WT Build a New Rig

[dizz01]

Hey guys for the past 5 years or so I've been playing on a... well really crappy rig but it has got the job done for what I've asked it to do. (play WoW and TF2)

I'm looking to build a new machine but I am on a budget, like most everyone else.

What is your opinion on what to get that will run WoW, TF2 and could handle "some" of the newer games out there?

Can you find a good deal on..
Mobo, Gcard, Ram, Processor.

That aren't complete junk.

 

[cbb77]

If you are willing to get something used, I still have this available. would just need to add a video card to it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/99597-8-asus-system

 

[dizz01]

Where are you located? Its just missing a Video card?

 

[AsAnAtheist]

What is your budget to begin with.

I came up with this for now:
Your gonna need a power supply as well however.

Sapphire HD 4850: $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102824

AMD Phenom II 955 black edition x4 and ASUS M4A785-M: $225.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.315853

4gb G. Skill ram DDR2 800 mhz PC2 6400: $85.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122

Antec continuous 500w PSU: $44.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371004

Shipping:$13.33~

Total: $470.28

All you need to provide is Operating system, optical drive, hard drive, and case.

 

[ibleet]

You obviously aren't after the best and newest when you're on a budget, so this should do the trick:

Intel socket 775 mobo (maybe a p45) coupled with an E7500, an OCZ 600w or 700w psu, an 8800GTS G92 512, and any decent 4Gb kit DDR2-800 memory. Throw in a hard drive, optical, and case and you're on your way.

For gaming it isn't necessary to have a quad core, and in my experience, Intel makes for better and faster gamers than AMD. You can build this through newegg for about the same or less than the recommended system listed directly above this post.

 

[AsAnAtheist]

You obviously aren't after the best and newest when you're on a budget, so this should do the trick:

Intel socket 775 mobo (maybe a p45) coupled with an E7500, an OCZ 600w or 700w psu, an 8800GTS G92 512, and any decent 4Gb kit DDR2-800 memory. Throw in a hard drive, optical, and case and you're on your way.

For gaming it isn't necessary to have a quad core, and in my experience, Intel makes for better and faster gamers than AMD. You can build this through newegg for about the same or less than the recommended system listed directly above this post.

Let's see.

E7500 vs AMD phenom II x4 955 (black edition), the amd will take the lead big time. 6mb of l3 cache, unlocked multipliers that's a no brainier.
8800gts vs HD 4850. Once again HD 4850 takes the lead with performance as well as power consumption and technology. HD 4850 competes with a 9800 GTX
OCZ 600w-700w psu for that setup? That is way over kill for that type of setup.

Quad core is becoming a necessity specially with games coming out now using multithreading like no one's business. Seriously for like a few bucks less you can get an G6950. Team Fortress 2 already relies heavily on quad core processors, which is a game the OP wants to play..

Core 2 duo's are out of the equation since the Clarkdales are already out in the market.

Performance wise the setup I listed previously will completely obliterate the setup you just listed.

The only scenario where Intel beats AMD for gaming is in much higher end gaming setups. HD 5870s, GTX 285s, GTX 295s, or HD 5970s are where Intel's i5-750 or i7-920 will shine. Although the i5-750 vs i-920 for gaming have no difference in performance.

 

[cbb77]

Where are you located? Its just missing a Video card?

I am located in the US in MA.

 

[lowjack989]

I have a amd X2 7750 BE for $35.00, ASUS Triton HSF an extra $15.00, ASUS M3A78-CM $65.00, ULTRA 400Watt PSU Modular $20.00, Gigabyte case $15.00, 2GB PC6400 G.Skill RAM $30.00, WD 250GB HDD SATA w/Vista prem 64-bit $90.00 HIS 4670 1GB 128-BIT GDDR3 Vid Card $65.00. $325.00 for all Phone No. 434-728-3509, Located in Southern Virginia

 

[postama]

I can sell you most of a gaming set up for cheap.
Intel Q6660 processor
600 W power supply
ASUS p5N-e-sli motherboard
8GB DDR2 800 mhz ram
2 8500 GT's in SLI

You just need the case, hard drives, optical drive, and a cooler (stock cooling is functional but not very good)

400$ but willing to negotiate. AsAnAtheist suggested rig is better, but he is missing a motherboard which will add a bit to the cost.

Case, hard drive and cooler will probably cost you about 150$ for quality parts from newegg.

 

[AsAnAtheist]

I can sell you most of a gaming set up for cheap.
Intel Q6660 processor
600 W power supply
ASUS p5N-e-sli motherboard
8GB DDR2 800 mhz ram
2 8500 GT's in SLI

You just need the case, hard drives, optical drive, and a cooler (stock cooling is functional but not very good)

400$ but willing to negotiate. AsAnAtheist suggested rig is better, but he is missing a motherboard which will add a bit to the cost.

Case, hard drive and cooler will probably cost you about 150$ for quality parts from newegg.

It's not missing the motherboard, it's a CPU+Motherboard combo. At $400 the setup you listed is a little bit too expensive, not because the part's are not worth the money but because the parts themselves are already old parts. For the $470~ setup I posted it will be hard to find anything better.

 

[postama]

Aha, right you are sir, so I'll lower my price to $300 but AsAnAtheist did recommend an excellent build

 

[lowjack989]

my rig complete for $325.00 are you guys biased towards intel or something my complete gaming system w/OS is cheaper than everything suggested and it plays most new games on high, the rig is 4 months old

 

[itadakimasu]

For a budget build I'd think an athlon II x4 would be better? My 620 overclocks with absolutely no effort to 3.2ghz and you can get one for around $80 on ebay, $95 new from newegg.

 

[AsAnAtheist]

For a budget build I'd think an athlon II x4 would be better? My 620 overclocks with absolutely no effort to 3.2ghz and you can get one for around $80 on ebay, $95 new from newegg.

True but no L3 cache, and would typically require 1066 ram to get nice overclock (unless you want your ram speed to be in the 700s mhz~, not to mention the additional fund required to put into a good enough motherboard to support high enough HT reference frequencies to get the RAM to hit 800mhz with low latencies/stable). If you can spend the extra $50, it's definitely worth getting a Phenom II x4 955 BE as it saves you from investing too heavily on other equipment when overclocking.


The Phenom 550 x2 Dual core often competes at the same level as the Athlon II X4 Propus 620. Sure the Propus has lower clock, but has 4 processors. The Phenom II x2 550 should not be a competitor to the Athlon II x4 Propus but the lack of L3 cache does indeed hinder the Athlon II x4 Propus enough that 500 mhz clock difference on a dual core can catch up to a quad core. A Phenom II x4 955 at 2.6 ghz would still smoke a Phenom II x2 550 at 3.1 ghz. This is evident enough that the L3 cache does play a significant on the performance.

Apart from that however if you truly are on a budget and cannot afford to shell out another $50 (A position I sometimes find myself in) then yes the Propus is indeed a great bargain. Another reason to get a Propus is if your do not need high clocks, or over clocking but still want a quad core for multi tasking everyday tasks. In this market the Propus reigns king since even 1.2 ghz clock differences/l3 cache do not play a huge difference when web browsing, watching movies, or listening to music..