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Now if Intel can create a new branding for mobile CPUs, then how about toying around with the idea of various levels of core desktop CPUs such as this:
Core i3 = 2 cores / 4 threads
Core i4 = 4 cores / 4 threads
Core i5 = 4 cores / 8 threads
Core i6 = 6 cores / 6 threads
Core i7 = 6 cores / 12 threads
Core i8 = 8 cores / 16 threads
Core i9 Extreme Edition = 8 cores / 32 threads (quad-hyperthreading)
Core i3 = 2 cores / 4 threads
Core i4 = 4 cores / 4 threads
Core i5 = 4 cores / 8 threads
Core i6 = 6 cores / 6 threads
Core i7 = 6 cores / 12 threads
Core i8 = 8 cores / 16 threads
Core i9 Extreme Edition = 8 cores / 32 threads (quad-hyperthreading)
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Reply to Joseph DeGarmo
^^ confusing customers with zargons leads to moar sales. it's a tried and true practice.
intel's 6 core cpus are so high price that intel doesn't feel the need to extort customers by disabling features, this is why the 6 core cpus have HT and other features like unlocked multiplier, vt-d enabled. however, if sales pick up and prices drop, we might see non-HT hex cores. could take 3-4 more years if traditional "big" cpus still exist in the future.
edit:
tsx go bye bye for now
http://techreport.com/news/26911/errata-prompts-intel-t...
edit: asrock x99 unveiling and another haswell platform diagram:
http://chinese.vr-zone.com/123929/asrock-x99x-killer-sh...
intel's 6 core cpus are so high price that intel doesn't feel the need to extort customers by disabling features, this is why the 6 core cpus have HT and other features like unlocked multiplier, vt-d enabled. however, if sales pick up and prices drop, we might see non-HT hex cores. could take 3-4 more years if traditional "big" cpus still exist in the future.
edit:
tsx go bye bye for now
http://techreport.com/news/26911/errata-prompts-intel-t...
edit: asrock x99 unveiling and another haswell platform diagram:
http://chinese.vr-zone.com/123929/asrock-x99x-killer-sh...
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Reply to de5_Roy
Joseph DeGarmo said:
Now if Intel can create a new branding for mobile CPUs, then how about toying around with the idea of various levels of core desktop CPUs such as this:Core i3 = 2 cores / 4 threads
Core i4 = 4 cores / 4 threads
Core i5 = 4 cores / 8 threads
Core i6 = 6 cores / 6 threads
Core i7 = 6 cores / 12 threads
Core i8 = 8 cores / 16 threads
Core i9 Extreme Edition = 8 cores / 32 threads (quad-hyperthreading)
lol, love the idea, maybe we can have the a Thread Multiplier in front and the number of cores after the i
So a X4 Core i1 would be 1 core/ 4 threads, and would be priced below the current Pentiums, or priced the same as a Pentium when sold with GT3 Graphics. The unlocked ones can be the same price as AMD A10 APUs
A X2 Core i2 would be today's i3s
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Reply to Alpha3031
bosscode
August 16, 2014 6:01:13 AM
Well it's always been a question of what's currently out, not atypically what the people what. Take current generation, it's old news. We will be well surprised to as to how this company supports the derivative. I predict a linking of the generation growth in population as to how it pertains to the user.
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Reply to bosscode
Intel Haswell-E i7 5960X, i7 5930K and i7 5820K pricing revealed
http://videocardz.com/51380/intel-haswell-e-i7-5960x-i7...
from the leaked slides, the most interesting thing is the embargo notice, which lifts on august 29.
hsw-e transistor count: 2.6 Billion. die size: 17.6mm x 20.2 mm.
up to 14% game physics(extreme preset) and a.i. according to 3dmark firestrike benchmark, over core i7 4960x.
http://videocardz.com/51380/intel-haswell-e-i7-5960x-i7...
from the leaked slides, the most interesting thing is the embargo notice, which lifts on august 29.
hsw-e transistor count: 2.6 Billion. die size: 17.6mm x 20.2 mm.
up to 14% game physics(extreme preset) and a.i. according to 3dmark firestrike benchmark, over core i7 4960x.
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Reply to de5_Roy
wireframed
August 28, 2014 11:15:15 PM
de5_Roy said:
Intel Haswell-E i7 5960X, i7 5930K and i7 5820K pricing revealed http://videocardz.com/51380/intel-haswell-e-i7-5960x-i7...
from the leaked slides, the most interesting thing is the embargo notice, which lifts on august 29.
hsw-e transistor count: 2.6 Billion. die size: 17.6mm x 20.2 mm.
up to 14% game physics(extreme preset) and a.i. according to 3dmark firestrike benchmark, over core i7 4960x.
Well... given the 5960x has 2 more cores than the 4960x, 14% faster is actually slower per-core. (Which, according to these numbers, would mean the 5930k is slower than the 4930k...)
L.
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Reply to wireframed
wireframed said:
de5_Roy said:
Intel Haswell-E i7 5960X, i7 5930K and i7 5820K pricing revealed http://videocardz.com/51380/intel-haswell-e-i7-5960x-i7...
from the leaked slides, the most interesting thing is the embargo notice, which lifts on august 29.
hsw-e transistor count: 2.6 Billion. die size: 17.6mm x 20.2 mm.
up to 14% game physics(extreme preset) and a.i. according to 3dmark firestrike benchmark, over core i7 4960x.
Well... given the 5960x has 2 more cores than the 4960x, 14% faster is actually slower per-core. (Which, according to these numbers, would mean the 5930k is slower than the 4930k...)
L.
It even has a lower Per-Core IPC 8/6*3.5/4.0=1.166 which is about 17 % not 14 %
it simply means more cores aren't scaled very well with today's compute applications.
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Reply to Alpha3031
wireframed
August 28, 2014 11:50:14 PM
Alpha3031 said:
wireframed said:
de5_Roy said:
Intel Haswell-E i7 5960X, i7 5930K and i7 5820K pricing revealed http://videocardz.com/51380/intel-haswell-e-i7-5960x-i7...
from the leaked slides, the most interesting thing is the embargo notice, which lifts on august 29.
hsw-e transistor count: 2.6 Billion. die size: 17.6mm x 20.2 mm.
up to 14% game physics(extreme preset) and a.i. according to 3dmark firestrike benchmark, over core i7 4960x.
Well... given the 5960x has 2 more cores than the 4960x, 14% faster is actually slower per-core. (Which, according to these numbers, would mean the 5930k is slower than the 4930k...)
L.
It even has a lower Per-Core IPC 8/6*3.5/4.0=1.166 which is about 17 % not 14 %
it simply means more cores aren't scaled very well with today's compute applications.
I was in a hurry, so didn't get to flesh out my comment.
Of course scaling is probably the issue, which is why comparing a 6-core to an 8-core across a lot of apps is meaningless.
They do claim 33% increase in 3D, which normally scales almost linearly up to many, many cores. That corresponds to the increase from 6->8 cores. I would have assumed more performance from IPC increases, faster bandwidth (4-channel DDR4) and general platform improvements.
Now, obviously this is just a marketing slide, so drawing any conclusions other than very general ones would be foolish.
Luckily today is the official release, so hopefully we'll see actual benchmarks soon. My i7 930 is waaay overdue for replacement.
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Reply to wireframed
MSI X99S GAMING 7 (Intel LGA 2011v3)
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/X99S_GAMING_7/
haswell-e i7 5930k cpu, 16GB (4x 4GB) gskill ripjaws4 ddr4 ram.
this is the first hsw-e review i could find. hopefully this is the first of many to come out in the next few days.
Skylake-S has hardware speech acceleration
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/35626-skylake-s-has-h...
edit: haswell-e and x99 reviews
tomshardware's
Intel Core i7-5960X, -5930K And -5820K CPU Review: Haswell-E Rises
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-5960x...
anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/the-intel-haswell-e-...
techreport
http://techreport.com/review/26977/intel-core-i7-5960x-...
pc perspective
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Haswell-E-Intel...
guru3d
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/core-i7-5960x-5930...
tweaktown
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6620/intel-core-i7-596...
edit3:
Alienware's Area-51 gaming desktop reborn as a powerful Haswell-E-packing triangle
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2600341/alienwares-area-...
edit4:
sata ports!! asrock x99 extreme11 has so many of them...
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/39996/asrock-x99-extreme-...
Broadwell to be faster than Skylake-S in desktop
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/35645-broadwell-to-be...
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/X99S_GAMING_7/
haswell-e i7 5930k cpu, 16GB (4x 4GB) gskill ripjaws4 ddr4 ram.
this is the first hsw-e review i could find. hopefully this is the first of many to come out in the next few days.
Skylake-S has hardware speech acceleration
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/35626-skylake-s-has-h...
edit: haswell-e and x99 reviews
tomshardware's
Intel Core i7-5960X, -5930K And -5820K CPU Review: Haswell-E Rises
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-5960x...
anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8426/the-intel-haswell-e-...
techreport
http://techreport.com/review/26977/intel-core-i7-5960x-...
pc perspective
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Processors/Haswell-E-Intel...
guru3d
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/core-i7-5960x-5930...
tweaktown
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/6620/intel-core-i7-596...
edit3:
Alienware's Area-51 gaming desktop reborn as a powerful Haswell-E-packing triangle
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2600341/alienwares-area-...
edit4:
sata ports!! asrock x99 extreme11 has so many of them...
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/39996/asrock-x99-extreme-...
Broadwell to be faster than Skylake-S in desktop
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/35645-broadwell-to-be...
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Reply to de5_Roy
--Andre Yang--
September 3, 2014 2:21:27 PM
jed
September 4, 2014 3:54:28 AM
Intel's Broadwell Core M Processor: New Details, SKUs and Specifics
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-broadwell-core-m...
from the die shot, looks like intel is finally treating the igpu better.
edit:
Intel Xeon E5-2600 V3 Review: Haswell-EP Redefines Fast
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-xeon-e5-2600-...
anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/print/8423/intel-xeon-e5-versi...
semiaccurate
http://semiaccurate.com/2014/09/08/intel-launches-grant...
edit2:
Intel Publishes Initial Skylake Linux Graphics Support
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc4...
no dt gt2
Intel Core i7 5960X Haswell-E On Linux
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=inte...
Yet Another Linux Distro Trying To Cater Towards Gamers
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc4...
edit3:
Intel's Broadwell Core M-5Y70: The First Benchmarks
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-m-broadwell...
Intel Skylake's MPX Is Closer To Providing Linux Memory Protection
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc4...
Intel Finally Documents Broadwell's Compute Architecture
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc4...
skylake-s will have dx12 hardware support (german website)
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/DirectX-12-Software-25552...
edit4:
Intel discloses details of Xeon D processors (formerly broadwell d.e.)
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014091701_Intel_dis...
8 cores with HT, 1.5MB L3 cache per core, up to 128GB ecc/ddr3/4 memory, p.c.h. will support 6 sata 3.0 ports, tdp frm 15w to 45w.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-broadwell-core-m...
from the die shot, looks like intel is finally treating the igpu better.
edit:
Intel Xeon E5-2600 V3 Review: Haswell-EP Redefines Fast
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-xeon-e5-2600-...
anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/print/8423/intel-xeon-e5-versi...
semiaccurate
http://semiaccurate.com/2014/09/08/intel-launches-grant...
edit2:
Intel Publishes Initial Skylake Linux Graphics Support
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc4...
no dt gt2
Intel Core i7 5960X Haswell-E On Linux
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=inte...
Yet Another Linux Distro Trying To Cater Towards Gamers
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc4...
edit3:
Intel's Broadwell Core M-5Y70: The First Benchmarks
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-m-broadwell...
Intel Skylake's MPX Is Closer To Providing Linux Memory Protection
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc4...
Intel Finally Documents Broadwell's Compute Architecture
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc4...
skylake-s will have dx12 hardware support (german website)
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/DirectX-12-Software-25552...
edit4:
Intel discloses details of Xeon D processors (formerly broadwell d.e.)
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014091701_Intel_dis...
8 cores with HT, 1.5MB L3 cache per core, up to 128GB ecc/ddr3/4 memory, p.c.h. will support 6 sata 3.0 ports, tdp frm 15w to 45w.
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Reply to de5_Roy
juanrga
September 18, 2014 3:20:26 PM
juanrga said:
Anyone knows if Skylake will use Larrabe cores for graphics?Well, this is what google turned up: http://www.techradar.com/au/news/computing-components/g...
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Reply to Alpha3031
juanrga
September 19, 2014 3:44:09 AM
Alpha3031 said:
juanrga said:
Anyone knows if Skylake will use Larrabe cores for graphics?Well, this is what google turned up: http://www.techradar.com/au/news/computing-components/g...
Yes thanks. And some more recent link?
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Reply to juanrga
juanrga said:
Alpha3031 said:
juanrga said:
Anyone knows if Skylake will use Larrabe cores for graphics?Well, this is what google turned up: http://www.techradar.com/au/news/computing-components/g...
Yes thanks. And some more recent link?
Not really, no https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Skylake+Larrabe+core...
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Reply to Alpha3031
juanrga
September 22, 2014 8:51:11 AM
Alpha3031 said:
juanrga said:
Alpha3031 said:
juanrga said:
Anyone knows if Skylake will use Larrabe cores for graphics?Well, this is what google turned up: http://www.techradar.com/au/news/computing-components/g...
Yes thanks. And some more recent link?
Not really, no https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Skylake+Larrabe+core...
I found this. It is interesting read
https://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/topic/499225
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Reply to juanrga
If you're a LoL fan that is an enormous boost from just a driver update. 106%
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http://www.dailytech.com/MacBook+Air+Surface+Pro+3+Boos...
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Reply to Cazalan
T04ST
September 24, 2014 11:28:40 AM
Hey all, I've had a read through this thread and I couldn't quite get the info I was looking for.
I'm looking at buying an i5490k for my gaming build but I don't want to do that if there's a newer chip coming in the next 6 months. Is there a Broadwell desktop CPU coming at the start of next year or is it a minature/tablet one only? If so, does that mean that Skylark will be the next gen at the end of 2015?
Thanks a lot.
I'm looking at buying an i5490k for my gaming build but I don't want to do that if there's a newer chip coming in the next 6 months. Is there a Broadwell desktop CPU coming at the start of next year or is it a minature/tablet one only? If so, does that mean that Skylark will be the next gen at the end of 2015?
Thanks a lot.
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Reply to T04ST
T04ST said:
Hey all, I've had a read through this thread and I couldn't quite get the info I was looking for.I'm looking at buying an i5490k for my gaming build but I don't want to do that if there's a newer chip coming in the next 6 months. Is there a Broadwell desktop CPU coming at the start of next year or is it a minature/tablet one only? If so, does that mean that Skylark will be the next gen at the end of 2015?
Thanks a lot.
Broadwell is just a die shrink so not that big of a deal for a desktop gaming machine. Late 2015H1 is the rumor for desktop so between 6-9 months. Skylake is 2015H2 and likely on the later side of that.
Broadwell mobile is already shipping and should appear on the shelves before XMAS.
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Reply to Cazalan
lobterm
October 14, 2014 12:50:19 AM
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Reply to lobterm
The Skylake GT4e reiterated at 72 EU (9th gen). 50% more than GT3e.
Also 64MB (ULP) or 128MB (H) options.
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014101501_More_deta...
Also 64MB (ULP) or 128MB (H) options.
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014101501_More_deta...
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Reply to Cazalan
Google's Nexus Player (Google TV) powered by Baytrail. Shocker!
"The $99 Player, built by Asus, runs a 1.8GHz quad core Intel Atom processor and twin-aerial 802.11ac Wi-Fi, and has an HDMI-out port for wired connections. "
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/15/google_updates_...
"The $99 Player, built by Asus, runs a 1.8GHz quad core Intel Atom processor and twin-aerial 802.11ac Wi-Fi, and has an HDMI-out port for wired connections. "
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/15/google_updates_...
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Reply to Cazalan
Cazalan said:
Google's Nexus Player (Google TV) powered by Baytrail. Shocker!"The $99 Player, built by Asus, runs a 1.8GHz quad core Intel Atom processor and twin-aerial 802.11ac Wi-Fi, and has an HDMI-out port for wired connections. "
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/15/google_updates_...
That is a very interesting win for Intel. I've been trying to figure out why the Atoms are the better choice for Google there, but nothing really comes to mind.
Cheers!
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Reply to Yuka
Yuka said:
Cazalan said:
Google's Nexus Player (Google TV) powered by Baytrail. Shocker!"The $99 Player, built by Asus, runs a 1.8GHz quad core Intel Atom processor and twin-aerial 802.11ac Wi-Fi, and has an HDMI-out port for wired connections. "
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/15/google_updates_...
That is a very interesting win for Intel. I've been trying to figure out why the Atoms are the better choice for Google there, but nothing really comes to mind.
Cheers!
to me it is obvious, price ! Intel can give deep discounts and guarantee production. something samsung and tsmc cannot do,
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