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June 12, 2011 1:48:56 PM

Haserath said:
Ehh the banner was a group thing, I just took a few different versions of it and made it change between them.

I believe AznShinobi deserves most of the credit for it as he designed it.


opps my bad. :sweat:  For some reason i though you designed it. :lol:  (too lazy to relook though the 50+ pages :sleep:  )
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June 12, 2011 4:01:50 PM

Haserath said:
I don't think that would be as economically efficient as a setup of i5 2500ks overclocked. You have to purchase the power supply, mobo(IGP included), and memory at the least along with the processor, so. The 2500k builds for the same cost as the Sempron builds would most likely win in every aspect, especially power consumption, which is cost over time.

You might as well wait for Bulldozer and build servers with the 8 core, that would be much more efficient. It's better to build more into one than build many separate ones IMO.


elel said:
What boards are you planning on putting these in? Like haserath said, you are probably losing in support parts the advantages of the cheap processor. I think that you'd need a 4 socket mobo to do bigADV even with these unlocked, which I believe is a pretty expensive part, though I never looked for one. A smaller number of more efficient parts would probably work much better. If power usage isn't an issue, you might look at places which sell refurbished servers. My boss just picked up an old HP server with 2 gigs of ram and dual 2.7 ghz xeons (only single core I think) for about $120. Even though the efficiency is probably abysmal for today's standards, this server should be almost as fast as one of your unlocked opterons, and you're never going to build a complete new system for that price. There are some good deals on used stuff out there.


Okay, what do you guys recommend? I chose the sempron over the low cost and unlockable potential.
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June 12, 2011 4:10:18 PM

amd655, did you check how much extra power that OC chows down over stock? That can be a good predictor of CPU and motherboard power vrm wear.
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June 12, 2011 4:13:06 PM

Also amd655, you could make a couple of OC profiles - lower ones for everyday and folding tasks and higher ones only when needed.
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June 12, 2011 6:59:21 PM

dogman_1234 said:
Okay, what do you guys recommend? I chose the sempron over the low cost and unlockable potential.

You don't plan on building with Intel, right? When are you planning on doing this, because Bulldozer is only a few months away(hopefully).

It's always better to fit more into less in the server world, since there are parts that will take up energy no matter how efficient the processor is. An 8 core Bulldozer, as long as it's decent on per core performance, is probably going to be the best to build with price for performance wise.

Elel wrote about semprons being put into a 4 socket mobo, but I don't think you can do that with a desktop processor either. Opterons are specially made to run in multiple socket motherboards.

As of right now, the 1055T is your best bet. A good amount of cores for the price, and more per core performance than the semprons.
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June 12, 2011 7:38:58 PM

I'd wait for Bulldozer too (if possible). The inability of the AMD 6 cores to do bigadv is a sizable negative.

And amd655, I wasn't questioning your OC skills, I was mostly just curious how much power that chip needs at such a high OC. I know my "old" i5 (45nm, Lynnfield) really started chowing power, even at only moderate OCes.
June 12, 2011 7:53:18 PM

It might pay off if you wait for Bulldozer, but then again you could get a 1055t right now, depending on whether or not you want to wait a couple months, IMO. But you can do whatever you want, that's just my 2 cents.
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June 12, 2011 10:50:12 PM

I am anticipating a high end 8xxx Bulldozer Zambezi Processor for my FSX rig. Hopefully F@H will like it as well.
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June 13, 2011 1:10:49 AM

I finally started getting bonuses, and wow that last one got a lot. It took about 4 hours, however it got 5108 points. I guess that's about right though, comes out to about 30-31k PPD SMP.
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June 13, 2011 1:22:32 AM

Some of you have to have F@H supercomputers.
June 13, 2011 2:15:54 AM

EXT64 said:
I finally started getting bonuses, and wow that last one got a lot. It took about 4 hours, however it got 5108 points. I guess that's about right though, comes out to about 30-31k PPD SMP.

Dang, 30k PPD, most I get is like 5k :lol: . Meanwhile, the current cool-down here is probably good for my computer, but I don't like it :D 
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June 13, 2011 2:44:29 AM

^ I get approx 1k. *sad face*.
June 13, 2011 3:08:50 AM

^Looks like you're going to upgrade soon, am I right?
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June 13, 2011 3:23:46 AM

Advanced Micro Device Zambezi Octocore Bulldozer Central Processing Unit:

In layman's term" Yes.
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June 13, 2011 11:52:18 AM

dogman_1234 said:
Advanced Micro Device Zambezi Octocore Bulldozer Central Processing Unit:

In layman's term" Yes.


Are you sure? :kaola:  (jk)
June 13, 2011 2:21:27 PM

dogman_1234 said:
Advanced Micro Device Zambezi Octocore Bulldozer Central Processing Unit:

In layman's term" Yes.

Nice! I wonder how many PPD that will get you........
June 13, 2011 2:29:47 PM

AK419 just cracked 30 mil!! :ouch: 
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June 13, 2011 4:04:58 PM

:o 

Gratz AK! :bounce: 


[:warmon6]
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June 13, 2011 4:59:24 PM

lilcinw said:
AK419 just cracked 30 mil!! :ouch: 



Hope this does not cause a black hol...oh, crap!
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June 13, 2011 5:03:56 PM

I have 3 computers that I can run this on for this team can someone pm me and help me set this up?
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June 13, 2011 5:05:29 PM

It would be interesting to know what he's running as according to this he gets 16K per update.
June 13, 2011 5:38:58 PM

According to F@H stats he has 11 active clients. I would guess that is 2 bigadv with a mix of a couple more SMP and a handful of GPUS.
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June 13, 2011 5:45:43 PM

lilcinw said:
According to F@H stats he has 11 active clients. I would guess that is 2 bigadv with a mix of a couple more SMP and a handful of GPUS.

According to the stats I have 11 active clients with 9 currently running, I don't but the stats say I do.
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June 13, 2011 6:14:50 PM

cia24 said:
I have 3 computers that I can run this on for this team can someone pm me and help me set this up?


I could just do it here instead of having to pm... [:grahamlv:3] Kinda make it easy for you technically as, if i need to leave the computer unexpectedly for example, someone else can easily take over with helping out. That way your not left hanging with a 1/2 finish client. :) 


Anyways, for setting up F@H on the 3 computers, We'll need to know a few things for each.

  • What OS are each of these computers running (Including OS bit)?

  • What hardware does each Computer have?

    Is there anything else we should know about like "Only able to run the client 'X' amount of hours" or something in the nature of?


    This will help us direct you to the best clients for each computer.


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    June 13, 2011 6:23:37 PM

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    I could just do it here instead of having to pm... [:grahamlv:3] Kinda make it easy for you technically as, if i need to leave the computer unexpectedly for example, someone else can easily take over with helping out. That way your not left hanging with a 1/2 finish client. :) 


    Anyways, for setting up F@H on the 3 computers, We'll need to know a few things for each.

  • What OS are each of these computers running (Including OS bit)?

  • What hardware does each Computer have?

    Is there anything else we should know about like "Only able to run the client 'X' amount of hours" or something in the nature of?


    This will help us direct you to the best clients for each computer.



  • The computer in my sig is running for team 40051 right now:) 

    2nd comuter

    i5-2500k 4.5ghz
    2 gtx 295's
    16gb ddr3 ram
    16tb total hdd space, 1tb is in ssds lol

    3rd computer
    intel i-7 980x 4.1ghz
    2 radeon 5970's
    2tb hdd
    i think 9gb of triple channel ram
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    June 13, 2011 6:37:14 PM

    Do you have a passcode? That is needed to get bonus points. And wow, if you ran all of those for 24 hours straight...that would be a lot of points.
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    June 13, 2011 7:06:23 PM

    EXT64 said:
    Do you have a passcode? That is needed to get bonus points. And wow, if you ran all of those for 24 hours straight...that would be a lot of points.



    Im new to f@h i do it on my ps3 24/7 since i have all these pointless computers at home might as well put them to use also how do i make the program use more of my cpus its only used like 34%
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    June 13, 2011 7:33:49 PM

    cia24 said:
    The computer in my sig is running for team 40051 right now:) 

    2nd comuter

    i5-2500k 4.5ghz
    2 gtx 295's
    16gb ddr3 ram
    16tb total hdd space, 1tb is in ssds lol

    3rd computer
    intel i-7 980x 4.1ghz
    2 radeon 5970's
    2tb hdd
    i think 9gb of triple channel ram


    :eek2:  Please hold while i bow at your holy power. :ouimaitre:  :ouimaitre:  :ouimaitre:  :ouimaitre:  :ange: 


    Anyways....... [:graywolf:8]


    For the CPU side of things:

    I definitely recommend on your 1st and 3rd computer to run bigadv (apart of the smp stuff) as these 2 computers can handle the largest Wu's that F@H has to offer.


    For the 2nd computer, without HT, your only going to be able to run plain smp2.


    For the GPU's:

    For your 1st and 2nd computer with nvidia gpu's in them, you can experiment with them and see if they reduce your cpu based folding or not.

    Your 3rd computer with the ATI/AMD gpu's, i wouldn't recommend as they take enough cpu cycles way that it can harm the overall speed of the CPU base folding. (and while better than they were in the past, there still some optimization that need to be done to them)



    1 note about most of us (including my self). where kinda into the points system. So were always tring to maximize the amount of points we earn per day (PPD). The gpu clients, with powerful gpu's like what you got, take some cpu cycles that may slow down the speed of the WU's.

    Most people are able to gain a small amount of additional points with running both GPU(s) and CPU(s). although the more powerful the gpu's are, the more cpu cycles they require to keep its self feed with data. So, with your setup, you may see a PPD loss if you try to run your gpu's while running the smp client. So you may want to run just cpu.

    Of course, you probably haven't been bitten by the F@H bug so......... :whistle:  If your not into points, feel free to run anything as your heart (and computer) can handle.



    Now for clients, (in my option) i would recommend running the v7 client as it's easy to use and everything you need to run it is already there. No separate clients for each hardware.

    https://fah-web.stanford.edu/projects/FAHClient/


    For help on setup, these links should be a big help.

    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinGuide (install guide)
    http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=18187 (how to add flags)
    https://fah-web.stanford.edu/projects/FAHClient/wiki/Cl... (the flags)



    Also as EXT mentioned, you should also get a passkey. Passkey are used to earn bonus points. (there a reward system for turning in WU's as quick as possible.) *currently only for SMP and some Single core cpu WU's. Any other questions (including of how to get the passkey) should be able to be answered here.

    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-passkey

    Welcome to the team! [:warmon6] :hello: 
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    Jeez, just the 3 cpu's alone.....


    Core i7 2600k, 30k to 50k running bigadv....

    Core i5 2500K, 15k to 20K running smp2 (if memory serves right, could be more)

    Core i7 980x, 40k to 70k running bigadv.


    All in all, you could be earning (once the bonus points kick in) anywhere from 85k to 140k ppd.


    Lets just say, if you hit the middle to up'er end of my estimate. You would be our most powerful folder on the team.

    http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php... (current more powerful member of our team)

    And thats not factoring (if) you can add even more points by using the gpu's. :bounce: 


    As said welcome to the team! Time to get the popcorn! [:bilbat:1]
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    Also, just shy of a full month of not running F@H, i have started the F@H client on my laptop. Now, my area still is seeing a lot of heat (Savannah, GA says that the area has seen 90's every day for the past 20+ days.) but i'm running. Single core client but it's folding.

    At least i got one of those bonus enabled single core WU. Think it's the first one i've gotten. :) 
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    June 13, 2011 7:36:47 PM

    That is strange. What client are you using, and what setting? I like the version 7 beta since it is so easy to setup ( https://fah-web.stanford.edu/projects/FAHClient/wiki/Be... ).

    With that client, and a passkey, it should automatically start an SMP that will use 100% of your CPU. After you start getting bonus points (after 10 successful SMP WU) you can switch over to bigadv WUs and get even more points.
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    June 13, 2011 7:41:09 PM

    cia24 said:
    Im new to f@h i do it on my ps3 24/7 since i have all these pointless computers at home might as well put them to use also how do i make the program use more of my cpus its only used like 34%


    Well, from that little info. Im guessing your running the v6 uniprocessor. Although sounds like you somehow got 2 or 3 of them is there all totaling up to 34%.

    no single client that im aware of can run at 34% of any of your 3 computers. (25% or 12.5% of your cpu's)

    Now, i could recommend the various different client of version 6 (v6) but i find v7 much easier to use as it's all together. (not the v6 isn't easy to use, its just v7 puts everything you need in 1 place.)
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    June 13, 2011 7:55:48 PM

    I will work on this the next few days and try to get this to work i have 50meg internet so i wont bottleneck there, I would like to be a part of somthing good and here it is, i can run f@h off of around 10 computers i listed the best ones, but at night i can used my dads workstations for his job to do this there specs are sick lol, im sure if i got all of these up and running on this i would easiley overtake the leader lol.


    edit- the 3 pcs i listed are all watercooled, also my dads two work stations are also i will have to find the specs on those i know this is there gpus' each has one of these cards PNY VCQFX5800-PCIE-PB QuadroFX 5800 Workstation Video Card-he does alot of cad and design lol
    June 13, 2011 8:03:19 PM

    I find the v7 GUI to be quite nice, and like everyone else says, it's easy to use.
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    June 13, 2011 8:26:50 PM

    cia24 said:
    I will work on this the next few days and try to get this to work i have 50meg internet so i wont bottleneck there, I would like to be a part of somthing good and here it is, i can run f@h off of around 10 computers i listed the best ones, but at night i can used my dads workstations for his job to do this there specs are sick lol, im sure if i got all of these up and running on this i would easiley overtake the leader lol.


    edit- the 3 pcs i listed are all watercooled, also my dads two work stations are also i will have to find the specs on those i know this is there gpus' each has one of these cards PNY VCQFX5800-PCIE-PB QuadroFX 5800 Workstation Video Card-he does alot of cad and design lol


    Wait...... you have more computers in reserve?!?!




    All hail Cia!

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    June 13, 2011 8:31:46 PM

    I have a huge family lol since we run are own design business we have these work station computers that will work great for f@h, the other computer i have are as listed

    2xmac book pros i7-sandy bridge
    2xasus rog g73 i7-sandy bridge
    2x alienware mx15's core 2 quads sli gtx 260's

    1x i7-990x
    no computer to put it in lol!

    along with what i have allready listed.
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    June 13, 2011 8:33:35 PM

    If team 40051 wants me to work on there team somone needs to get on steam or msn live to help me get this setup i think thats only fair. pm me
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    June 13, 2011 8:51:48 PM

    cia24 said:
    If team 40051 wants me to work on there team somone needs to get on steam or msn live to help me get this setup i think thats only fair. pm me


    Sorry, dont have either of them. :p  Im not much of a social person. So i rarely used messengers, emails, tweets (well those, i just pain out dont even get how they work), ect. Heck, the only forums im really talk on is hear. Although i been lately just been sitting in this thread......

    Steam, havn't payed much attention to them. the games i got are good enough for me. although my school likes keeping me busy even during summer brake. So i haven't even had time for that but that should be changing in the next week as my prep for next year will be complete. (soo many autocad/autodesk programs downloaded....)



    Although that makes sense why you have so many powerful computers now. :) 

    Just at first, when you mentioned your 1st 3, i was like, "Man this person like to pack the heat for anything that thrown at him." :gun: 

    Although when you mentioned that you had more computers, i was like "jeez i heard of a computer enthusiast, but that's taking it to the next level!" [:henry chinaski:2]
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    June 13, 2011 8:54:49 PM

    Can i run like 10 computer at the same time off the same name with the same passkey on f@h? if so my score after a week would be huge.
    June 13, 2011 8:59:51 PM

    You can run as many as you like.

    I wonder if you could break 1 mil in under a week with everything running.
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    June 13, 2011 9:08:47 PM

    Quick question on my main rig i have 2 gtx 580s watercooled i7-2600k 4.2ghz and a gtx 260 as a physx card, Is it possible to run f@h on the cpu. also on the 580's then off the gtx 260.

    I can only run 3 of the computers 24/7 keep that in mind, the other 7 i can only run about 7 hours a day.
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    June 13, 2011 9:11:40 PM

    cia24 said:
    Quick question on my main rig i have 2 gtx 580s watercooled i7-2600k 4.2ghz and a gtx 260 as a physx card, Is it possible to run f@h on the cpu. also on the 580's then off the gtx 260.

    I can only run 3 of the computers 24/7 keep that in mind, the other 7 i can only run about 7 hours a day.

    It should be.
    June 13, 2011 9:15:36 PM

    I don't run any SLI rigs so I may be wrong but I believe you have to disable SLI in order to run F@H on multiple GPUs.
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    June 13, 2011 9:16:05 PM

    Mousemonkey said:
    It should be.



    In order to do this i will have to setup manualy right?
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    June 13, 2011 9:17:53 PM

    lilcinw said:
    I don't run any SLI rigs so I may be wrong but I believe you have to disable SLI in order to run F@H on multiple GPUs.

    With the v7 client it doesn't seem to matter, I've tried it with and without SLi and it makes no difference.
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    June 13, 2011 9:19:52 PM

    Mousemonkey said:
    With the v7 client it doesn't seem to matter, I've tried it with and without SLi and it makes no difference.


    but do i have to setup up the parts along or will the v7do it all for me lol, i guess what i am asking doesnt make much sense
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    June 13, 2011 9:20:31 PM

    cia24 said:
    In order to do this i will have to setup manualy right?

    The v7 client may see all the GPU's in the system and if so then all you have to to is add the CPU after it has set itself up, at least that's all I did.
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    June 13, 2011 9:21:44 PM

    Mousemonkey said:
    The v7 client may see all the GPU's in the system and if so then all you have to to is add the CPU after it has set itself up, at least that's all I did.



    How can i tell if it is useing all the parts of the computer lol.
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    June 13, 2011 9:25:08 PM

    I use MSI Afterburner's hardware monitor to keep an eye on my GPU's and windows taskmanager to check CPU usage.
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    June 13, 2011 9:53:20 PM

    I will give it a try when i get home in about 30mins if i have any major issues i will post again, also mousemonkey what % of your gpu's does f@h use? so i know what to look for.
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    June 13, 2011 10:26:23 PM

    With version 7 i cant select smp and gpu at the same time so it is only useing my cpu how do i fix this
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