Gtx 660Ti Screen Tearing
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fla34
March 16, 2013 4:49:17 PM
So, i gave up. It's been like 10 hours straight so far im trying to google out for a solution with no luck unfortunately.
Must ask to you guys, because i really don't know what to do anymore.
I recently bought a new computer, with a GTX 660ti video card. On some of the games i'm tring to play, i experience this annoying screen tearing problem. I'm not even sure if it's a real screen tear problem, dunno how to explain, sometimes while playing i see these kind of lines flashing over the screen (barely noticeable, but still annoying in my eyes).
I tried everythin, vsync, triple buffering, different kind of setting combinations between vsync, triple buffering, forcing it on my control panel, trying the adaptive vsync aswell, changing resolutions ecc, still having the same problem.
Only "Solution" i actually found was to set vsync on my nvidia control panel to "adaptive: half refresh rate". This way tears completely go away, but this way i got my ingame FPS capped to 30, which is kind of bad since i bought a new computer to run games smoothly.
I hope someone of you can help me out, because its been all day im trying to solve this problem, im exhausted. Thanks.
Must ask to you guys, because i really don't know what to do anymore.
I recently bought a new computer, with a GTX 660ti video card. On some of the games i'm tring to play, i experience this annoying screen tearing problem. I'm not even sure if it's a real screen tear problem, dunno how to explain, sometimes while playing i see these kind of lines flashing over the screen (barely noticeable, but still annoying in my eyes).
I tried everythin, vsync, triple buffering, different kind of setting combinations between vsync, triple buffering, forcing it on my control panel, trying the adaptive vsync aswell, changing resolutions ecc, still having the same problem.
Only "Solution" i actually found was to set vsync on my nvidia control panel to "adaptive: half refresh rate". This way tears completely go away, but this way i got my ingame FPS capped to 30, which is kind of bad since i bought a new computer to run games smoothly.
I hope someone of you can help me out, because its been all day im trying to solve this problem, im exhausted. Thanks.
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bystander
March 16, 2013 4:57:34 PM
It sounds like you are not getting 60+ FPS, which is why normal adaptive vsync does not help you. If adaptive vsync: half refresh rate fixes the tearing, the normal v-sync will also, just do not use adaptive v-sync. The difference between the two is that adaptive v-sync turns off when your FPS drops below your refresh rate. There are a couple rare exceptions that v-sync in any form, does not work.
What game are you having difficulties with?
What game are you having difficulties with?
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fla34
March 16, 2013 5:03:45 PM
@Matto: Yea, i checked it out, its 59Hz. Not sure about the cable, but i never got this problem on my old pc using the same cable. And ofc i tried every single driver aswell, even the beta ones, still got the problem.
@Bystander: Nop, i tried even the normal vsync, i tried every single combination, it doesnt fix it. The only thing that can do it its the adaptive half refresh rate, as i said, but capping my fps to 30, which is kind of bad. The game is The witcher 2.
@Bystander: Nop, i tried even the normal vsync, i tried every single combination, it doesnt fix it. The only thing that can do it its the adaptive half refresh rate, as i said, but capping my fps to 30, which is kind of bad. The game is The witcher 2.
bystander
March 16, 2013 5:06:39 PM
fla34 said:
@Matto: Yea, i checked it out, its 59Hz. Not sure about the cable, but i never got this problem on my old pc using the same cable. And ofc i tried every single driver aswell, even the bet ones, still got the problem.@Bystander: Nop, i tried even the normal vsync, i tried every single combination, it doesnt fix it. The only thing that can do it its the adaptive half refresh rate, as i said, but capping my fps to 30, which is kind of bad.
I would advise going back and trying normal plane vanilla v-sync again. No adaptive version at all. It doesn't make any since that adaptive v-sync: half refresh rate would work, and normal v-sync would not. The only difference between the two is the FPS limiter part. I have a feeling that you failed to set it when you meant to.
And again, what game is this? You may have better results using in game options for v-sync.
fla34
March 16, 2013 5:10:37 PM
bystander
March 16, 2013 5:13:14 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 5:18:20 PM
bystander
March 16, 2013 5:21:39 PM
fla34 said:
But it works with no problems at all when i play Tomb raider or Rage, which are the games im playing at the moment. i don't think its an hw issue, what would u suggest then?
Ah, so it does work in other games, just not "The Witcher 2". Do you have a custom profile in the 3D settings of Nvidia's Control Panel or maybe a setting in the default 3D Settings that is overwriting them? If not, the other possibility is a patch in the Witcher 2 has broken that feature.
bystander
March 16, 2013 5:24:57 PM
Doing search, it seems someone else had your issue, and it was a default setting in the Nvidia control panel was forcing v-sync off. It worth looking at the custom profile for the Witcher 2 and in the default area. One may have it forced off.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/975399-/59151948
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/975399-/59151948
fla34
March 16, 2013 5:26:53 PM
I made sure the custom profile doesnt overwrite the global settings, and it doesnt. Everything set on "Use global settings". Might be the aptches then, will try to uninstall it and trying to run it again without installing the patches. I will update you when im done. thanks for ur time, really appreciated it.
bystander
March 16, 2013 5:30:58 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 5:34:17 PM
cookybiscuit
March 16, 2013 5:45:31 PM
Download Nvidia Inspector, find the profile for the game you are using, play with FPS cap until its reduced (Vsync off). It won't get rid of tearing but will massively reduce it if your max FPS is a little lower than the refresh of your monitor.
Tearing is just a part of gaming, only way around it is to use Vsync, which is crappy because it induces lag. Alot of games stop you from forcing things, so don't be too worried that you cant enable Vsync. If you look through Nvidia Inspector you'll notice half the games in the driver don't accept AA forcing.
Tearing is just a part of gaming, only way around it is to use Vsync, which is crappy because it induces lag. Alot of games stop you from forcing things, so don't be too worried that you cant enable Vsync. If you look through Nvidia Inspector you'll notice half the games in the driver don't accept AA forcing.
fla34
March 16, 2013 5:50:00 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 6:12:43 PM
It wasn't the patch, same problem even with the base game. Also tried the inspector, i noticed that the fps limiter option helped to fix the problem the more i limited the fps. In other words, the more close to 30 fps i set, the more tears were unnoticeable.
Whatever, im tired of this game, if i cant play, so be it. Thanks guys for ur time!
Whatever, im tired of this game, if i cant play, so be it. Thanks guys for ur time!
fla34
March 16, 2013 6:22:59 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 7:18:48 PM
cookybiscuit
March 16, 2013 7:20:58 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 7:22:45 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 7:42:33 PM
Hmm, ive watched some of the youtube videos about tearing problems. Thats not the problem i have it seems. So how can i explain it : /
I'll try. It's not like the part of the screen thats actually tearing completely changes color. Its more like some kind of lines that keeps moving 100% of the time up and down, almost like some kind of bug in the colors. Sometimes i dont even notice them, sometimes i do (i think it depends on the color of the backround).
But the problem persists the whole time. Most of the videos ive seen on utube about tearing problems, they are like intermittent and look different.
I'll try. It's not like the part of the screen thats actually tearing completely changes color. Its more like some kind of lines that keeps moving 100% of the time up and down, almost like some kind of bug in the colors. Sometimes i dont even notice them, sometimes i do (i think it depends on the color of the backround).
But the problem persists the whole time. Most of the videos ive seen on utube about tearing problems, they are like intermittent and look different.
bystander
March 16, 2013 7:47:34 PM
Tearing does not cause color changes. Tearing is the result of two frames being rendered on the screen at the same time due to a 2nd frame or more, overwriting the display buffer at the same time the monitor is updating it's image. The result is two partial frames slightly offset. If you saw a video showing you different colors, it is likely special software to make it more obvious where the breaks occur.
fla34
March 16, 2013 7:52:24 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 8:04:42 PM
cookybiscuit
March 16, 2013 8:12:22 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 8:17:15 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 8:33:10 PM
bystander
March 16, 2013 8:49:11 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 8:52:08 PM
JSquared
March 16, 2013 9:03:13 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 9:06:33 PM
JSquared
March 16, 2013 9:13:58 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 9:16:15 PM
JSquared
March 16, 2013 9:22:12 PM
bystander
March 16, 2013 9:24:50 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 9:25:31 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 9:27:22 PM
bystander said:
It could be an issue that only occurs when stressed. The Witcher 2 is known to stress your system. That might mean the PSU is not holding up as pointed out above.This also lines up with the adaptive vsync: half refresh rate working, as that would take a lot of stress off the GPU.
Thats true, but problem persists even if i set everything on super low settings, also i dont get those problems on mor stressfull games, like tomb raider for example.
fla34
March 16, 2013 9:42:08 PM
bystander
March 16, 2013 9:45:19 PM
fla34 said:
bystander said:
It could be an issue that only occurs when stressed. The Witcher 2 is known to stress your system. That might mean the PSU is not holding up as pointed out above.This also lines up with the adaptive vsync: half refresh rate working, as that would take a lot of stress off the GPU.
Thats true, but problem persists even if i set everything on super low settings, also i dont get those problems on mor stressfull games, like tomb raider for example.
Lower settings often do not lower the stress on the GPU's. In many cases it increases the stress. I also happen to know that when Tomb Raider drops to low FPS, it is due to a CPU bottleneck, and the GPU usage drops. I'm not quite sure what all is happening, and why it affects Nvidia more so than AMD, but I assume it is related to the game engine and its DirectCompute usage, which can work on the GPU or CPU.
JSquared
March 16, 2013 10:01:25 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 10:09:22 PM
JSquared
March 16, 2013 10:24:29 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 10:28:19 PM
I didn't buy it on the internet, i went to the store myself.
Also, isn't out there some kind of programs that stress the GPU, just to see if that's the problem?
Edit: tried out with "Video Card Stability Test", and i didn't notice any problem along with it, but i don't know if that was a proper test to try for my problem.
Also, isn't out there some kind of programs that stress the GPU, just to see if that's the problem?
Edit: tried out with "Video Card Stability Test", and i didn't notice any problem along with it, but i don't know if that was a proper test to try for my problem.
JSquared
March 16, 2013 10:52:13 PM
fla34
March 16, 2013 11:05:22 PM
fla34
March 17, 2013 12:12:48 AM
fla34
March 17, 2013 9:45:33 AM
Actually my monitor is very old. It only has a VGA. I was reading about lots of ppl having my same problem, and they fixed by buying a DVI monitor, or a dvi dvi cable. Dunno if it's my case but, there's a chance at least.
Heard about those ppl who had a VGA and the signal was fluxuating the refresh rate. Dunno but, as they described it, it excatly seems my problem (horixontal lines, like if it was an interference with a tv signal, intermitent, and if they tried to fraps it, video was perfect, problem didn't show up on the recording), like me.
Heard about those ppl who had a VGA and the signal was fluxuating the refresh rate. Dunno but, as they described it, it excatly seems my problem (horixontal lines, like if it was an interference with a tv signal, intermitent, and if they tried to fraps it, video was perfect, problem didn't show up on the recording), like me.
fla34
March 17, 2013 7:48:55 PM
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