
I've been having a lot of fun with max strength, finding random objects to throw and kill the soldiers is a gas for sure. I mean you'd be surprised how many things there is to kill people with really
Plus the whole knocking down walls and stuff around enemies in huts until the building damage squishes them lol.
I almost think i've played the game too much since I bought it.
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I know chief. I wasn't judging it by the graphics...just being sarcastic. I like that it challenges GPUs. It will help make them better in the future.
well thats fair
Hopefully it gets adopted more widely when gtx 280 and 4870 x2 hit the market - look at how widely adopted UE3 is compared to Cryengine2 yet Unreal Tournament 3 i've heard had even worse sales than Crysis
But all kinds of games use UE3 just cause its got some great effects even if its an expensive engine to license; so in a way i'd imagine they made some of their money back that way
| STEMNIN wrote : Didn't intel/nvidia pay 6 and 4$ million to crytek/ea, they also answered alot of the interviews i've seen on fansites like incrysis.. our latest hardware blah blah blah.. I have a Q6600 with 8800GTS 320, I haft to play the game mostly on medium to get a smooth framerate, even at those settings, the game looks 10x better than Battlefield on high, but ain't as fun (multiplayer). Well I can't wait to finish the story, here's to hoping it doesn't have a halo 2 ending. (can we call that the new benchmark for bad endings?) And hey! It is coming this fall, jebus, SC2, Fallout 3, if Duke Nukem F was announced for this fall, i'd be having nerdy wet dreams. |
Duke Nukem Forever was anounced for the fall...of 1999.
| ovaltineplease wrote : well thats fair |
I would expect many people to start adopting ID Soft's Tech Engine 5 soon if it is as scalable, and easy to program with across all platforms as it is claimed to be. It will save alot of money and allow good visuals without the poor performance of a typical port. Wont that be nice! lol
Best,
3Ball
Here's a little more info...
http://www.extremetech.com/article [...] 397,00.asp
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