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Need feedback on parts for new build before I order.

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March 15, 2013 2:19:21 PM

Final Check before I order, I am doing a Red/Black theme and tried to keep that theme for everything possible


Before anyone else says I am spending too much let me explain how this system will be used.


I think I need 6 cores because

I will be running the Telecine and converting the movies to AVI format (true Frame by frame conversion Raw no compression 40 minutes per reel) while that is running I take a 10 second sample clip from the last movie and run it through both tools (Vreveal and Avisynth I want to get a better GPU accelerated tool ) I select the one with the best output apply my filters then I have to stabilize, clean, sharpen, denoise and do frame rate conversion, then I convert the finish product and burn to a DVD/Blu Ray depending on which family member it is going too. my current system which is a quad core this process takes me 4 to 6 hours per reel.



CPU
Intel I7-3930K

Motherboard
Asus Rampage IV Extreme 2011

Memory
2 G.Skill Trident X series 4x8GB DDR3 2400

Power Supply ??
Thermal Take (unless I can find a Better Red and Black one) Sleeved Black and red 850W should do it.

Display
3x Asus VG248QE Black 24” Monitors

Video cards
2 Power Color PCS+ AX7970 3GBD5-2DHPPV VIDEO CARDS

Storage
OCZ Vertex 4 128Gb Sata III SSD (SSD Caching)
OCZ RevoDrive X2 250Gb (BOOT)
2 Western Digital RE WD2000FYYZ 2Tb 7200 RPM SATA 6G Enterprise Drives

DVD/CD/Blu Ray
2 Asus BW-12N1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu Ray DVD Burner

CASE
Mountain Mobs Ascension CYO (Black Power Coat)
Front Panel Trinty
Left Panel Acrylic Etched with Logo
Top Panel Acrylic
Right Panel Soild
Back Panel Horizon / PCI 10 Rear and EATX MB Board

Cooling
All Fittings are Black compression type
2 Black Ice GTX 360’s
2 EK Radeon 7970 VGA Liquid Cooling RAM Backplate - Black CSQ (EK-FC7970 Backplate - Black CSQ)
2 EK Radeon 7970 Acetal Blocks
Bitspower Summit EF CPU Liquid Cooling Block - Intel LGA Series - Ice Red Acrylic (BP-WBCPUIAC-CUMBKIRD)
Bitspower Dual Uber Series MCP655 Pumps
2 Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 400 Inline Reservoir - Ice Red (BP-WTZM400P-IRDBK)
Fans
20 Aerocool Shark Series 120mm Fans (Red)
2 Lamptron 30W - 4 Channel Aluminum Rheobus w/ Multi Color Backlit LED - Version 2 - Black (FC-5V2) (Black and Red)

LOOP

Radiator 1 to Reservoir to Pump to CPU to Radiator 2 to GPU1, 2 in Parallel back to Radiator 1

More about : feedback parts build order

March 15, 2013 2:31:55 PM

you dont need a pci-e boot SSD and a cache drive . One or the other , not both . The RE4 drives are not for desk tops

32 gig of RAM for a gamer? Complete waste of money .............but then most of the rest of the build is a triumph of spending over performance so yeah ......go for it
March 15, 2013 2:32:43 PM

Do not purchase a Revodrive. That's a ridiculous purchase for absolutely zero gain in storage performance. Plus these things have a far greater fail rate than anything else you could buy.

You also don't need DDR3 2400 or 64GB of RAM. Even hardcore rendering and editing uses you won't come close to using it all. If you're setting up a RAM disk that's one thing but otherwise you don't need that much.

This is why I never advocate building around a color scheme because it really limits what hardware you're able to buy.
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March 15, 2013 2:40:13 PM

I do VIdeo Transcoding trust me I need the 64G of ram I am not 100% sure I need both the PCIE Boot atthe ssd but I wanted to try SSD caching and create a Ram Disk to use as my scratch pool when doing video editing.

Is any of the gear I picked bad, I tried to get the best I could first and the color match second.



Outlander_04 said:
you dont need a pci-e boot SSD and a cache drive . One or the other , not both . The RE4 drives are not for desk tops with longer MTBF I was leaning towards the RE4 for the stability.


32 gig of RAM for a gamer? Complete waste of money .............but then most of the rest of the build is a triumph of spending over performance so yeah ......go for it


March 15, 2013 2:43:17 PM

I am setting up a Ramdisk and doing hardcare Video transcoding converting over 500 8mm Movies from my childhood and running the clean up restore and repair my current system takes nearly 6 hours per movie.
Each Reel takes about an hours to scan on my Telecine and then I apply corrections and run restores

g-unit1111 said:
Do not purchase a Revodrive. That's a ridiculous purchase for absolutely zero gain in storage performance. Plus these things have a far greater fail rate than anything else you could buy.

You also don't need DDR3 2400 or 64GB of RAM. Even hardcore rendering and editing uses you won't come close to using it all. If you're setting up a RAM disk that's one thing but otherwise you don't need that much.

This is why I never advocate building around a color scheme because it really limits what hardware you're able to buy.


March 15, 2013 3:20:52 PM

then you still dont need the caching SSD . Or the RE drives
Use WD blacks , or Seagates instead
March 15, 2013 3:33:38 PM

So You are suggestion drop the revodrive drop the SSD caching, drop the RE4 maybe add a raid 5 of WD Black 2tb Drives these movies get huge, drop the Memory to DDR3 1600 (which is not a huge price difference) likely CORSAIR Vengeance 64Gb kit drop the replace the revo and ssd with SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series 512GB



Care to explain ".............but then most of the rest of the build is a triumph of spending over performance so yeah ......go for it "

I respond much better to reasons of WHY and seeing this is not a system for just gaming I thought I had gotten good equipment for the intended use.


P.S. the Cheapest Price I found for someone to do a frame by frame of these movies was 3750 bucks+ and that didn't include any post production clean up and restore.
March 15, 2013 4:41:49 PM

FYI I picked the Asus Rampage IV Extreme 2011 because when I asked which of the top three Asus Rampage IV Extreme 2011 p9x79 Deluxe or MSI Big Bang the RIVE was the hands down favorite.
March 15, 2013 5:47:39 PM

I'd keep the REVO drive as a boot drive .
Its faster than any other option

Set up the hard drives as RAID 1 for data security ?

I think once you get more complex that that you start to endure the problems that complexity can bring as well as the speed

PS Win 8 has hard disk set up options that mean you dont even need a RAID to duplicate the drives
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/features/379408/windows-8-storag...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2012847/how-to-master-st...
March 15, 2013 8:02:52 PM

belezeebub said:
I am setting up a Ramdisk and doing hardcare Video transcoding converting over 500 8mm Movies from my childhood and running the clean up restore and repair my current system takes nearly 6 hours per movie.
Each Reel takes about an hours to scan on my Telecine and then I apply corrections and run restores

g-unit1111 said:
Do not purchase a Revodrive. That's a ridiculous purchase for absolutely zero gain in storage performance. Plus these things have a far greater fail rate than anything else you could buy.

You also don't need DDR3 2400 or 64GB of RAM. Even hardcore rendering and editing uses you won't come close to using it all. If you're setting up a RAM disk that's one thing but otherwise you don't need that much.

This is why I never advocate building around a color scheme because it really limits what hardware you're able to buy.




The Revodrive isn't going to fix that. Maybe get a couple of OCZ Vectors and run them in RAID 0 or RAID 1.
March 15, 2013 8:15:36 PM

The Revodrive uses 4 sandforce controllers to run what is effectively a 4 way RAID 0 SSD . With a much higher connection speed than via SATA ports

I wish I could afford one
March 15, 2013 11:51:42 PM

Outlander_04 said:
The Revodrive uses 4 sandforce controllers to run what is effectively a 4 way RAID 0 SSD . With a much higher connection speed than via SATA ports

I wish I could afford one


But that's also why they're so quick to fail. I forget which RAID configuration (I think RAID 10 but I'm not entirely sure) is that if one drive fails they all fail. So that could be the case with most Revodrives.
March 16, 2013 12:35:19 AM

g-unit1111 said:
Outlander_04 said:
The Revodrive uses 4 sandforce controllers to run what is effectively a 4 way RAID 0 SSD . With a much higher connection speed than via SATA ports

I wish I could afford one


But that's also why they're so quick to fail. I forget which RAID configuration (I think RAID 10 but I'm not entirely sure) is that if one drive fails they all fail. So that could be the case with most Revodrives.


Ok so they theoretically fail four times as often as an SSD ......which is to say, not often at all
March 16, 2013 5:30:17 AM

a 16GB Ramdisk set up as my scratch work area plus a faster multi core proc should drop that speed I am hoping for 2 hours total once I get the new GPU accelerated software also.

g-unit1111 said:
belezeebub said:
I am setting up a Ramdisk and doing hardcare Video transcoding converting over 500 8mm Movies from my childhood and running the clean up restore and repair my current system takes nearly 6 hours per movie.
Each Reel takes about an hours to scan on my Telecine and then I apply corrections and run restores

g-unit1111 said:
Do not purchase a Revodrive. That's a ridiculous purchase for absolutely zero gain in storage performance. Plus these things have a far greater fail rate than anything else you could buy.

You also don't need DDR3 2400 or 64GB of RAM. Even hardcore rendering and editing uses you won't come close to using it all. If you're setting up a RAM disk that's one thing but otherwise you don't need that much.

This is why I never advocate building around a color scheme because it really limits what hardware you're able to buy.




The Revodrive isn't going to fix that. Maybe get a couple of OCZ Vectors and run them in RAID 0 or RAID 1.



Not sure how to quote more then one person in a post so I will do it this way the Revo will be boot only and right now it is cheaper then 2 128Gb SSD in raid and it supports trim which doesn't have a driver for x79 yet. the reason for 64gb is to set aside a +16GB Scratch area and work totally in ram for the conversions that plus better GPU's and GPU accelerated software should take that 4 to 6 hours to under 2. if someone can suggest a better way I am all ears

March 18, 2013 6:03:34 AM

So Other then what has already been posted no one has issues with the WC gear I selected or video cards?
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