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March 16, 2013 4:49:17 PM

So, i gave up. It's been like 10 hours straight so far im trying to google out for a solution with no luck unfortunately.

Must ask to you guys, because i really don't know what to do anymore.

I recently bought a new computer, with a GTX 660ti video card. On some of the games i'm tring to play, i experience this annoying screen tearing problem. I'm not even sure if it's a real screen tear problem, dunno how to explain, sometimes while playing i see these kind of lines flashing over the screen (barely noticeable, but still annoying in my eyes).

I tried everythin, vsync, triple buffering, different kind of setting combinations between vsync, triple buffering, forcing it on my control panel, trying the adaptive vsync aswell, changing resolutions ecc, still having the same problem.

Only "Solution" i actually found was to set vsync on my nvidia control panel to "adaptive: half refresh rate". This way tears completely go away, but this way i got my ingame FPS capped to 30, which is kind of bad since i bought a new computer to run games smoothly.

I hope someone of you can help me out, because its been all day im trying to solve this problem, im exhausted. Thanks.

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March 16, 2013 4:57:25 PM

Have you checked the refresh rate setting of your monitor in the control panel? What type of cable are you using to connect to your monitor? Did you do a clean installation of the latest drivers from the Nvidia website?
March 16, 2013 4:57:34 PM

It sounds like you are not getting 60+ FPS, which is why normal adaptive vsync does not help you. If adaptive vsync: half refresh rate fixes the tearing, the normal v-sync will also, just do not use adaptive v-sync. The difference between the two is that adaptive v-sync turns off when your FPS drops below your refresh rate. There are a couple rare exceptions that v-sync in any form, does not work.

What game are you having difficulties with?
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March 16, 2013 5:03:45 PM

@Matto: Yea, i checked it out, its 59Hz. Not sure about the cable, but i never got this problem on my old pc using the same cable. And ofc i tried every single driver aswell, even the beta ones, still got the problem.

@Bystander: Nop, i tried even the normal vsync, i tried every single combination, it doesnt fix it. The only thing that can do it its the adaptive half refresh rate, as i said, but capping my fps to 30, which is kind of bad. The game is The witcher 2.
March 16, 2013 5:06:39 PM

fla34 said:
@Matto: Yea, i checked it out, its 59Hz. Not sure about the cable, but i never got this problem on my old pc using the same cable. And ofc i tried every single driver aswell, even the bet ones, still got the problem.

@Bystander: Nop, i tried even the normal vsync, i tried every single combination, it doesnt fix it. The only thing that can do it its the adaptive half refresh rate, as i said, but capping my fps to 30, which is kind of bad.


I would advise going back and trying normal plane vanilla v-sync again. No adaptive version at all. It doesn't make any since that adaptive v-sync: half refresh rate would work, and normal v-sync would not. The only difference between the two is the FPS limiter part. I have a feeling that you failed to set it when you meant to.

And again, what game is this? You may have better results using in game options for v-sync.
March 16, 2013 5:10:37 PM

Thanks for your time.

I was pretty sure i did things right, but just in case i tried again, nothing changed.

Adaptive vsync half refresh works, normal one doesnt.

I also tried the ingame option for vsync, doesnt work.

Game is the wicther 2 by the way.
March 16, 2013 5:13:14 PM

This leads me to believe there is some defective hardware. Perhaps you can video the problem. V-sync works on 680's, and should work on a 660ti as well. I've played the Witcher 2 without such an issue. It is possible this is not even a tearing issue, but something else entirely.
March 16, 2013 5:18:20 PM

But it works with no problems at all when i play Tomb raider or Rage, which are the games im playing at the moment. i don't think its an hw issue, what would u suggest then? :( 
March 16, 2013 5:21:39 PM

fla34 said:
But it works with no problems at all when i play Tomb raider or Rage, which are the games im playing at the moment. i don't think its an hw issue, what would u suggest then? :( 


Ah, so it does work in other games, just not "The Witcher 2". Do you have a custom profile in the 3D settings of Nvidia's Control Panel or maybe a setting in the default 3D Settings that is overwriting them? If not, the other possibility is a patch in the Witcher 2 has broken that feature.
March 16, 2013 5:24:57 PM

Doing search, it seems someone else had your issue, and it was a default setting in the Nvidia control panel was forcing v-sync off. It worth looking at the custom profile for the Witcher 2 and in the default area. One may have it forced off.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/975399-/59151948
March 16, 2013 5:26:53 PM

I made sure the custom profile doesnt overwrite the global settings, and it doesnt. Everything set on "Use global settings". Might be the aptches then, will try to uninstall it and trying to run it again without installing the patches. I will update you when im done. thanks for ur time, really appreciated it.
March 16, 2013 5:30:58 PM

You might try a new set of drivers, or even an older set. It is possible the problem is with your drivers.
March 16, 2013 5:34:17 PM

Already tried that. I tried every beta drivers, not the older ones tho. Might give it a shot aswell.
March 16, 2013 5:45:31 PM

Download Nvidia Inspector, find the profile for the game you are using, play with FPS cap until its reduced (Vsync off). It won't get rid of tearing but will massively reduce it if your max FPS is a little lower than the refresh of your monitor.

Tearing is just a part of gaming, only way around it is to use Vsync, which is crappy because it induces lag. Alot of games stop you from forcing things, so don't be too worried that you cant enable Vsync. If you look through Nvidia Inspector you'll notice half the games in the driver don't accept AA forcing.
March 16, 2013 5:50:00 PM

I will try the inspector aswell, thanks for the advice. I will update you guys as soon as i tried it.
March 16, 2013 6:12:43 PM

It wasn't the patch, same problem even with the base game. Also tried the inspector, i noticed that the fps limiter option helped to fix the problem the more i limited the fps. In other words, the more close to 30 fps i set, the more tears were unnoticeable.
Whatever, im tired of this game, if i cant play, so be it. Thanks guys for ur time!
March 16, 2013 6:16:46 PM

Probably not the fix you need, but your refresh rate should be 60, not 59.
March 16, 2013 6:22:59 PM

I tried to set it up to 60, as soon as i hit the accept button, close the window and i reopen it, it's back to 59.
March 16, 2013 7:18:48 PM

Just wanted to know another thing. Is changing the monitor a possible solution to this?
March 16, 2013 7:20:58 PM

If you go to a 120Hz display you get considerably less tearing. It really annoys you that much?
March 16, 2013 7:22:45 PM

It does indeed. Problem is i never got a single tear with my old gtx 460 and the same monitor. Screw those tearz.
March 16, 2013 7:42:33 PM

Hmm, ive watched some of the youtube videos about tearing problems. Thats not the problem i have it seems. So how can i explain it : /

I'll try. It's not like the part of the screen thats actually tearing completely changes color. Its more like some kind of lines that keeps moving 100% of the time up and down, almost like some kind of bug in the colors. Sometimes i dont even notice them, sometimes i do (i think it depends on the color of the backround).

But the problem persists the whole time. Most of the videos ive seen on utube about tearing problems, they are like intermittent and look different.
March 16, 2013 7:47:34 PM

Tearing does not cause color changes. Tearing is the result of two frames being rendered on the screen at the same time due to a 2nd frame or more, overwriting the display buffer at the same time the monitor is updating it's image. The result is two partial frames slightly offset. If you saw a video showing you different colors, it is likely special software to make it more obvious where the breaks occur.
March 16, 2013 7:52:24 PM

Missunderstanding there. Just wanted to say that on the videos ive seen on youtube the problem doesnt look like mine at all.
March 16, 2013 8:04:42 PM

My problem looks more like blurry lines going up and down on the screen..

Edit: I even tried to fraps it, but when i watched the video, i didn't see any problems. It was just ingame.. dunno what to think anymore lol
March 16, 2013 8:12:22 PM

Sounds like maybe an issue with the GPU itself. Not sure if its something that would show up on a video, but try record one with FRAPS or a similar program and post it.
March 16, 2013 8:17:15 PM

The problem doesnt show up on the video (video itself looks perfectly fine), its just while playing, i already tried it. But it only happens with few games, like i said tomb raider, diablo 3 and rage work just fine.
March 16, 2013 8:33:10 PM

I found the right word for my problem finally! (sorry for my english, its miles away from being perfect xD).
I'm getting a constant flickering on my monitor while i play. Thats cant be screen tearing right?
March 16, 2013 8:49:11 PM

Yah, that is hardware. Either the monitor, cable or video card voltage issue. Do you have an OC?
March 16, 2013 8:52:08 PM

Sorry but, what's an OC?

Also how can be the hardware if the problem only occurs with few games (and not even the most resources demanding ones)?
March 16, 2013 9:03:13 PM

This sounds like the issue I was having. Are there vertical lines that look like they're scrolling up and down on your screen? I got rid of the problem by RMAing my card. Turned out I also had a faulty PSU as well. Either way it definitely sounds like a voltage problem.
March 16, 2013 9:06:33 PM

Lines are horizontal actually, but yeah they're scrolling up and down on my screen.

Sorry for my ignorance but, what does RMAing card mean?
March 16, 2013 9:13:58 PM

Oh I'm sorry, I did mean horizontal. Return Merchandise Authorization, or getting it replaced. And OC is Overclocking by the way.
March 16, 2013 9:16:15 PM

So, do you definetely think it's the video card? Even if the problem occurs just with few games?
And no, i didn't overclock it.
March 16, 2013 9:22:12 PM

I assume you're not overclocking. What's your PSU?
March 16, 2013 9:24:50 PM

It could be an issue that only occurs when stressed. The Witcher 2 is known to stress your system. That might mean the PSU is not holding up as pointed out above.

This also lines up with the adaptive vsync: half refresh rate working, as that would take a lot of stress off the GPU.
March 16, 2013 9:25:31 PM

LC POWER GREEN POWER LC6650GP3 V2.3

Hope thats what you asked xD
March 16, 2013 9:27:22 PM

bystander said:
It could be an issue that only occurs when stressed. The Witcher 2 is known to stress your system. That might mean the PSU is not holding up as pointed out above.

This also lines up with the adaptive vsync: half refresh rate working, as that would take a lot of stress off the GPU.


Thats true, but problem persists even if i set everything on super low settings, also i dont get those problems on mor stressfull games, like tomb raider for example.

March 16, 2013 9:42:08 PM

Nvm, it happens everywhere, but in some games is much less accentuated, like i really have to focus to see it. Also tried to force the GPu fan to 100%, but absolutely nothing changed.
March 16, 2013 9:45:19 PM

fla34 said:
bystander said:
It could be an issue that only occurs when stressed. The Witcher 2 is known to stress your system. That might mean the PSU is not holding up as pointed out above.

This also lines up with the adaptive vsync: half refresh rate working, as that would take a lot of stress off the GPU.


Thats true, but problem persists even if i set everything on super low settings, also i dont get those problems on mor stressfull games, like tomb raider for example.


Lower settings often do not lower the stress on the GPU's. In many cases it increases the stress. I also happen to know that when Tomb Raider drops to low FPS, it is due to a CPU bottleneck, and the GPU usage drops. I'm not quite sure what all is happening, and why it affects Nvidia more so than AMD, but I assume it is related to the game engine and its DirectCompute usage, which can work on the GPU or CPU.

March 16, 2013 10:01:25 PM

Looking at your PSU it's likely it could be under performing. From what I saw it didn't receive many good reviews. You should look into getting something more reliable, like Corsair. This is the same problem I ran into when buying my rig. Did you build or buy?
March 16, 2013 10:09:22 PM

I bought an already built new pc.
March 16, 2013 10:24:29 PM

Since you're on warranty, I would get the PSU swapped while you can and see if it helps get rid of the problem. I'm almost certain that's the issue here. And can you post the page where you bought your rig, please.
March 16, 2013 10:28:19 PM

I didn't buy it on the internet, i went to the store myself.

Also, isn't out there some kind of programs that stress the GPU, just to see if that's the problem?

Edit: tried out with "Video Card Stability Test", and i didn't notice any problem along with it, but i don't know if that was a proper test to try for my problem.
March 16, 2013 10:52:13 PM

I believe FurMark is a good one to use. Someone may have another suggestion though.
March 16, 2013 11:05:22 PM

Thats excatly the one i used, i did the 15min burn-in benchmark test. The problem i had on games didn't show up on the program testing model, everything ran just fine (max temp 68°C), got 2900 points out of that test.

That means my hardware is ok? Or doesn't mean anything at all?
March 17, 2013 12:12:48 AM

Did a few search, can it be related to the monitor? Because i'm using a VGA one atm (with the VGA/DVI adaptor).
March 17, 2013 8:38:32 AM

fla34 said:
Did a few search, can it be related to the monitor? Because i'm using a VGA one atm (with the VGA/DVI adaptor).

That was my first question. If you are on a 1080 monitor you need a straight DVI, rather than an adapter. That might not be what's causing your problem.
March 17, 2013 9:45:33 AM

Actually my monitor is very old. It only has a VGA. I was reading about lots of ppl having my same problem, and they fixed by buying a DVI monitor, or a dvi dvi cable. Dunno if it's my case but, there's a chance at least.
Heard about those ppl who had a VGA and the signal was fluxuating the refresh rate. Dunno but, as they described it, it excatly seems my problem (horixontal lines, like if it was an interference with a tv signal, intermitent, and if they tried to fraps it, video was perfect, problem didn't show up on the recording), like me.
March 17, 2013 7:48:55 PM

doesnt the fact that im getting the issue on my monitor while playing but not on the recording mean its something about the cable or the monitor and not the video card?
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