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February 20, 2014 6:09:19 AM

Cazalan said:
With PCs stagnating they're better off ramping Cherry Trail first.

i agree. intel is finally adding a decent-looking (from the specs) igpu and better memory support. although i couldn't gather if the imc has dual channel support. i also couldn't find anything about intel's plans with their lte modems. qualcomm has integrated lte and it wiped the floor with design wins last year. mediatek has one design with integrated lte modem (3rd party iirc) too.

this guy thinks cherry trail may have short shelf life:
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/01/27/a-tale...
the site is openly intel-biased, though.

edit:
Broadwell NUC roadmap
http://www.fanlesstech.com/2014/02/exclusive-broadwell-...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7773/intels-three-version...
bonus(!): haswell-ep's eng. sample..?
February 22, 2014 8:22:08 AM

de5_Roy said:
i also couldn't find anything about intel's plans with their lte modems. qualcomm has integrated lte and it wiped the floor with design wins last year. mediatek has one design with integrated lte modem (3rd party iirc) too.

I suspect you're already aware of the XMM7160 LTE modem. While I certainly can't divulge roadmaps, suffice it to say we're painfully aware of how important LTE capability is in the US market.

* Not speaking for Intel Corporation *

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February 26, 2014 6:40:39 AM

New Intel drivers enable Quick Sync on some Pentium, Celeron chips
http://techreport.com/news/26083/new-intel-drivers-enab...
can i have hyperthreading enabled on my i5? pretty please! :-3 :ange: 

Take a look at Intel’s Merrifield reference design on display at MWC 2014
http://vr-zone.com/articles/take-look-merrifield-refere...

Intel loses control of baseband market
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/34055-intel-loses-con...
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March 10, 2014 1:17:49 PM


Intel 256 node NOC
http://slashdot.org/topic/datacenter/on-chip-network-ma...

"The demo chip contains a mesh of 256 nodes with independent voltages and clocks and aggregate throughput of 20.2 terabits/second among nodes, according to Intel’s paper on the chip, which is titled: “A 340mV-to-0.9V 20.2Tb/s Source-Synchronous Hybrid Packet/Circuit-Switched 16×16 Network-on-Chip in 22nm Tri-Gate CMOS.”"
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March 12, 2014 12:05:43 AM

Intel Haswell-E X99 Chipset “Wellsburg” Details Leaked – With DDR4 Support and Coming in June
http://wccftech.com/intel-haswelle-x99-chipset-wellsbur...
10 sata 6Gb/s ports and 40 pcie gen 3.0 lanes from the cpu, capable of 5x8 configuration (quad sli + physx? :p ). the socket is lga2011-3.
i'm more worried about the fivr in the cpu. xbitlabs was not impressed with how it jacked up cpu vcore too much during o.c. (in auto modes.), making offset-based o.c. very difficult.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/haswell-ov...
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March 19, 2014 10:45:20 PM

Intel Confirms Devil's Canyon, Haswell-E, Broadwell Rumors
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-haswell-e-devils...
new stuff:



because people ask for intel's unlocked dual core, so it's here. to annihilate amd's cheap quadcores. or not. fx6300 is so cheap...

this my first time seeing "better t.i.m." being pitched as an attraction. intel did make desktop users suffer since ivy bridge, though. :lol: 
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March 20, 2014 5:51:38 AM

Quote:
this my first time seeing "better t.i.m." being pitched as an attraction. intel did make desktop users suffer since ivy bridge, though. :lol: 


Still will unless they go back to using solder. There is no replacement for it...
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March 21, 2014 12:18:07 AM

Unlocked Pentium huh, what about i3? Something tells me AMD will only be selling video cards soon.

Between BayTrail-D and unlocked Pentiums the low end is getting crushed.
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March 21, 2014 11:34:55 AM

^ i am sure that they will price it equal to top i3 chips which is not that bad
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March 25, 2014 9:07:54 AM

de5_Roy said:
Haswell refresh to ship next month
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/34298-haswell-refresh...
april 1st? :p 

intel iris pro powered gigabyte brix pro runs indie game developer coffee stain's goat simulator at gdc demo
http://semiaccurate.com/2014/03/25/goat-simulator-best-...
not amd! :pt1cable: 
move over crysis 3, next gamers will ask,"can it run goat simulator?".


this phrase seemed never ending to me, but finally i read it to the end in first try :p 

BAA.. :p 
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March 25, 2014 9:34:36 AM

truegenius said:


this phrase seemed never ending to me, but finally i read it to the end in first try :p 

BAA.. :p 

there are longer. replace "coffee stains" with "wayforward technologies" and "goat simulator" with any of these - "SpongeBob SquarePants: Creature from the Krusty Krab", "Adventure Time: Hey Ice King! Why'd You Steal Our Garbage?!" or "Adventure Time: Explore the Dungeon Because I DON’T KNOW!".
...
...
...
and replace "intel iris pro" with "intel core i7 4770R with iris pro graphics". :p 
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April 9, 2014 11:10:33 AM

if you're a uber hardcore amd enthusiast, looking for a way to cool your toasty new quadfired radeon r9 295 x2 and overclocked fx9590 rig? i know how. :whistle: 
http://semiaccurate.com/2014/04/09/3m-intel-sgi-immersi...

does this mean no more costa rica (cpu o.c. friendly) cpus?
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2141700/intel-cuts-1500-...

Xeon Phi 7120A 22nm Knights Corner launched
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/34454-xeon-phi-7120a-...
Broadwell will miss back-to-school spree
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/34418-broadwell-will-...

edit:
Intel Core "Haswell" Refresh CPUs Launch Date Revealed
http://www.techpowerup.com/199755/intel-core-haswell-re...
Quote:

It looks like Intel will launch its Core "Haswell" Refresh line of processors sooner than Computex 2014. According to sources in the IT retail, Intel could launch these new chips, led by the Core i7-4790K, on May 10th in most markets.

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April 10, 2014 10:47:14 AM

I'm more interested in when the ones with new TIM will launch.
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April 10, 2014 10:59:52 AM

Cazalan said:
I'm more interested in when the ones with new TIM will launch.

intel's promo slide says "unlocked 4th gen core processor", with "improved t.i.m." et al, codename devil's canyon. that points to core i7 4790k, i5 4690k cpus as the devil's canyon cpus.
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April 10, 2014 8:34:31 PM

Prob early-mid May for the base refresh and Z97 mobos, the Devils Canyon in third quarter
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April 14, 2014 9:10:03 AM

Intel boosting multi-monitor support out of the box, and bye-bye VGA.


"The "Cherryview" Atom processors feature "Gen8" graphics (Broadwell) capabilities, there's three display pipes, three HDMI/DisplayPort/EmbeddedDisplayPort ports, two MIPI DSI display ports, and VGA support has been dropped from Cherryview. "


http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY2...
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April 15, 2014 11:33:24 AM

Yes but only 2 cores
April 15, 2014 4:47:31 PM

I didn'te realize that there was such little difference between the mobile i5 and i3 CPUs. According to the minimal data on that chart there doesn't even appear to be any difference...
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April 15, 2014 11:38:32 PM

Isaiah4110 said:
I didn'te realize that there was such little difference between the mobile i5 and i3 CPUs. According to the minimal data on that chart there doesn't even appear to be any difference...

in desktop, the obvious difference is in core count. the exception is the lowest end core i3, which has less L3 cache and prolly lower tier igpu. in mobile it's mainly in L3 cache size, turbo, clockrates and some instruction sets and fixed function features like aes-ni. mobile i3 has no turbo boost. mobile i5 and i7 both have turbo boost and ht, but dual core i7 has more L3 cache and higher end ones have 4 core with ht. some of the higher end mobile i7 may be overclockable.
intel is quite helpful in conveying those differences in their model numbering scheme.


that last bit isn't true.

edit:
"Broadwell has been qualified for production to begin this month, executives said."
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2144160/as-pc-market-sta...

Intel releases Windows and Android cross-platform development tool INDE
http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-releases-windows-andr...

April 16, 2014 8:00:29 AM

de5_Roy said:
Isaiah4110 said:
I didn'te realize that there was such little difference between the mobile i5 and i3 CPUs. According to the minimal data on that chart there doesn't even appear to be any difference...

in desktop, the obvious difference is in core count. the exception is the lowest end core i3, which has less L3 cache and prolly lower tier igpu. in mobile it's mainly in L3 cache size, turbo, clockrates and some instruction sets and fixed function features like aes-ni. mobile i3 has no turbo boost. mobile i5 and i7 both have turbo boost and ht, but dual core i7 has more L3 cache and higher end ones have 4 core with ht. some of the higher end mobile i7 may be overclockable.
intel is quite helpful in conveying those differences in their model numbering scheme.


that last bit isn't true.

edit:
"Broadwell has been qualified for production to begin this month, executives said."
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2144160/as-pc-market-sta...

Intel releases Windows and Android cross-platform development tool INDE
http://vr-zone.com/articles/intel-releases-windows-andr...


That's what I would have expected to see, but the chart is showing the same L3 cache (3MB) on all mobile i5 and i3 refresh models. They also all have HT (2 cares, 4 threads) and the top model in each refresh line has the same frequency. The majority of the i3 models actually appear to be running at a faster frequency than their i5 brethren.



So that's what has me baffled here. There either has to be an error in the chart here or the only differences between these processors are in instruction set capabilities and igpu capabilities not reflected in the chart.
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April 16, 2014 8:15:06 AM

Isaiah4110 said:
Spoiler

That's what I would have expected to see, but the chart is showing the same L3 cache (3MB) on all mobile i5 and i3 refresh models. They also all have HT (2 cares, 4 threads) and the top model in each refresh line has the same frequency. The majority of the i3 models actually appear to be running at a faster frequency than their i5 brethren.

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/14-04-14/Intel_Haswell_R...

So that's what has me baffled here. There either has to be an error in the chart here or the only differences between these processors are in instruction set capabilities and igpu capabilities not reflected in the chart.

that chart only shows base clockrate. like i said, mobile i5 has turbo boost unlike mobile i3 cpus. that's one of the main differences between those.
April 16, 2014 1:40:49 PM

That definitely helps explain things. Thanks for the clarification.
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April 21, 2014 10:11:23 PM

intel woulda gotten away with contra revenue in china, if it hadn't been for meddling mediatek
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/34548-intel-and-media...

Internal Intel chart confirms May 11 release date for Haswell refresh
http://vr-zone.com/articles/internal-intel-charts-confi...
very late edit: the same article has june 2, 2014 as devil's canyon cpus' release date.
Asus’ Z97 motherboard series revealed on Weibo
http://vr-zone.com/articles/asus-z97-motherboard-series...
is it gold? is it desert themed? is it still fussy about rams? :pt1cable: 

TSMC’s 20nm follies could be making a market for Intel
http://vr-zone.com/articles/tsmcs-20nm-follies-making-m...

edit2:
z97 motherboards get listed and early-priced
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7986/z97-motherboards-lis...

edit3:

New details on Intel’s ‘Skylake’ revealed
http://vr-zone.com/articles/new-details-intels-skylake-...

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May 7, 2014 8:59:04 AM

de5_Roy said:

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6319/intel-core-i7-47...
i wonder how multicore/enhanced turbo will work with the new cpus....


Judging by the temps it looks like the new TIM is on the refresh parts also, not just the Devil's Canyons versions.

There is a sizable 18c/10c (Idle/Load) difference between 4970 and 4770K.
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May 7, 2014 2:47:23 PM

de5_Roy said:

New details on Intel’s ‘Skylake’ revealed
http://vr-zone.com/articles/new-details-intels-skylake-...



If Intel continues the core doubling for each new GT number that would put GT4e at 96 EU.

96 (EU) x 16 (FP/EU) x 1.3 (GHz) = 1997 GFLOPS

Or if the higher 1.6Ghz rumor is true: 2458 GFLOPS

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May 8, 2014 12:34:57 AM

Intel integrates high-end PC graphics processors into Xeon server chips
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2152360/intel-integrates...

Cazalan said:

If Intel continues the core doubling for each new GT number that would put GT4e at 96 EU.

96 (EU) x 16 (FP/EU) x 1.3 (GHz) = 1997 GFLOPS

Or if the higher 1.6Ghz rumor is true: 2458 GFLOPS


that'll really affect the die size. amd's dies are approximately square, while iris pro socs are very rectangular. the edram at the end of the soc die makes the whole thing even more rectangular. i can't imagine gt4e running cool with the increased density and lengthened die and package size. on desktops, it'd alienate majority of the non-oem, 3rd party cpu coolers on the market. it'll also make coolers' bases' orientation very important for proper heat dissipation. on one end (the far end) you have the high performance, highly dense broadwell cpu running 4c/8t with 8 MB L3 cache, using around 40-60w+ on load e.g. gaming/prime95. on the other end you have 96 eus runing at 1.6 GHz, using 128MB EDRAM. there'd be a Lot of heat, lol. i read in gigabyte's brix pro's review that core i7 4770R can hit around 90-100c and sustain it's performance while sacrificing (round-aboutedly admitted by intel) silicon longevity.
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May 8, 2014 12:38:43 PM

de5_Roy said:

that'll really affect the die size. amd's dies are approximately square, while iris pro socs are very rectangular. the edram at the end of the soc die makes the whole thing even more rectangular. i can't imagine gt4e running cool with the increased density and lengthened die and package size. on desktops, it'd alienate majority of the non-oem, 3rd party cpu coolers on the market. it'll also make coolers' bases' orientation very important for proper heat dissipation. on one end (the far end) you have the high performance, highly dense broadwell cpu running 4c/8t with 8 MB L3 cache, using around 40-60w+ on load e.g. gaming/prime95. on the other end you have 96 eus runing at 1.6 GHz, using 128MB EDRAM. there'd be a Lot of heat, lol. i read in gigabyte's brix pro's review that core i7 4770R can hit around 90-100c and sustain it's performance while sacrificing (round-aboutedly admitted by intel) silicon longevity.


I don't think orientation matters all that much as it will be under the heat spreader. They have a decent shrink going from 22nm to 14nm with roughly 2x density increase. That would put the graphics at around 3/4 of the die, but still smaller than a current GT3e die. It's not like they're modifying the CPU cores that much.
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May 11, 2014 10:47:59 PM

The Intel Haswell Refresh Review: Core i7-4790, i5-4690 and i3-4360 Tested
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7963/the-intel-haswell-re...
i was oh-so-eagerly waiting for these cpus to come out! they are the best things since sliced bread!

but wait, there is moar. i mean moar reviewz, not more performance or cores.. :whistle: 
http://www.computerbase.de/2014-05/intel-core-i5-4690-i...
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/core_i7_4790_proce...
http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000598/

intel xeon e3 1231 v3 review
http://www.computerbase.de/2014-05/intel-xeon-e3-1231-v...

intel [REDACTED DUE TO NDA AS SEEN ON THE INTERNETS]-series chipset overview
http://techreport.com/review/26443/this-is-intel-9-seri...

edit:
devil's canyon clockrate revealed?
http://www.techpowerup.com/200725/intel-devils-canyon-t...
core i7 4790k - 4.0 GHz base, 4.4 turbo,
core i5 4690k - 3.5, 3.9.
both at 88w tdp. these chips are definitely binned considering general haswell o.c. clockrates. with better t.i.m., these may actually hit the magical number. although i expect heat generation to ramp up sharply after 4.5 ghz on all cores. in addition to that.. intel might charge "extra" for better packaging and binning. i am scared to imagine how much "extra"... :whistle: 

edit 2:
intel wants you to buy haswell-e for pcie 3.0 because they want to push iris pro in mainstream desktops (by snipping off pcie 3.0 support)
http://vr-zone.com/articles/computex-will-show-desktop-...
May 13, 2014 12:12:05 PM

Well, _Roy, Is v3 really that important anyway? And really, is the refresh necessary? Just more of the 5%-10% increase for the same price. Which is okay; I don't knock it, be happy.
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May 13, 2014 10:58:37 PM

ctbaars said:
Well, _Roy, Is v3 really that important anyway? And really, is the refresh necessary? Just more of the 5%-10% increase for the same price. Which is okay; I don't knock it, be happy.

that's how intel releases cpus. lga 1150 xeons accompany lga 1150 desktop cpus. they follow yearly refresh cadence. as usual intel tries to pursuade people to buy their latest products. lately, lga 11xx xeons gained reputation for being a bit cheaper than desktop core i7 cpus i.e. full cache and ht support along with full virtualization (for those xeons) at a cheaper price since intel disables vt-d support in pricier, unlocked core i7 cpus.
the refresh is more important to oems than it is to customers. if you have a core i5/i7 sandy bridge or later cpu, or even lga1156 core i5/i7, these won't get you a lot of performance. but oems refresh their pcs regularly and they want fresh new parts to show off and get people to buy them. moreover, intel's refresh cycle is longer this time. broadwell in rumored to come out later this year and in desktop next year. intel acknowledged the teething issues with their 14nm process, which caused the delays. this is why haswell refresh happened. another, less significant bit is that haswell chipsets received a new stepping and new interface support.
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May 21, 2014 9:11:13 PM

An i7-4790K with a frequency of up to 4.4 GHz? Yikes! That would make my grandfathered i7 look bad.
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May 21, 2014 9:48:17 PM

Joseph DeGarmo said:
An i7-4790K with a frequency of up to 4.4 GHz? Yikes! That would make my grandfathered i7 look bad.


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Should be better than that, most of the component manufacturers already have them for testing purposes an they OC a little better than regular Haswell, where 4.6 and higher isn't that unusual for the 4770K
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May 22, 2014 7:13:21 AM

devil's canyon rumored pricing

Intel Core i7-4790K, Core i5-4690K and Pentium G3258 Available For Pre-Order – Unlocked Pentium G3258 Specifications Confirmed
http://wccftech.com/intel-core-i7-4790k-4690k-pentium-g...
doesn't look half bad...well, considering the price stagnation and intel's pricing schemes.. gonna wait for retail prices after launch.
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May 22, 2014 7:45:31 AM

de5_Roy said:

doesn't look half bad...well, considering the price stagnation and intel's pricing schemes.. gonna wait for retail prices after launch.


I was expecting higher. Will have to see how this magical TIM performs first though. ;) 

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May 22, 2014 7:49:20 AM

Cazalan said:

I was expecting higher. Will have to see how this magical TIM performs first though. ;) 

i was, too. i was expecting the core i7 to be in $380 range, i5 in $260-270 range, and the pentium in $120-130 range. the d.c. pentium's price is a killer, if it's real or retailers sell it at that price. imagine what will happen once these hit microcenter. mc could repeat the legendary (imo) core i5 2500k's $160 sale.

edit:

But it’s a paper launch
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/34809-devil%E2%80%99s...

edit2:

Broadwell coming this year is a slimmed down version
http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/34824-broadwell-comin...
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May 27, 2014 7:31:23 AM

Intel Core i7 "Haswell-E" Processor Lineup Detailed
http://www.techpowerup.com/201243/intel-core-i7-haswell...
hex core cpu with 24 pcie 3.0 lanes for around $400. WUT. calling it LONG OVERDUE would be understatement of the last 5 years. of suffering.

take a gander at the new adata xpg ddr4 ram
http://www.techpowerup.com/201248/adatas-next-generatio...

if you have way too much free time, why not count transistors for lulz?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimhandy/2014/05/26/how-man...

Intel’s ‘Paradise Lost’
http://vr-zone.com/articles/intels-paradise-lost/77965....
well played, asus.
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May 27, 2014 1:08:01 PM

de5_Roy said:
Intel Core i7 "Haswell-E" Processor Lineup Detailed
http://www.techpowerup.com/201243/intel-core-i7-haswell...
hex core cpu with 24 pcie 3.0 lanes for around $400. WUT. calling it LONG OVERDUE would be understatement of the last 5 years. of suffering.


Quad-DDR4 for under $400. Not bad at all.

Now they're saying Broadwell/Skylake (desktop) launches will overlap in Q2 2015. Interesting.
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014052601_Intel_Sky...
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May 27, 2014 1:55:06 PM

Intel Enters into Strategic Agreement with Rockchip
http://www.techpowerup.com/201258/intel-enters-into-str...
i was under the impression that rockchip itself sells arm socs in the entry level markets. intel only has the integrated 3g/lte modem to offer here.
edit:
Intel Partners with Rockchip on new SoC for Chinese tablets
http://semiaccurate.com/2014/05/27/intel-partners-rockc...

haswell refresh cpus cause higher system power consumption, and are not necessarily cooler.. on a z87 motherboard:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/intel-hasw...


Cazalan said:

Quad-DDR4 for under $400. Not bad at all.

Now they're saying Broadwell/Skylake (desktop) launches will overlap in Q2 2015. Interesting.
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014052601_Intel_Sky...

let's check the timeline of rumored launches:
in q4: mobile broadwell skus with 2+2, 2 or 4+3/e configuration.
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014050101_Intel_Bro...
in q2 2015: dt brw, unlocked skus, lga1150, likely H and Z97 chipsets.
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014052001_Prelimina...
in h2 2015: dt skylake (skylake-s), lga-packaging, locked skus, 100 series chipset.
http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2014/2014050501_Intel_Sky...

if i assume intel is "on track with broadwell" per their claims, the timeline leaves a huge hole for mobile skylake skus and accepts delays of skylake's launch. the article's two links to older rumors point to significant upgrades with skylake e.g. 20 pcie 3.0 lanes, dmi 3.0, ddr4 - who on earth will pick brw even if it's unlocked? the possible explanations of overlap could be that -
  • intel will delay skylake dt's launch for unlocked brw.
  • dt brw will have very short shelf life, only to serve as minor upgrade over "haswell refresh". remember the earlier ruckus over snipping off pcie 3.0 support, bga cpus, possible mobocalypse.
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    May 29, 2014 4:54:14 PM

    ^^^^
    Broadwell/Devils Canyon has a smaller die size, therefore a smaller CPU itself, right?
    What is all of this Haswell E about. Just better watt to watt performance?
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    May 29, 2014 5:04:29 PM

    Haswell-E is basically all about extreme 6-core CPUs in high-end builds. They are high-powered 140w CPUs with no integrated graphics.
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    May 29, 2014 5:16:46 PM

    Joseph DeGarmo said:
    Haswell-E is basically all about extreme 6-core CPUs in high-end builds. They are high-powered 140w CPUs with no integrated graphics.


    So no i5 5670k :( 
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    May 29, 2014 10:20:28 PM

    XxD34THxX said:
    ^^^^
    Broadwell/Devils Canyon has a smaller die size, therefore a smaller CPU itself, right?
    What is all of this Haswell E about. Just better watt to watt performance?

    devil's canyon cpus will have the same die size as their respective haswell/refresh counterparts.
    broadwell will be fabbed on intel's 14nm node, so it should be smaller and denser than haswell.

    haswell-e is different. these are aimed at high end server/workstation and high end desktops. -e cpus have larger dies (compared to mainstream desktop ones), more cores and more pcie lanes.

    edit:
    from vr-zone chinese. you might need to translate to english or your language.
    devil's canyon i5 and i7 cpu-z screenshots. first intel stock 4GHz(base) cpu:
    http://chinese.vr-zone.com/114262/intel-devils-canyon-c...
    broadwell y series
    http://chinese.vr-zone.com/114968/intel-14nm-broadwell-...
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    June 1, 2014 11:45:33 AM

    one more day till devil's canyon's rumored launch........
    i hope to read reviews.....

    edit:
    Intel’s Devil’s Canyon Processors will Not be Supported on 8th Series Chipset, Pentium Anniversary Will Be
    http://wccftech.com/intel-devils-canyon-not-supported-8...

    edit2:
    At Computex, Intel's 'Moorefield' and 'Broadwell' chips span Android and Windows
    http://www.cnet.com/news/at-computex-intels-moorefield-...

    edit3:
    Broadwell expected at Computex
    http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/34880-broadwell-expec...
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