Yeah....close to the title but with lego indiana jones, not star wars. I encourage people to boycott the game... but maybe send a dollar to the developers office or something, or maybe just a letter bitching at the publisher? drm=gay. and it's sad that there's only one review on newegg.com and it's complaining about securom. haha. Poor bastard... Lame. Just release the **** on steam for 10 bucks off or something if you want to make money. really... screw these companies... steam or a similar free service is the easiest way to go.... screw drm.

skip bitching here... if anyone lives near one of these companies buildings...go be mischievous about it or something...

look for blogs and articles about mass effect being cracked on the first day of release, less than 24 hours for a cracked copy of the game.

the drm only served to motivate the crackers due to the outrageous DRM added

happens with every game, the stronger/more annoying the drm is, the faster they are cracked due to gaming community outrage

Any idea who made the crack? i.e. a label of some sort? a passing boast of some sort? I like to read up more on copy protected method used and how come it got hack so fast.

i.e. did the beta tester media has these copyright protection on them? etc.

I don't think its ethical to post this sort of thing on the forums, but if you are really hard out for cracks you can always go surf warez sites and load your computer up with trojans and malware

People complain about Securom, but they are more than happy to fill their pcs with garbage from obscure and shady websites lol

Nope, I am not really hard out for cracks. Reading them just give me another dose of A.D.D. (attention deficit disorder). har har

Anyway the title of this thread has "securom" in it. I thought it came out with a revision or next generation of copyprotected scheme and it got hack in same day as release.

I imagined that these copy-protected scheme is really hard, it is not all software... Encryption can be all software all math, copy-protected scheme is different than encryption. Close, and close cigars, but still different. At least game company look at it differently.

Freedom of speech gives us porn...everywhere, if that is the case I don't see why text conversion on copy-protected scheme is unethical. Is this your opinion or is this forum's rules and regulation? Game publishers are the only publishers who kept copy-protected scheme alive and in business. Microsoft just make you registered online to enable all features...

Anyway, A.D.D. is coming back to me.

jujubefruit

Gentle people,

It is really quite simple, discussing why a specific protection scheme was hacked within a day is fine as long it does not go into specifics for it to become a readme on how to do it. I will closely monitor this. Discussing where you can get such cracks or where you can find that readme, is not fine and measures will be taken. Complaining about evil DRM and evil companies is fine, but has been done countless of times already. Encouraging others to start pirating is not fine, and measures will be taken.

The thing is with protecting PC games, it has to be all software (are you talking about the need for an internet connection, activation scheme etc? that is still all software) because you cannot predict anything about the hardware that will be used to run the game, other than that there will be a windows compatible cpu in it.

An example of a made up copy-protected scheme is to use a simple media like a 3.5" floppy disk. Games were originally place on a 3.5" floppy disk and many of them were copy-protected. Let pretend say each sector has 512 bytes, so, on a 1.44mb disk there would exists 2880 sectors and the fat table would indicate so. Hencefore, all microsoft standard copy utility and copy disk utlities would recognize such setup. Well, a pretend copy-protected scheme would create one additional sector, and force the disk head to read at such a sector to read one or two or a handful of bytes identifing originality of media. This hidden sector is undefine but well understood by pretend copy protected scheme.

This is not all software because an encryption algorithm is not required. Thus the industry term coin "copy protected" is widely used and accepted by industry (and probably before BIG MAC stop smoking weed and use a computer for a living...har har, joke Big Mac calm you down now har har). The term "encryptic protected" is not used. WHY? Because on a 8bit processor or 16bit processor with ?16ms? (milli second) 128K of main static d-ram running at low double digit megahertz do not have to computing power to decrypt or decipher in realtime. If Big Mac is upset and wanna push it I can get the specs for hardware, har har. Believe it or the such a such is call the apple iie, and it cost $300 to upgrade to 256 kilo bytes of total ram. That's the max. Yet it gave rise to companies that later went on to selling pc games. Yes yes set top box gets the credit too but not after apple computer show them there's money in the home gaming market. Unbelievable? Maybe you guys hang around big mac too long. har har. numbskulls.

Since Mister BIG MAC seems to be running the show and probably a hot shot on tomshardware.com forum and more confident that other tom's hardware fellow, I am not discussing how to hack, I just make up an excample of a copy-protected scheme and how encryption algorithem is not present. SEE BIGMAC?

btw, I dislike BIG MAC from macdonald or mcdonald. I like burger king, it's flame boil and its whopper can feed me even when I was in junoir high school. Burger King's chicken sandwhich with extra mayo (the long bun type with sesame seeds) is also good. Man, not every place cook it right, I like it juicy. Actually clear liquid dripping from the bite you just made. If you visit or are in Chicago, try "portillio's" , three items to try in the following order: "juicy italian beef with cheese and hot italian pepper (peperoncino?)", "double cheese burger with bacon", and "chicago style dog with everything". I think portillo beat out fuddruckers for hamburger, but fuddruckers decor and bigger burgger and all the concepts is more fun to eat at. AND if you drive by a gyro place, make mental note. Try it, it is almost the same from chicago's area mom and pop type restaurants. I tend to buy from place where I get big portions. But you have to live there and for a while.

So, Big Mac, are there things you know about copy protection you want to share with us? Or are you just another lame fart in tom's hardware forum?

Does Big Mac have enough computer experiences to tell us how the term "copy-protected" come to exists in the pc industry? Or why other terms are not coin or used like "encryptic protected"? How else can Big Mac monitor a forum on copy-protected than?

Speak Big Mac. Show us your greatness.

jujubefruit

This lame fart has been asked to moderate these forums. I'll give you a cool off period of a day and see you back then.

Regarding DRM, I was not talking about encryption per se, I was talking about the fact that it is always software that has to detect whatever has been built in to verify that something is a valid copy or not. I am not stating that as a fact but as my opinion. I do have an IT background but I'm not a security expert so take it at face value and show your own prowness at the subject without belittling others or showing your problems with moderation of these forums.

The fact that I am a moderator here is shown on the left hand side, if you are using the U.S. based site. I'm not sure if it is shown correctly on the U.K. and other sites but it would not hurt to inquire first instead of assuming someone is a megalomaniac

I think this is the crucial bit, so you think that if there is no encryption involved that protection is then defacto not software only?