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MSI GTX 650 Ti Boost Spotted Before Release

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March 25, 2013 10:10:47 PM

I thought this card was supposed to launch today :/ 
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March 25, 2013 10:13:35 PM

I'm in the market for a graphics card at $150-$180. The 7850 looks like the best option, and the 7790/650 Ti+ do not seem like they come close in terms of performance/price ratio. Does anyone disagree? Is there something I'm missing?
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March 25, 2013 10:20:53 PM

I just want the Titan with 650Ti power consumption... :-(
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March 25, 2013 10:25:21 PM

Oh the joys of competition :) 

Now only if they would enable SLI...
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March 25, 2013 10:39:09 PM

amdfangirlI thought this card was supposed to launch today

I dont remember, but I think it was sceduled for the 26th, which is tommorrow(at least for PST). (or was it thursday, i cant even remember)
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March 25, 2013 11:01:26 PM

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The purpose of the new GTX 560 Ti Boost is to compete with AMD's 7790 that has just launched.


typo.
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March 25, 2013 11:07:23 PM

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I'm in the market for a graphics card at $150-$180. The 7850 looks like the best option, and the 7790/650 Ti+ do not seem like they come close in terms of performance/price ratio. Does anyone disagree? Is there something I'm missing?


I have read in one review or another that AMD has hinted that the 7850 1gb card won't be hanging around at it's current price forever. Now whether that means the price will go up or the card will be phased out I don't know. So if you want one I wouldn't wait to long or they may be hard to find at 185$.
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March 25, 2013 11:19:08 PM

amdfangirlI thought this card was supposed to launch today

Is that going to be your new card? :) 
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March 25, 2013 11:21:00 PM

I read that even with the added power on the 650 TI, That the price would not change. It was only to compete with AMD's 7790. I expected there would be a price increase, PC hardware manufacturers are not about to give up a chance to make more money if they can.
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March 25, 2013 11:46:02 PM

matt grafton said:
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I'm in the market for a graphics card at $150-$180. The 7850 looks like the best option, and the 7790/650 Ti+ do not seem like they come close in terms of performance/price ratio. Does anyone disagree? Is there something I'm missing?


I have read in one review or another that AMD has hinted that the 7850 1gb card won't be hanging around at it's current price forever. Now whether that means the price will go up or the card will be phased out I don't know. So if you want one I wouldn't wait to long or they may be hard to find at 185$.


the 7850 1gb is phasing out due to production for ddr5 vram for that model is ceasing.


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I read that even with the added power on the 650 TI, That the price would not change. It was only to compete with AMD's 7790. I expected there would be a price increase, PC hardware manufacturers are not about to give up a chance to make more money if they can.


the prices will shift a little. I believe in the UK,(read on OCN) that the 650ti and 660 are about to take a small price cut. the new 650ti will take the old 650ti's relative price spot and then some. If I had to make a early guess, the 192 bus thats going in this 650ti boost will give it an edge on where the 7790 slacks in heavy loaded games due to the 7790 only having a 6000 mhz memory speed on top of a 128 bus.
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March 25, 2013 11:55:35 PM

200$??? You can get 660 for that!
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March 25, 2013 11:55:42 PM

If this card is $170+ then it will fail hard. A HD7790 which is 12% faster than the 650ti is $150 while a HD7850OC is $180 and it will be considerably faster than a overclocked 650ti. Nvidia have been in the business of bad decisions, to throw on a few extra dollars for factory overclocks is just a scam.
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March 25, 2013 11:58:34 PM

I read something about that, but I didn't know it was a sure thing. Do any of you know when it will begin to be phased out, or have any idea as to whether there will be any price drops?

Also after the 7850 line drops is that going to be it for that price point? Will I be forced to buy either a 560 Ti, a 7790, or a GTX 660? It seems like that $180-$200 price point is going to be left wide open.

Sorry if any of this seems ignorant, I don't follow this stuff usually because I don't buy new cards very often.
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March 26, 2013 12:01:24 AM

StimpackI read something about that, but I didn't know it was a sure thing. Do any of you know when it will begin to be phased out, or have any idea as to whether there will be any price drops? Also after the 7850 line drops is that going to be it for that price point? Will I be forced to buy either a 560 Ti, a 7790, or a GTX 660? It seems like that $180-$200 price point is going to be left wide open.Sorry if any of this seems ignorant, I don't follow this stuff usually because I don't buy new cards very often.



iirc only the 1gb varient will phase out of production for the 7850. I think the 2gb will stay for awhile. the 7790 is more or less replacing what the 78501gb was holding(albeit slower), but averagely cheaper MSRP wise.
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March 26, 2013 12:23:50 AM

dudewitbowiirc only the 1gb varient will phase out of production for the 7850. I think the 2gb will stay for awhile. the 7790 is more or less replacing what the 78501gb was holding(albeit slower), but averagely cheaper MSRP wise.


If we could get confirmation on that, that would be great! I planned on grabbing the 2GB version anyway, with the next-gen consoles coming out next year.
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March 26, 2013 12:41:23 AM

192 bit memory. sounds like a gtx660 with a cut down gpu.
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March 26, 2013 3:13:17 AM

Stimpack said:
I read something about that, but I didn't know it was a sure thing. Do any of you know when it will begin to be phased out, or have any idea as to whether there will be any price drops?

Also after the 7850 line drops is that going to be it for that price point? Will I be forced to buy either a 560 Ti, a 7790, or a GTX 660? It seems like that $180-$200 price point is going to be left wide open.

Sorry if any of this seems ignorant, I don't follow this stuff usually because I don't buy new cards very often.


The HD7850 2GB card is selling at the $180 range, though Ive heard it will be cut down soon maybe some around $160 which for a card like that is a steal, right now the HD7850 is one of the biggest money spinners for AMD due to its nothing short of stellar performance.

This card at $160 is not worth it, factory overclocked 650ti

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March 26, 2013 4:40:51 AM

Why buy lower OCed card instead of higher slower card and oc it yourself? :D .
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March 26, 2013 7:06:32 AM

graphic cards have some of the coolest box covers

textbooks should do the same thing and maybe more people would wanna study
but probably not
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March 26, 2013 8:12:20 AM

sarinaideThe HD7850 2GB card is selling at the $180 range, though Ive heard it will be cut down soon maybe some around $160 which for a card like that is a steal, right now the HD7850 is one of the biggest money spinners for AMD due to its nothing short of stellar performance. This card at $160 is not worth it, factory overclocked 650ti


sarinaideIf this card is $170+ then it will fail hard. A HD7790 which is 12% faster than the 650ti is $150 while a HD7850OC is $180 and it will be considerably faster than a overclocked 650ti. Nvidia have been in the business of bad decisions, to throw on a few extra dollars for factory overclocks is just a scam.


StimpackI'm in the market for a graphics card at $150-$180. The 7850 looks like the best option, and the 7790/650 Ti+ do not seem like they come close in terms of performance/price ratio. Does anyone disagree? Is there something I'm missing?


The GTX 650 Ti Boost is not an overclocked 650 Ti. It is a GTX 660 with one SMX cut out. So, the GTX 650 Ti will perform comparatively to the Radeon 7850 (IE a little slower than the GTX 660). It's possible that some models will meet the GTX 660 with factory overclocks.

The Radeon 7790 will be reduced to sitting between the Radeon 7850/GTX 650 Ti Boost tier and the GTX 650 Ti (non-boost), so it may get a price reduction along with a price reduction on the Radeon 7850 2GB.
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March 26, 2013 8:36:38 AM

tadej petric200$??? You can get 660 for that!


I don't often see a GTX 660 quite that cheap.
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March 26, 2013 9:16:34 AM

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sarinaideThe HD7850 2GB card is selling at the $180 range, though Ive heard it will be cut down soon maybe some around $160 which for a card like that is a steal, right now the HD7850 is one of the biggest money spinners for AMD due to its nothing short of stellar performance. This card at $160 is not worth it, factory overclocked 650ti


sarinaideIf this card is $170+ then it will fail hard. A HD7790 which is 12% faster than the 650ti is $150 while a HD7850OC is $180 and it will be considerably faster than a overclocked 650ti. Nvidia have been in the business of bad decisions, to throw on a few extra dollars for factory overclocks is just a scam.


StimpackI'm in the market for a graphics card at $150-$180. The 7850 looks like the best option, and the 7790/650 Ti+ do not seem like they come close in terms of performance/price ratio. Does anyone disagree? Is there something I'm missing?


The GTX 650 Ti Boost is not an overclocked 650 Ti. It is a GTX 660 with one SMX cut out. So, the GTX 650 Ti will perform comparatively to the Radeon 7850 (IE a little slower than the GTX 660). It's possible that some models will meet the GTX 660 with factory overclocks.

The Radeon 7790 will be reduced to sitting between the Radeon 7850/GTX 650 Ti Boost tier and the GTX 650 Ti (non-boost), so it may get a price reduction along with a price reduction on the Radeon 7850 2GB.


yeah I saw that, to say not impressed is an understatement. Nvidia are a farcry from the Nvidia of old, basically they are now a kind of desperate reactive company, first the Titan which is likely going to be slower than Nvidia's and AMD's next champion parts and cost double consuming a hullavalot of power in the process. Then this 650ti boost rebranded 660 and far from impressive.

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March 26, 2013 9:31:08 AM

Titan isn't likely to be slower than AMD's and Nvidia's next top-end single GPU consumer parts IMO and it doesn't consume that much power anyway. Furthermore, the GTX 650 Ti Boost is like the GTX 560 all over again, so I have to at least partially disagree with your opinion of them.
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March 26, 2013 4:43:20 PM

sarinaideIf this card is $170+ then it will fail hard. A HD7790 which is 12% faster than the 650ti is $150 while a HD7850OC is $180 and it will be considerably faster than a overclocked 650ti. Nvidia have been in the business of bad decisions, to throw on a few extra dollars for factory overclocks is just a scam.

Don't forget the 192 bit bus and 24 rops. That should help performance.
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March 27, 2013 3:03:43 PM

blazorthon said:
tadej petric200$??? You can get 660 for that!


I don't often see a GTX 660 quite that cheap.


Well, in Slovenia cheapest 660 is 197€. And euros are more than dollars + our shops have really high prices. Gigabyte (good cooled and OC version) is 214€.
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March 27, 2013 3:29:34 PM

tadej petric said:
blazorthon said:
tadej petric200$??? You can get 660 for that!


I don't often see a GTX 660 quite that cheap.


Well, in Slovenia cheapest 660 is 197€. And euros are more than dollars + our shops have really high prices. Gigabyte (good cooled and OC version) is 214€.


Your shops often have high prices because of a big import tax. It's common for computer component prices between Euros and US dollars to be similar, if not identical despite the USD being worth less than the Euro because of the large tax (something like 25% IIRC).
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March 28, 2013 7:50:20 AM

blazorthon said:
tadej petric said:
blazorthon said:
tadej petric200$??? You can get 660 for that!


I don't often see a GTX 660 quite that cheap.


Well, in Slovenia cheapest 660 is 197€. And euros are more than dollars + our shops have really high prices. Gigabyte (good cooled and OC version) is 214€.


Your shops often have high prices because of a big import tax. It's common for computer component prices between Euros and US dollars to be similar, if not identical despite the USD being worth less than the Euro because of the large tax (something like 25% IIRC).


Yes mostly beacuse of that.
So I went on amazon to give something more dollar-ish

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-PCI-Express-Displayport-...

http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GTX660-DC2O-2GD5-Graphics-Ca...
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March 28, 2013 7:24:02 PM

slomo4shoOh the joys of competition Now only if they would enable SLI...


According to the recent review, it does have SLI.
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