New Gaming Rig

[resurrection64]

Hi guys, i'm looking to built a budget gaming pc ($600). I will be light gaming but mostly working and stuff ! I was thinking of putting :

Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

MSI Z77A-G41 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard

G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory

Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card

Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case

Antec Basiq Plus 550W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply

Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer

I'm over budget ): Please Help me pick what to add and remove. d

 

[djangoringo]

If it's light gaming, then a 7770 will do, my suggestion, the antec vp-450 will be more than sufficient for it, it's a good psu for the price.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks




CPU:  Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($183.79 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard:  ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX  LGA1155 Motherboard  ($76.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory:  Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($47.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage:  Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card:  MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Case:  Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply:  Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply  ($37.65 @ Amazon) 
Optical Drive:  Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer  ($15.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $572.37
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Get the Case(Corsair 200R) in ncix us, it's 49.99$ even before mir get it with the hdd and you'll have free shipping since it's more than 100$ in the cart.

 

[resurrection64]

If it's light gaming, then a 7770 will do, my suggestion, the antec vp-450 will be more than sufficient for it, it's a good psu for the price.


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks




CPU:  Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($183.79 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard:  ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX  LGA1155 Motherboard  ($76.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory:  Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  ($47.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage:  Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ NCIX US) 
Video Card:  MSI Radeon HD 7770 1GB Video Card  ($89.99 @ Newegg) 
Case:  Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply:  Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply  ($37.65 @ Amazon) 
Optical Drive:  Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer  ($15.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $572.37
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)

Get the Case(Corsair 200R) in ncix us, it's 49.99$ even before mir get it with the hdd and you'll have free shipping since it's more than 100$ in the cart.

Thank You for the quick reply !! Will it be necessary to get a 3570k for maybe future overclocking?..

 

[g-unit1111]

I would do this for $600:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($175.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($76.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.45 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $616.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-12 01:42 EDT-0400)

Better GPU, slightly slower CPU.

 

[resurrection64]

I would do this for $600:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($175.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($76.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.45 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $616.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-12 01:42 EDT-0400)

Better GPU, slightly slower CPU.

Okay Thanks!! is ASRock a good and reliable brand?
Also, would you think i would need to overclock the i5 at all?

 

[djangoringo]

You can overclock with the z75 board, but just raise more 400 mhz, and that's it with these cpus, if you want more, you have to get the i5-3570k and an aftermarket cooler, but the i5 partially locked plus z75 pro 3 will do, though, for the price, i recommend getting the i5-3470, since it has the igp(if you need it) and slightly more clock speed, and it's not much more expensive.
Also that board is good for the price and it's reliable.
Also it should be noted the g-unit1111 build is not 616$, but $656.39 before mir(Base Total: $656.39), you have to pay that upfront and then wait for the mail in rebates, just a note, if you intend to keep in about 600$ without mir, if you're including mir, it's a good option.
If it's for casual gaming a 7770 will do, if you intend to play some demanding games, then a 7850 will be better.
Like this card : http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003551gocl

 

[michxymi]

For 600$ this is the best gaming build you can get!

Cougar Solution ATX Middle Tower Gaming Case Black 3X5.25 1X3.5 6X3.5INT 1X2.5INT USB3.0 No PSU

Fractal Integra R2 500W ATX 12V 80PLUS Bronze Power Supply 120mm Sleeve Bearing Fan

AMD FX-6300 FX-Series Six-Core Processor Edition, Black AM3 FD6300WMHKBOX

ASUS M5A97 R2.0 AMD970/SB950 ATX AM3+ DDR3 2PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 SATA3 USB3.0 CrossFireX Motherboard

Patriot Memory Viper 3 Series Venom Red DDR3 8GB 1866MHz (PC3 15000) Memory Kit PV38G186C9KRD

XFX Core Edition FX-787A-CNFC Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB SATA III 7200 RPM 16 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive - WD5000AAKX

Sum 609$ and you have a high quality case with USB III in front panel, 80+ Bronze PSU, unlocked CPU with huge overclocking potential (4,5+), full featured motherboard that is upgrade able to next generation CPUs from AMD, and more importantly the 7870!

 

[resurrection64]

You can overclock with the z75 board, but just raise more 400 mhz, and that's it with these cpus, if you want more, you have to get the i5-3570k and an aftermarket cooler, but the i5 partially locked plus z75 pro 3 will do, though, for the price, i recommend getting the i5-3470, since it has the igp(if you need it) and slightly more clock speed, and it's not much more expensive.
Also that board is good for the price and it's reliable.
Also it should be noted the g-unit1111 build is not 616$, but $656.39 before mir(Base Total: $656.39), you have to pay that upfront and then wait for the mail in rebates, just a note, if you intend to keep in about 600$ without mir, if you're including mir, it's a good option.
If it's for casual gaming a 7770 will do, if you intend to play some demanding games, then a 7850 will be better.
Like this card : http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003551gocl

Alright !! Is there a difference between the z77 and z75 chipsets? I'd probably just go with a 7770 because i won't play very intense games.

 

[resurrection64]

You can overclock with the z75 board, but just raise more 400 mhz, and that's it with these cpus, if you want more, you have to get the i5-3570k and an aftermarket cooler, but the i5 partially locked plus z75 pro 3 will do, though, for the price, i recommend getting the i5-3470, since it has the igp(if you need it) and slightly more clock speed, and it's not much more expensive.
Also that board is good for the price and it's reliable.
Also it should be noted the g-unit1111 build is not 616$, but $656.39 before mir(Base Total: $656.39), you have to pay that upfront and then wait for the mail in rebates, just a note, if you intend to keep in about 600$ without mir, if you're including mir, it's a good option.
If it's for casual gaming a 7770 will do, if you intend to play some demanding games, then a 7850 will be better.
Like this card : http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003551gocl

Alright !! Is there a difference between the z77 and z75 chipsets? I'd probably just go with a 7770 because i won't play very intense games.

 

[resurrection64]

which would be better , an i5 or a FX-6300? An FX-6300 has six cores so it would be better for rendering but with just browsing, working, gaming .. which one?!

 

[djangoringo]

The i5-3470 is a faster cpu overall(gaming and rendering) and has a lower power consumption :
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=702
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-8320-6300-4300_5.html#sect1

As for the difference between the z75 and z77, mainly is the ssd caching, and some pcie expansion slots(for multiple cards), you don't need those features with the current setup, so the z75 pro 3 will do just fine, it has plenty of features for the price, it was used in toms hardware 600$ recent build.

 

[g-unit1111]

I would do this for $600:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($175.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z75 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($76.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.45 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $616.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-12 01:42 EDT-0400)

Better GPU, slightly slower CPU.

Okay Thanks!! is ASRock a good and reliable brand?
Also, would you think i would need to overclock the i5 at all?

1. Yes

2. No need on this build and the 3350P can't be overclocked.

 

[resurrection64]

The i5-3470 is a faster cpu overall(gaming and rendering) and has a lower power consumption :
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=702
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/fx-8350-8320-6300-4300_5.html#sect1

As for the difference between the z75 and z77, mainly is the ssd caching, and some pcie expansion slots(for multiple cards), you don't need those features with the current setup, so the z75 pro 3 will do just fine, it has plenty of features for the price, it was used in toms hardware 600$ recent build.

So basically the Z77 and the Z75 have not much of a difference right?

 

[djangoringo]

Yes, for your needs, the z75 will do just fine.

 

[michxymi]

which would be better , an i5 or a FX-6300? An FX-6300 has six cores so it would be better for rendering but with just browsing, working, gaming .. which one?!

CPUs are identically close to perfomance and trade blows depending on the application. Going with FX 6300 means

a)you get a better GPU so better gaming perfomance

b)you can upgrade later because AM3+ socket will hold at least another generation of CPUs. LGA 1155 is being replaced now, so no more future upgrades

 

[g-unit1111]

which would be better , an i5 or a FX-6300? An FX-6300 has six cores so it would be better for rendering but with just browsing, working, gaming .. which one?!

CPUs are identically close to perfomance and trade blows depending on the application. Going with FX 6300 means

a)you get a better GPU so better gaming perfomance

b)you can upgrade later because AM3+ socket will hold at least another generation of CPUs. LGA 1155 is being replaced now, so no more future upgrades

But socket AM3 is how many years old now? Until they release a new socket they're never going to catch up with Intel in terms of sheer CPU performance no matter how fast they make their CPUs.

 

[michxymi]

First of all it's AM3+ not AM3...Secondly I wouldn't care how many years old it is. All I know is that AMD announced that next generation CPUs will be supported by AM3+!

They're already catch or even pass Intel in CPU perfomance depending the program/game. Secondly this is a gaming build and In such builds you should aim for the best possible GPU. And that's where AMD comes...same perfomance for 40$ less + better and upgradeable motherboards so saved money go for 7870

 

[djangoringo]

I think the title of the thread is misleading, the OP stated this : "I will be light gaming but mostly working and stuff "
And there's no proof yet, that the next amd cpus will run in the am3+ socket or that they're announced, rumors said only for 2014, and how knows it might be for a new socket or not.
For now intel takes the lead, and the i5 is the best option(though, the FX-6300 is also a good cpu for lower budgets) within the op budget, and for light gaming, a low end card will do.

 

[michxymi]

AM3+ will be compatible for sure

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2208525/amd-sticks-with-socket-am3-for-steamroller

http://www.eteknix.com/amd-1090fx-chipset-arrives-with-steamroller/

And while he can get the best possible GPU for his budget, and still have a nice CPU for what he will mostly do, why not to go with that?

 

[djangoringo]

Because it isn't needed if it's light gaming and most work and stuff ?
And those are just rumors, it's what it is, the second link is hardly to trust and it's old(226 days ago).
Until there's an official announcement it's just speculation.
And the fact is for today or for tomorrow the i5 is a better cpu, now if the op wants to go a bit cheaper, the fx-6300 is also a good cpu for the price, but the i5 is better and it fits in the budget.

 

[michxymi]

MD has said that its upcoming Vishera chip will not be the last to use Socket AM3+.

AMD's desktop Piledriver processor, which is better known by its Vishera codename, will use the firm's Socket AM3+, effectively meaning the chip is a drop-in replacement from previous generation Zambezi processors. The firm said that it will continue to support the AM3+ socket and that this won't be the last processor to use the socket.

Directly from the first link. I say what I have to say...I'll let ressurection64 decide now

 

[g-unit1111]

First of all it's AM3+ not AM3...Secondly I wouldn't care how many years old it is. All I know is that AMD announced that next generation CPUs will be supported by AM3+!

They're already catch or even pass Intel in CPU perfomance depending the program/game. Secondly this is a gaming build and In such builds you should aim for the best possible GPU. And that's where AMD comes...same perfomance for 40$ less + better and upgradeable motherboards so saved money go for 7870

AM3+ is pretty much the exact same socket as AM3, it was just meant for a guideline for motherboard manufacturers on how to tailor their BIOS to the latest chips.

I completely agree on getting the best GPU you can get for the money but having a good CPU helps too.

 

[resurrection64]

A FX-6300 consumes more power too right? Oh and which, Intel or AMD, has a better upgrade path?

 

[djangoringo]

The FX-6300 has a higher power consumption, some might say that am3+ has an upgrade path to the steamroller cpus, but as of it now i would get the best cpu possible, you can upgrade to an i7-3770k(totally unnecessary) with the intel, but there's no more cpus coming for the lga 1155.
It's up to you to see what's best for you.

 

[resurrection64]

hmm ok thanks ! i'll probably wait for the haswell first !