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Forget wat i said earlier. I'm just gonna ask a more specific question and hope i get some answers this time. Is the e8400 overclocked like hell really necessary to keep up with a radeon 4850, or will a e7200 overclocked like hell do just fine? Im asking in regards to performance in Oblivion, gonna use 1280X720 res, 1366X768 if i can get my monitor to work right. Maxed settings, 4X aa, and any texture mods/detail mods i can get my hands on. Theyre both over my budget, but im thinking the e8400 just to be totally certain my comp will handle this game like butter. The other main question is how important is a big L2 cache with Oblivion?


Message edited by i sea on 07-26-2008 at 05:27:46 PM
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either of those processors should be fine for oblivion. I doubt you will see much if ANY performance difference between the two.

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i ran this game on a :
socket 478 ~ P4 3.0; 2 gigs ram; 7800gs AGP 8x card; and 160 WD EIDE drive.

it ran beautifully. not maxed out. you wont see much - if any difference between the two. the L2 cache doesn't make a difference in any game. the real place where you see the difference is in programs like - music/video/photo editing programs

"The L2 cache effect will really all depend on what you are doing with the processor. If you are playing a game that has continual refreshing, new graphics, then your utilization of the cache memory is probably not so good (thus no benefit). If you are doing something in photoshop, where you have a continual algorithms executed over time, using the same code, then the larger cache will assist your experience."

And these are some of the best mods for Oblivion. at least thats what my friend has gave me to start out with, and hes tried over 26GB's worth so i trust him.

http://www.4shared.com/dir/8093763 [...] _mods.html

and really for the money why not buy a Q6600(8mb L2) for under $200 instead of spending extra $100. i know the E8500(6mb L2) is better for games cause no game are written for a 4 core cpu. but the Q6600 is the best bang for the buck and it has better benchmarks than the E8500. thats what i would do at least.


Message edited by spook24 on 07-29-2008 at 09:47:52 AM
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you could run oblivion on an e2160 overclocked like hell, with a worse graphics card (speaking from experience here), e7200 or e8400 is fine

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Hows the q6600 do with power usage compared to the e8400, and also how well does it overclock? If it gets like 3Ghz, will oblivion run better with that that an e8400 at 4Ghz? And lastly how much heat output does the q6600 create when overclocked A LOT. I need to make sure my cooler will handle it and that it would actually help me. Man, people online keep getting me to bump up my cpu choice, anything i list is never enough.... Tho if the q6600 gets better performance than the e8400, both overclocked, in oblivion i might spend the extra $20 on it. Oh ya, and would a corsair 550W psu still be enough for the q6600 and a 4850, 4Gb ram, hdd, p35 mobo, and 2 disk drives?

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Hey ive got a request for anyone with a quad core and oblivion. If you have the .ini settings tweaked to use multiple threads, can you tell if its actually using more than 2 of them? The only test id like you to do is set it to use multi core, open task manager, and play a cpu intensive part of the game for a while. Then quit and see if all four cores were actually used, and whether it was fairly evened out. I really dont wanna get quad core if the game wont scale worth a darn with this game. If it doesnt scale with the cores, then ill just have to disable my internet connection and shut off all antispyware/virus protection to speed up the game. Either way i go is an insane upgrade from my single core 2.2Ghz cpu with 512mb L2 cache. But there's almost something special about a quad core processor where one of its cores, at stock speed, could own my current cpu... :lol:

Edit-mmk, ive got another question that may help decide what i need. At what point will the cpu be faster than a 4850? Will a heavily overclocked q6600 be at the 4850's level? if so then it wouldnt make a lot of sense to get the q6600. Then again, since im running at low resolutions, the cpu will prob be the bottleneck no matter what... So what fps rating you guys think i could get all settings maxed and 1280X720 res, and at what clock setting with the q6600? Sorry for so many near impossible questions, just hoping to run into someone who has an answer or can test this. Im pretty sure the e8400 could keep up with the 4850 just fine, even if it still held the gpu back, but i wanna make sure the q6600 would be up to the task to reducing stuttering and all that jazz.

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Message edited by i sea on 07-27-2008 at 07:50:46 AM
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i sea wrote :

Hows the q6600 do with power usage compared to the e8400, and also how well does it overclock? If it gets like 3Ghz, will oblivion run better with that that an e8400 at 4Ghz? And lastly how much heat output does the q6600 create when overclocked A LOT. I need to make sure my cooler will handle it and that it would actually help me. Man, people online keep getting me to bump up my cpu choice, anything i list is never enough.... Tho if the q6600 gets better performance than the e8400, both overclocked, in oblivion i might spend the extra $20 on it. Oh ya, and would a corsair 550W psu still be enough for the q6600 and a 4850, 4Gb ram, hdd, p35 mobo, and 2 disk drives?



i sea wrote :

Hey ive got a request for anyone with a quad core and oblivion. If you have the .ini settings tweaked to use multiple threads, can you tell if its actually using more than 2 of them? The only test id like you to do is set it to use multi core, open task manager, and play a cpu intensive part of the game for a while. Then quit and see if all four cores were actually used, and whether it was fairly evened out. I really dont wanna get quad core if the game wont scale worth a darn with this game. If it doesnt scale with the cores, then ill just have to disable my internet connection and shut off all antispyware/virus protection to speed up the game. Either way i go is an insane upgrade from my single core 2.2Ghz cpu with 512mb L2 cache. But there's almost something special about a quad core processor where one of its cores, at stock speed, could own my current cpu... :lol:

Edit-mmk, ive got another question that may help decide what i need. At what point will the cpu be faster than a 4850? Will a heavily overclocked q6600 be at the 4850's level? if so then it wouldnt make a lot of sense to get the q6600. Then again, since im running at low resolutions, the cpu will prob be the bottleneck no matter what... So what fps rating you guys think i could get all settings maxed and 1280X720 res, and at what clock setting with the q6600? Sorry for so many near impossible questions, just hoping to run into someone who has an answer or can test this. Im pretty sure the e8400 could keep up with the 4850 just fine, even if it still held the gpu back, but i wanna make sure the q6600 would be up to the task to reducing stuttering and all that jazz.




two words for you : Prozac & Ritalin. you best answer is to Google what questions you have and if that doesn't work then your S.L.O.

does anybody do that anymore beside me?

this really should be in a different section to answer those questions. this is why i hate posting on forums these days cause of ppl like this.


Message edited by spook24 on 07-29-2008 at 09:47:39 AM
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Sea, take a chill pill bud. I'm quite sure that no matter what CPU you choose it will run smooth as butter. As i'm currently running on an AMD 6000+ based system, which by the way is slower then what you have selected, I have had no major problems. I'm running a pair of 8600GTS's OCed without any bottlenecking and only utilizing one core. I highly doubt that a pair of 4850's is going to be bottlenecked by my CPU. So i think you have little to worry about.

here are some specs that i get while i play on my current rig.
Exterior Great Forest: 30-55 fps Interior Caves, ect... 60-75 fps

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Sorry about too many questions, guess ill just go back to google, where i was originally, and hope i find some unbiased info. Thanks for the answers tho ppl.

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lol...don't worry about it.

 

i just did a very simple check of oblivion with my q6600 and task manager. While one core does do the majority of the work, there was a good-sized load taken off of it by the other three cores, across which the remaining work was distributed evenly.

 

also:

i sea wrote :

Either way i go is an insane upgrade from my single core 2.2Ghz cpu with 512mb L2 cache. But there's almost something special about a quad core processor where one of its cores, at stock speed, could own my current cpu... :lol:

 

You have a freakin' huge L2 cache!!!! ;)


Message edited by rayzor on 07-27-2008 at 10:55:07 PM
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forgot to add that i ordered my computer yesterday, and im getting the e8400. I saw a lot of bad reviews for the q6600 on newegg involving the customer recieving a chip with "d3" stepping instead of "go" or something. There was one dating back to this month even, so i was kinda worried about wasting all my $ on a crappy chip cuz newegg doesnt guarantee "go" stepping. And of course, there were no reliable online stores with a lower price than newegg, but at least they guaranteed "go" stepping.

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ok, just to clarify for others who may be reading this...the main difference between d3 and g0 stepping is the thermal tolerance. The g0 can (I believe) be pushed up to ~70 degrees celcius and still be within limits while the b3 can only go up to ~60. Other than that, there is no speed difference between the stepping versions. So it is fairly important if trying to overclock like a maniac, but not important for anything else really. I have a b3 Q6600 that is rock stable at 3.0ghz and I know I could push it much further but I have motherboard problems.

------------------------------ MSI P6N SLI Platinum || Q6600 B3 @ 3.0Ghz || EVGA 8800 GTX (625/1550/2020) || 4 gigs Mushkin Enhanced DDR2 800 (5-5-5-18) || 2xWD Raptors (200 gigs) 1x Seagate Barracuda (300 gigs) || HT Omega Striker Sound Card || Coolmax 700W Modular Power Supply
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