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Report: Nvidia Working on a Faster GeForce GTX 650 Ti

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a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2013 5:52:04 PM

Wow. All these competition on the entry-level gaming GPU market ought to benefit folks like me who are on a budget. Keep the salvoes up, AMD and nVidia!
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a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2013 6:00:39 PM

looks like a cute little thing! Not often I say that
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March 14, 2013 6:01:42 PM

The EVGA Super-super-clocked already jets from the factory @ 1030+mhz/sec clock, so maybe it's either to : A)make it more power compliant like the GTX650-E off the PCIx16 rails power, or B)3GBS of GDDR5....either is great news to the average budgeteer!

....or not.
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March 14, 2013 6:08:28 PM

spat55looks like a cute little thing! Not often I say that


You don't say it often, cause you hear it all the time! :) 
Sorry, I couldn't resist. But seriously, this is another example of how competition is great. I just wish they would do this for the 660ti.
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a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2013 6:24:10 PM

Well if we see a good competition from 650ti vs 7790, it would be epic for a lot of people's wallets.
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March 14, 2013 6:33:36 PM

i would rather see a standard 256bit memory bus, everything else is just an over clock
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a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2013 6:35:54 PM

Or you can focus on the GeForce 700 series instead... I think people are more likely to buy that.
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a c 87 U Graphics card
March 14, 2013 6:36:06 PM

Increasing the GPU frequency of the GTX 650 Ti a little will not change its performance by much at all. It's too extremely memory bandwidth bottle-necked. It'd be faster if they brought the GPU down to 576 cores at the same frequency and bumped up the memory interface to 192 bit at the same frequency. The GTX 660 and GTX 650 give very conclusive evidence for this.

lhugheyYou don't say it often, cause you hear it all the time! Sorry, I couldn't resist. But seriously, this is another example of how competition is great. I just wish they would do this for the 660ti.


The same is true for the 660 Ti. It's GPU is so memory bandwidth bottle-necked that increasing its frequency a little own't make much difference whereas increasing memory performance does make a difference (the GTX 670 and 680 prove this quite excellently).

If Nvidia wanted a decent improvement in either card without changing the hardware, then the best option would be to make a new reference specification with better memory for the 650 Ti (and also the 660 Ti if they wanted a higher performing version of it). Unfortunately, except for the unlikely scenario where Nvidia would also require better memory binning as well, I find it unlikely that this would help the overclocking community in getting more card options in this price range.

A higher GPU frequency wouldn't hurt, I'm just saying that it won't make much difference on its own, at least not unless it's a very big change.
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a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2013 6:36:14 PM

f-14 said:
i would rather see a standard 256bit memory bus, everything else is just an over clock


Not even 660ti has 256bit memory bus, so I wouldn't expect it from 650ti. A 192bit though would be nice but Nvidia said that they will not change any physical part :/ .
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March 14, 2013 7:17:59 PM

just make the new 650ti 768 core 24ROP + 192bit and 1.5GB VRAM. (saving 512MB for cost cutting) All these will give 7800 a serious kick.
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a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2013 7:47:19 PM

Good to see some signs of life from Nvidia in the budget space. I feel like they're being ripped a new one by the HD 7770 and HD 7850 1GB.

Though I desperately wanted this article to read: Report: Nvidia Working on a Cheaper GeForce GTX 660

EDIT - well lookee here, a cut-down GTX 660 for $150-170, and a price drop on the regular GTX 660!
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March 14, 2013 8:14:01 PM

I have the MSI version clocked at 993 MHz. Unlike some factory overclocked cards I've had in the past, this one has been dead reliable and quiet. I'm sure with a bit of heat sink improvement, the 650 Ti's have enough headroom for nice performance increase.
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a c 92 U Graphics card
March 14, 2013 8:47:50 PM

maybe overclocked with a 192 bit bus. Would be quite a bit faster with that.
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a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2013 9:02:10 PM

650 Ti GHz Edition? Most 650 Tis can OC to 1GHz anyway. The GDDR5 chips that come with them can (and should) be manually OC'd as well. The real news is that AMD's competing in the ~$150 space.
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a c 87 U Graphics card
March 14, 2013 9:04:59 PM

esrever said:
maybe overclocked with a 192 bit bus. Would be quite a bit faster with that.


Even at stock clocks, a 650 Ti with a 192 bit bus could easily compete with the 7790 and 7850 if priced similarly. It wouldn't be too much slower than the 660 at that point.
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March 14, 2013 10:12:19 PM

I really hope the bump isnt that huge, I literally just purchased one today :(  newegg has a galaxy model on sale for 110$. Its got a 966mhz clock though, maybe it will OC to match what nvidia has updated it to. Otherwise I'll be sad.
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March 14, 2013 10:43:09 PM

at least my one is bigger than that... and stronger.
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a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2013 11:42:46 PM

650 Ti has benefited nicely from the gap between 7770 and 7850, so they are probably worried about the 7790.

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March 15, 2013 5:14:38 AM

655 Ti, Anyone?
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a c 206 U Graphics card
March 15, 2013 6:34:25 AM

I slammed these when they came out for being cripples. A 128bit buss is an artificial limitation. That said, I got an eVGA superclocked GTX650Ti a month or so ago to test for myself, and it has been performing remarkably well in my relatively undemanding games. It is also quieter than I thought it would be, and doesn't generate anywhere near as much heat as the HD7870 that I normally use. It has restored my perspective that $150 will buy a reasonable graphics card.
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a c 206 U Graphics card
March 15, 2013 9:08:17 AM

Yeah, the lack of SLI, when the weaker HD7770 can do Crossfire, is another example of the way this card has been needlessly crippled.
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March 19, 2013 10:15:12 AM

lostmyclanbring sli to this shit and maybe i buy one


You mean buy two.
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a c 87 U Graphics card
March 19, 2013 10:27:47 AM

quotas47 said:
lostmyclanbring sli to this shit and maybe i buy one


You mean buy two.


He/she was probably saying that with SLI as an option, buying a second one as an upgrade later would be feasible, so he/she would be one of them soon, not two, but get the second later on.
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March 26, 2013 7:35:06 PM

Well, it's progress....2 weeks too late for me. EVGA GTX 650ti2gbs SC, still fresh outta da box.....ha!
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a c 206 U Graphics card
March 27, 2013 7:19:20 AM

I bought the GTX650Ti as much for testing as anything else, so I can't be too upset, but the new card, with SLI, is what this should have been all along. So yeah, I am a little bit bummed, although it's still nice for being such a small card.
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