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lilcinw
December 18, 2011 3:30:39 AM
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wieschie
December 18, 2011 7:18:13 PM
wieschie
December 18, 2011 8:33:08 PM
warmon6 said:
Just dont burn your self out from F@H!
http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/BurnOut.jpg/$file/BurnOut.jpg
My GPU is the one that runs hot
CPU'll do just fine. Though honestly in the summer I'm probably going to move it to the basement. It's 5-10 degrees warmer in my room with the 570 constantly folding..
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wieschie
December 19, 2011 7:16:37 PM
warmon6 said:
ack! double threat!http://i760.photobucket.com/albums/xx241/warmon6/threat2.png
I need moar power!
I keep upping my ppd but everyone else is too... Go team!
Haven't installed Fahmon on my laptop; I should do that. And I'll be starting SMP on my desktop later tonight
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wieschie
December 19, 2011 9:50:31 PM
Well, long story short: it's essentially a bloated or super sized smp2 wu. It's mainly designed to run on workstation/server setups that meet the requirements.
As for requirements: You currently need 8 threads at the min to run them (for cpu's like the core i7 920, you needed to overclock them to at least 3.6 GHz to make the deadlines).
Although on Jan. 16, that requirement is going up to 16 threads.
http://folding.typepad.com/news/2011/11/planned-changes...
Planned changes to "Big Advanced" (BA) projects, effective January 16, 2012
Big Advanced (BA) is an experimental type of Folding@home WUs intended for the most powerful machines in FAH. However, as time goes on, technology advances, and the characteristics associated with the most powerful machines changes. Due to these advances in hardware capabilities, we will need to periodically change the BA minimum requirements. Thus, we are shortening the deadlines of the BA projects. As a result, assignments will have a 16 core minimum. To give donors some advance warning, we are announcing this now, but the change will take place in 2 months: no earlier than on Monday January 16, 2012.
We understand that any changes to how FAH works is a disruption for donors, and we have been trying to minimize such changes. For that reason, we are not changing the points system at this time.
However, we want to emphasize that the BA program is experimental and that donors should expect changes in the future, potentially without a lot of notice (although we will try our best to give as much notice as we can). In particular, as hardware evolves, it is expected that we will need to change the nature of the BA WUs again in the future.
As for the purpose of Bigadv to the guys that run F@H: It's mainly to get work that they need done real quick (2 to 3 days or less turn around time) or work that cant be broken down to meet the normal smp requirements. (last part rare but i think someone one the f@h forum mentioned it at one point in time.
As for requirements: You currently need 8 threads at the min to run them (for cpu's like the core i7 920, you needed to overclock them to at least 3.6 GHz to make the deadlines).
Although on Jan. 16, that requirement is going up to 16 threads.
http://folding.typepad.com/news/2011/11/planned-changes...
Quote:
NOVEMBER 14, 2011Planned changes to "Big Advanced" (BA) projects, effective January 16, 2012
Big Advanced (BA) is an experimental type of Folding@home WUs intended for the most powerful machines in FAH. However, as time goes on, technology advances, and the characteristics associated with the most powerful machines changes. Due to these advances in hardware capabilities, we will need to periodically change the BA minimum requirements. Thus, we are shortening the deadlines of the BA projects. As a result, assignments will have a 16 core minimum. To give donors some advance warning, we are announcing this now, but the change will take place in 2 months: no earlier than on Monday January 16, 2012.
We understand that any changes to how FAH works is a disruption for donors, and we have been trying to minimize such changes. For that reason, we are not changing the points system at this time.
However, we want to emphasize that the BA program is experimental and that donors should expect changes in the future, potentially without a lot of notice (although we will try our best to give as much notice as we can). In particular, as hardware evolves, it is expected that we will need to change the nature of the BA WUs again in the future.
As for the purpose of Bigadv to the guys that run F@H: It's mainly to get work that they need done real quick (2 to 3 days or less turn around time) or work that cant be broken down to meet the normal smp requirements. (last part rare but i think someone one the f@h forum mentioned it at one point in time.
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lilcinw
December 19, 2011 10:06:44 PM
wieschie
December 19, 2011 10:37:53 PM
lilcinw said:
^ I could be wrong but I think that change will kick a lot of people to vanilla SMP.Anyone with a 'quad' core (HT = 2x threads) intel cpu will be kicked down by this change - you need to be running a server cpu or a multi-cpu setup to get anything more than 8 cores. Either I'm definitely not running any of those myself. In the future I'd love to have a dedicated folding server but that's quite far off at the moment.
To be honest it seems odd that they aren't pursuing any larger GPU WUs - my 570 will finish a 500m iteration WU (standard for GPUs) in around 2 hours and I've never seen anything larger.
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wieschie
December 19, 2011 10:49:58 PM
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I'm on another 6903 (Big Bigadv) right now, around 50% done I think. It will probably be my last, unless I squeeze one more in next year before the change. The kick back to SMP won't be too terrible for me - drops me from around 70k PPD to 40-45k PPD. And the 6903s are fairly inconvienint - a few solid days of folding (I often need to use the comp for other things).
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Smp2 been around for a little while (v6 client and v7)
Although the only difference that i can remember between the original smp and the smp2 is the way it used the cpu.
Original smp had to create a separate process for each thread it was going to use. So if you had a quad core cpu, in task manager you would see 4 seperate process for F@H running at 25%.
Compared to now where smp2 can make 1 process for all the threads it needs.
Now i know there was more than that between smp and smp2 but since i joined a few months after smp2 was made, i really didn't see much of the original smp. Maybe Ak or MM could fill the details there.
Although the only difference that i can remember between the original smp and the smp2 is the way it used the cpu.
Original smp had to create a separate process for each thread it was going to use. So if you had a quad core cpu, in task manager you would see 4 seperate process for F@H running at 25%.
Compared to now where smp2 can make 1 process for all the threads it needs.
Now i know there was more than that between smp and smp2 but since i joined a few months after smp2 was made, i really didn't see much of the original smp. Maybe Ak or MM could fill the details there.
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EXT64 said:
I'm on another 6903 (Big Bigadv) right now, around 50% done I think. It will probably be my last, unless I squeeze one more in next year before the change. The kick back to SMP won't be too terrible for me - drops me from around 70k PPD to 40-45k PPD. And the 6903s are fairly inconvienint - a few solid days of folding (I often need to use the comp for other things).whatever "floats the boat" i'd say.
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Does anyone know what is up with the team HPCS?
Whoever is behind the team has an output that almost matches the top two PPD teams together. The team only started showing up a few days ago, and it pass us in only a week or so.
I wonder what sort of hardware is behind the one folder on HPCS. Must be some nice equipment.
Whoever is behind the team has an output that almost matches the top two PPD teams together. The team only started showing up a few days ago, and it pass us in only a week or so.
I wonder what sort of hardware is behind the one folder on HPCS. Must be some nice equipment.
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Yep, 690 active CPUs. Definitely something special.
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teamp...
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teamp...
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So, on a completely different note, is anyone else getting these tiny SMP WU's? Their base credit is 88.59 and my current one is under Project 8004. They end up getting good PPD (about 15-20k for my 8120) and are very short run time (50-60 seconds TPF). A very refreshing change after those miserable 7610 and 7611 WUs which my 1055T is still stuck with, but I've never seen anything like them before.
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lilcinw
December 20, 2011 3:02:57 AM
smithereen
December 20, 2011 4:07:18 AM
wieschie
December 21, 2011 4:38:24 AM
Does anyone have any experience running FahMon with the SMP2 client?
I directed to the folder where the client exe and work files are and FahMon registers progress and I can see the program logs. But it doesn't recognize the core, has no idea about the deadline, and lists ppd as 0. Any workaround for this?
I directed to the folder where the client exe and work files are and FahMon registers progress and I can see the program logs. But it doesn't recognize the core, has no idea about the deadline, and lists ppd as 0. Any workaround for this?
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Nice sig Wieschie
The Mouseman cometh.
I suppose you've read this-
Adding New Clients to FahMon
1.Right click in the clients list area, and select Add new client
2.Enter the name for the new client, this is just a nickname used in the client list
3.Browse for the client folder (the folder containing FAHlog.txt and unitinfo.txt etc.) or manually type in a path
Valid filepaths on Windows, are any local folders like D:\F@H\ or D:\Program Files\Folding@home\ and also UNC paths for network shares i.e. //machine1/client1/
And maybe re-start the client.
Oh, and it doesn't work with v7.
The Mouseman cometh.
I suppose you've read this-
Adding New Clients to FahMon
1.Right click in the clients list area, and select Add new client
2.Enter the name for the new client, this is just a nickname used in the client list
3.Browse for the client folder (the folder containing FAHlog.txt and unitinfo.txt etc.) or manually type in a path
Valid filepaths on Windows, are any local folders like D:\F@H\ or D:\Program Files\Folding@home\ and also UNC paths for network shares i.e. //machine1/client1/
And maybe re-start the client.
Oh, and it doesn't work with v7.
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EXT64 said:
So, on a completely different note, is anyone else getting these tiny SMP WU's? Their base credit is 88.59 and my current one is under Project 8004. They end up getting good PPD (about 15-20k for my 8120) and are very short run time (50-60 seconds TPF). A very refreshing change after those miserable 7610 and 7611 WUs which my 1055T is still stuck with, but I've never seen anything like them before.Yep, thats all I'm getting, says the i7 @4ghz is 34k ppd and 35 sec tpf.
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wieschie
December 21, 2011 3:42:37 PM
beanoslim said:
Nice sig Wieschie
The Mouseman cometh.
I suppose you've read this-
Adding New Clients to FahMon
1.Right click in the clients list area, and select Add new client
2.Enter the name for the new client, this is just a nickname used in the client list
3.Browse for the client folder (the folder containing FAHlog.txt and unitinfo.txt etc.) or manually type in a path
Valid filepaths on Windows, are any local folders like D:\F@H\ or D:\Program Files\Folding@home\ and also UNC paths for network shares i.e. //machine1/client1/
And maybe re-start the client.
Oh, and it doesn't work with v7.
I was using it with v6 and had no luck (still running it on my laptop and can't get it to work), but then I switched to v7 on my desktop. I'm a fan (it's much more similar to the BOINC interface that I'm used to. AND PAUSING WORKS NOW! I had never been able to get pause to work before.
Anyway, numbers on ppd:
~15-16k for GPU3
~6.5k on SMP
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wieschie said:
I was using it with v6 and had no luck (still running it on my laptop and can't get it to work), but then I switched to v7 on my desktop. I'm a fan (it's much more similar to the BOINC interface that I'm used to. AND PAUSING WORKS NOW! I had never been able to get pause to work before.Anyway, numbers on ppd:
~15-16k for GPU3
~6.5k on SMP
I used to use fahman and hfm.net with v6 with no issues.
Hopefully someone will develop something similar for v7.
v7 is so much easier to setup but still has a lot of annoying bugs.
I was thinking the 570 would have higher ppd but I suppose it depends on the wu's, I get anything from 11-16k on my GTX460.
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EXT64 said:
Yay, top producer on the team - for a couple hours. I'll be shutting down for break tonight.Nice Christmas present for AK, 2nd on the producers chart, total devastation......
Nice work team, have a great Christmas or Holidays, hopefully Santa will bring some new hardware for the New Year.
Thats if he can get down the chimney.
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wieschie
December 23, 2011 3:58:01 PM
AK419
December 25, 2011 1:51:35 AM
AK419
December 25, 2011 1:57:18 PM
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