Upgrade to i7 4770k ?
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just go with a 3570k, it has more then horsepower than you're honestly going to need. Save your money and just buy: a better graphics card, or a solid state drive or more RAM. That will compensate for any performance differences between a Haswell or that Sandy Bridge.
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in real it may sound odd but i would go for the 3570k!no one can be so sure about their price!they need a new motherboard and their performance would be slightly better so their power consumption!
however the hasswell in the start its going to be will the first prices and they may be a little high!
to conlude nobody needs something more than one 3570k in gaming and not only for recent games!
go for the 3570k and just make upgrades afterwards!
however the hasswell in the start its going to be will the first prices and they may be a little high!
to conlude nobody needs something more than one 3570k in gaming and not only for recent games!
go for the 3570k and just make upgrades afterwards!
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i am not so sure about it the 4770k is like 3770k 4 cores 8 threads 3.5ghz up to 3.9ghz 8mb catche so its pretty the same!but i am used to know that every new intel series coming out what ever the performance is tends to be expensive!if 4770k is cheaper than of course better!
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sam1911 :
currently using Gtx 650 ti but I want a processor for heavy multitasking ,gaming , rendering 3D & video editing at the same time
do you think that i5 will manage but i have waited so long for haswell By all means please do buy the Haswell, and the I7-4770K to boot! All this rendering 3D and video editing, the Haswell will kill those apps. I am assuming you saw this review:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4770k-haswell-performance,3461.html
The enhancements of the Haswell will only really be seen as programmers up their programs to take advantage of what it has to offer. Look for games to start using hyperthreads. Go for it!
sam1911 :
currently using Gtx 650 ti but I want a processor for heavy multitasking ,gaming , rendering 3D & video editing at the same time
do you think that i5 will manage but i have waited so long for haswell The I5 not being able to handle the multitasking and gaming? Please, that chip gives my 8350 a run for it's money and I have a whopping 8 cores. The processors at the price ranges you're talking about, $200-250
has more then enough for what you want, I'd save the money you have by not buying Haswell, and instead get yourself a better graphics card like a Radeon 7870, because THAT is what you need more than a Haswell. The 650Ti you're using is too slow and will be the processors bottleneck both with the 3570k and the 4770k making it pointless to get a processor that essentially has to wait for the graphics card to process the instructions sent to it because it's slower than what is being fed to it. Plus, the performance of your Haswell chip, all other factors held equal, is incremental over the 3570k, the amount you save from not buying a Haswell can help you save enough money to buy more RAM for example or a Solid State Drive in addition to your graphics card. IF you combine all three upgrades (graphics card, SSD, and/or RAM), all other things being held constant, the 3570k will outperform the 4770k using your legacy parts.
But, the caveat here is budget, if in the end you have a tight budget constraint and want to maximize performance over the life of the computer, get yourself the 3570K and you'll be thrilled.
Now, if let's say that your budget is huge, allowing the 4770k, with more RAM, an SSD, and a new graphics card upgrade, then by all means, if performance you seek, it will be better going with the Haswell.
But other than that, I can't see it being a practical choice over all.
Oh, and one last thing to consider, if were going by generation of the same classification of chips: such that,
I7-3770k and its successor being the 4770k, then if we consider prices ranges....
the 3770k being: $330
then we can logically assume that, the 4770k will be at the very least $50 to a $100 more.
compared to a 3570k which is $220.
So we can assume that the 4770k will be around $160 to $200 more.
Both these processors are equally over kill for any daily driver.
I7-3770k and its successor being the 4770k, then if we consider prices ranges....
the 3770k being: $330
then we can logically assume that, the 4770k will be at the very least $50 to a $100 more.
compared to a 3570k which is $220.
So we can assume that the 4770k will be around $160 to $200 more.
Both these processors are equally over kill for any daily driver.
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sam1911 :
currently using Gtx 650 ti but I want a processor for heavy multitasking ,gaming , rendering 3D & video editing at the same time
do you think that i5 will manage but i have waited so long for haswell The I5 not being able to handle the multitasking and gaming? Please, that chip gives my 8350 a run for it's money and I have a whopping 8 cores. The processors at the price ranges you're talking about, $200-250
has more then enough for what you want, I'd save the money you have by not buying Haswell, and instead get yourself a better graphics card like a Radeon 7870, because THAT is what you need more than a Haswell. The 650Ti you're using is too slow and will be the processors bottleneck both with the 3570k and the 4770k making it pointless to get a processor that essentially has to wait for the graphics card to process the instructions sent to it because it's slower than what is being fed to it. Plus, the performance of your Haswell chip, all other factors held equal, is incremental over the 3570k, the amount you save from not buying a Haswell can help you save enough money to buy more RAM for example or a Solid State Drive in addition to your graphics card. IF you combine all three upgrades (graphics card, SSD, and/or RAM), all other things being held constant, the 3570k will outperform the 4770k using your legacy parts.
But, the caveat here is budget, if in the end you have a tight budget constraint and want to maximize performance over the life of the computer, get yourself the 3570K and you'll be thrilled.
Now, if let's say that your budget is huge, allowing the 4770k, with more RAM, an SSD, and a new graphics card upgrade, then by all means, if performance you seek, it will be better going with the Haswell.
But other than that, I can't see it being a practical choice over all.
If GTX 650 TI is too slow then what do you think of HD 5450 ? btw the 7870 is not that much powerful than the GTX 650ti , still do you think I need a GPU upgrade for playing at 720p ?. My budget isnt that huge its like say 400$ for a CPU ? . Can I get any i7
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skurtov :
sam1911 :
currently using Gtx 650 ti but I want a processor for heavy multitasking ,gaming , rendering 3D & video editing at the same time
do you think that i5 will manage but i have waited so long for haswell The I5 not being able to handle the multitasking and gaming? Please, that chip gives my 8350 a run for it's money and I have a whopping 8 cores. The processors at the price ranges you're talking about, $200-250
has more then enough for what you want, I'd save the money you have by not buying Haswell, and instead get yourself a better graphics card like a Radeon 7870, because THAT is what you need more than a Haswell. The 650Ti you're using is too slow and will be the processors bottleneck both with the 3570k and the 4770k making it pointless to get a processor that essentially has to wait for the graphics card to process the instructions sent to it because it's slower than what is being fed to it. Plus, the performance of your Haswell chip, all other factors held equal, is incremental over the 3570k, the amount you save from not buying a Haswell can help you save enough money to buy more RAM for example or a Solid State Drive in addition to your graphics card. IF you combine all three upgrades (graphics card, SSD, and/or RAM), all other things being held constant, the 3570k will outperform the 4770k using your legacy parts.
But, the caveat here is budget, if in the end you have a tight budget constraint and want to maximize performance over the life of the computer, get yourself the 3570K and you'll be thrilled.
Now, if let's say that your budget is huge, allowing the 4770k, with more RAM, an SSD, and a new graphics card upgrade, then by all means, if performance you seek, it will be better going with the Haswell.
But other than that, I can't see it being a practical choice over all.
If GTX 650 TI is too slow then what do you think of HD 5450 ? btw the 7870 is not that much powerful than the GTX 650ti , still do you think I need a GPU upgrade for playing at 720p ?. My budget isnt that huge its like say 400$ for a CPU ? . Can I get any i7
? Uh actually, for starters the 7870 is a significantly better performer than the 650TI,
http://www.hwcompare.com/13796/geforce-gtx-650-ti-2gb-vs-radeon-hd-7870/
These theoretical values are indicitive enough.
And HD 5450, that's integrated graphics, good luck. If you remotely serious about gaming you have to get yourself a graphics card, period.
I'd also like to point out that having a I7 doesn't mean better performance. The Sandy Bridge I5 has been toms hardware most suggested gaming CPU for months now. It's the best you can get for your money without going overboard and getting only small performance increases. We're talking maybe shaving a few seconds off video encoding/decoding times, and gaining maybe a handful or less fps extra between the 3770k and the 3570k. If fps and better encoding time is what you want, a better graphics card with hardware acceleration is going to make the biggest impact.
That being said, if your budget alone ix $400 for a CPU, then what you can do is, buy a 3570K, the save the extra cash, and get a 7950 or a 670 for truly fantastic performance. Which will bring you up to a minimum of $530 for a processor graphics upgrade.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-Haswell-Flagship-TakeItNow-MaxICT,21594.html
Per the Dutch, the I7 - 4770K will be about 5 to 10% more than the I7 - 3770K. That's about $15 to $30 more.
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skurtov :
sam1911 :
skurtov :
sam1911 :
currently using Gtx 650 ti but I want a processor for heavy multitasking ,gaming , rendering 3D & video editing at the same time
do you think that i5 will manage but i have waited so long for haswell The I5 not being able to handle the multitasking and gaming? Please, that chip gives my 8350 a run for it's money and I have a whopping 8 cores. The processors at the price ranges you're talking about, $200-250
has more then enough for what you want, I'd save the money you have by not buying Haswell, and instead get yourself a better graphics card like a Radeon 7870, because THAT is what you need more than a Haswell. The 650Ti you're using is too slow and will be the processors bottleneck both with the 3570k and the 4770k making it pointless to get a processor that essentially has to wait for the graphics card to process the instructions sent to it because it's slower than what is being fed to it. Plus, the performance of your Haswell chip, all other factors held equal, is incremental over the 3570k, the amount you save from not buying a Haswell can help you save enough money to buy more RAM for example or a Solid State Drive in addition to your graphics card. IF you combine all three upgrades (graphics card, SSD, and/or RAM), all other things being held constant, the 3570k will outperform the 4770k using your legacy parts.
But, the caveat here is budget, if in the end you have a tight budget constraint and want to maximize performance over the life of the computer, get yourself the 3570K and you'll be thrilled.
Now, if let's say that your budget is huge, allowing the 4770k, with more RAM, an SSD, and a new graphics card upgrade, then by all means, if performance you seek, it will be better going with the Haswell.
But other than that, I can't see it being a practical choice over all.
If GTX 650 TI is too slow then what do you think of HD 5450 ? btw the 7870 is not that much powerful than the GTX 650ti , still do you think I need a GPU upgrade for playing at 720p ?. My budget isnt that huge its like say 400$ for a CPU ? . Can I get any i7
? Uh actually, for starters the 7870 is a significantly better performer than the 650TI,
http://www.hwcompare.com/13796/geforce-gtx-650-ti-2gb-vs-radeon-hd-7870/
These theoretical values are indicitive enough.
And HD 5450, that's integrated graphics, good luck. If you remotely serious about gaming you have to get yourself a graphics card, period.
I'd also like to point out that having a I7 doesn't mean better performance. The Sandy Bridge I5 has been toms hardware most suggested gaming CPU for months now. It's the best you can get for your money without going overboard and getting only small performance increases. We're talking maybe shaving a few seconds off video encoding/decoding times, and gaining maybe a handful or less fps extra between the 3770k and the 3570k. If fps and better encoding time is what you want, a better graphics card with hardware acceleration is going to make the biggest impact.
That being said, if your budget alone ix $400 for a CPU, then what you can do is, buy a 3570K, the save the extra cash, and get a 7950 or a 670 for truly fantastic performance. Which will bring you up to a minimum of $530 for a processor graphics upgrade.
I was thinking of i5 3570k but that processor is going to die ? I mean the haswell is 4 gen and i5 4670K & i7 4770s going to be faster ?& if I upgrade my GPU now it will be a waste of $'s , maybe later with Hd 9870 or gtx 870
sam1911 :
skurtov :
sam1911 :
skurtov :
sam1911 :
currently using Gtx 650 ti but I want a processor for heavy multitasking ,gaming , rendering 3D & video editing at the same time
do you think that i5 will manage but i have waited so long for haswell The I5 not being able to handle the multitasking and gaming? Please, that chip gives my 8350 a run for it's money and I have a whopping 8 cores. The processors at the price ranges you're talking about, $200-250
has more then enough for what you want, I'd save the money you have by not buying Haswell, and instead get yourself a better graphics card like a Radeon 7870, because THAT is what you need more than a Haswell. The 650Ti you're using is too slow and will be the processors bottleneck both with the 3570k and the 4770k making it pointless to get a processor that essentially has to wait for the graphics card to process the instructions sent to it because it's slower than what is being fed to it. Plus, the performance of your Haswell chip, all other factors held equal, is incremental over the 3570k, the amount you save from not buying a Haswell can help you save enough money to buy more RAM for example or a Solid State Drive in addition to your graphics card. IF you combine all three upgrades (graphics card, SSD, and/or RAM), all other things being held constant, the 3570k will outperform the 4770k using your legacy parts.
But, the caveat here is budget, if in the end you have a tight budget constraint and want to maximize performance over the life of the computer, get yourself the 3570K and you'll be thrilled.
Now, if let's say that your budget is huge, allowing the 4770k, with more RAM, an SSD, and a new graphics card upgrade, then by all means, if performance you seek, it will be better going with the Haswell.
But other than that, I can't see it being a practical choice over all.
If GTX 650 TI is too slow then what do you think of HD 5450 ? btw the 7870 is not that much powerful than the GTX 650ti , still do you think I need a GPU upgrade for playing at 720p ?. My budget isnt that huge its like say 400$ for a CPU ? . Can I get any i7
? Uh actually, for starters the 7870 is a significantly better performer than the 650TI,
http://www.hwcompare.com/13796/geforce-gtx-650-ti-2gb-vs-radeon-hd-7870/
These theoretical values are indicitive enough.
And HD 5450, that's integrated graphics, good luck. If you remotely serious about gaming you have to get yourself a graphics card, period.
I'd also like to point out that having a I7 doesn't mean better performance. The Sandy Bridge I5 has been toms hardware most suggested gaming CPU for months now. It's the best you can get for your money without going overboard and getting only small performance increases. We're talking maybe shaving a few seconds off video encoding/decoding times, and gaining maybe a handful or less fps extra between the 3770k and the 3570k. If fps and better encoding time is what you want, a better graphics card with hardware acceleration is going to make the biggest impact.
That being said, if your budget alone ix $400 for a CPU, then what you can do is, buy a 3570K, the save the extra cash, and get a 7950 or a 670 for truly fantastic performance. Which will bring you up to a minimum of $530 for a processor graphics upgrade.
I was thinking of i5 3570k but that processor is going to die ? I mean the haswell is 4 gen and i5 4670K & i7 4770s going to be faster ?& if I upgrade my GPU now it will be a waste of $'s , maybe later with Hd 9870 or gtx 870
Well, the processor won't exactly die. It will be an extremely competitive processor for the next few years. The socket that it runs on, LGA 1155, is essentially dead. I just read that Haswell will run on a the LGA 1150. And I wouldn't say that a GPU upgrade is a waste of money, cause if you get 7870, and then SLI or Crossfire it, you're going to get more power than one 9870 (but this is just an extrapolation)
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A 4670K IMO will be the way2go. Unless you are nuts about Hyper-Threading the 4770K is a waste of money.
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skurtov :
sam1911 :
skurtov :
sam1911 :
currently using Gtx 650 ti but I want a processor for heavy multitasking ,gaming , rendering 3D & video editing at the same time
do you think that i5 will manage but i have waited so long for haswell The I5 not being able to handle the multitasking and gaming? Please, that chip gives my 8350 a run for it's money and I have a whopping 8 cores. The processors at the price ranges you're talking about, $200-250
has more then enough for what you want, I'd save the money you have by not buying Haswell, and instead get yourself a better graphics card like a Radeon 7870, because THAT is what you need more than a Haswell. The 650Ti you're using is too slow and will be the processors bottleneck both with the 3570k and the 4770k making it pointless to get a processor that essentially has to wait for the graphics card to process the instructions sent to it because it's slower than what is being fed to it. Plus, the performance of your Haswell chip, all other factors held equal, is incremental over the 3570k, the amount you save from not buying a Haswell can help you save enough money to buy more RAM for example or a Solid State Drive in addition to your graphics card. IF you combine all three upgrades (graphics card, SSD, and/or RAM), all other things being held constant, the 3570k will outperform the 4770k using your legacy parts.
But, the caveat here is budget, if in the end you have a tight budget constraint and want to maximize performance over the life of the computer, get yourself the 3570K and you'll be thrilled.
Now, if let's say that your budget is huge, allowing the 4770k, with more RAM, an SSD, and a new graphics card upgrade, then by all means, if performance you seek, it will be better going with the Haswell.
But other than that, I can't see it being a practical choice over all.
If GTX 650 TI is too slow then what do you think of HD 5450 ? btw the 7870 is not that much powerful than the GTX 650ti , still do you think I need a GPU upgrade for playing at 720p ?. My budget isnt that huge its like say 400$ for a CPU ? . Can I get any i7
? Uh actually, for starters the 7870 is a significantly better performer than the 650TI,
http://www.hwcompare.com/13796/geforce-gtx-650-ti-2gb-vs-radeon-hd-7870/
These theoretical values are indicitive enough.
And HD 5450, that's integrated graphics, good luck. If you remotely serious about gaming you have to get yourself a graphics card, period.
I'd also like to point out that having a I7 doesn't mean better performance. The Sandy Bridge I5 has been toms hardware most suggested gaming CPU for months now. It's the best you can get for your money without going overboard and getting only small performance increases. We're talking maybe shaving a few seconds off video encoding/decoding times, and gaining maybe a handful or less fps extra between the 3770k and the 3570k. If fps and better encoding time is what you want, a better graphics card with hardware acceleration is going to make the biggest impact.
That being said, if your budget alone ix $400 for a CPU, then what you can do is, buy a 3570K, the save the extra cash, and get a 7950 or a 670 for truly fantastic performance. Which will bring you up to a minimum of $530 for a processor graphics upgrade.
I was thinking of i5 3570k but that processor is going to die ? I mean the haswell is 4 gen and i5 4670K & i7 4770s going to be faster ?& if I upgrade my GPU now it will be a waste of $'s , maybe later with Hd 9870 or gtx 870
Well, the processor won't exactly die. It will be an extremely competitive processor for the next few years. The socket that it runs on, LGA 1155, is essentially dead. I just read that Haswell will run on a the LGA 1150. And I wouldn't say that a GPU upgrade is a waste of money, cause if you get 7870, and then SLI or Crossfire it, you're going to get more power than one 9870 (but this is just an extrapolation)
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