General Computer Build First Time Part List Need. (15 YEARS OLD)

[Guest]

I'm trying to build a computer with a budget of no more than $675. I have a Mircocenter and Frys close by.

I want a i7 3770k or a Fx-8350.

I want no graphic card (yet) for the 3770k, but a small one for the fx-8350.

I want a motherboard with USB 3.0 ports, lots of heat sinks, overclockable and a fair amount of pci slots.

I want aftermarket fan or water cooler quite but powerful.

1tb HDD.

8GB RAM.

I want a monitor to DVI HD 21 inch and up (can take my budget to $750$).

I also want a memory card and USB expansion card and wireless card.

I want the option to over-clock.

The option to put a high-end graphic card later.

I been trying to make this part list but I think I keep over pricing things. I'm a intermediate Photoshop and Premier Pro user, so any tips? The rest of the computer parts add to your own know-how. Thank you.

 

[Gennaios]

your post is a bid mesh write things more clearly!you take the 3770k so you wont need any graphics card for now!also in rendering it pretty much stands a beast!the other things you wrote i didnt really understand them!

 

[bambiboom]

General Computer Build First Time Part List Need.

ProcyenTech,

Here's a suggested system totaling $674 using Newegg prices 3.29.13 >
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1. AMD FX-8350 Vishera 4.0GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor FD8350FRHKBOX $199.99
a. A very high performance CPU for the cost- in Passmark rated #41 of about 1700
b. Using the AMD CPU is not a detriment either-it’s good value as the 8-core listed is 4.0 GHz /4.2 Turbo and costs about $200 while a 4-core 3.5 GHZ i7-37770k costs $329.
c. This CPU includes a fan and heatsink. Presumably as this is made for this CPU it should be adequate. However, to be extremely confident of the cooling, you might build and stress test the system and add a higher efficiency cooler later.

2. ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD
a. A good board with 2 PCIe 2.0 slots- that could be used for 2X graphics cards, supporting 32GB fast RAM and 6GB/s $84.99

3. Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive $74.99.

4. G.SKILL Value 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C11S-8GNT $54.99

5. ZOTAC Synergy ZT-60403-10L GeForce GT 630 2GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card $69.99
a. Not a screaming gaming card but probably competent to start with. This Zotac Geforce was chosen as it has 2X DVI ports instead of the usual one of each connector. This would be easier for a future using 2 equal monitors.
i. b. Notice 128- bit and 2GB memory

6. LIAN LI Lancool PC-K7B Black Aluminum/ SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $79.99
a. This is a good quality Aluminum case with good cooling and also quiet

7. SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply $69.99

8. ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk -$19.99

9. TP-LINK TL-WN751ND Wireless N150 PCI Adapter, 150Mbps, IEEE 802.11b/g/n, WEP, WPA/WPA2 $17.99

10. Aluratek AUH1204F 4-Port USB 2.0 Hub $10.99

TOTAL >$674

Monitor > Acer G5 G215HVBbd Black 21.5" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor $99.99
a. Probably quite a good image, but a 24" would be a world of difference > Acer G246HLAbd Black 24" 5ms Widescreen LED Monitor $139.99

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So, not ideal, especially as the weak link is the graphics card, and I would worry a bit about CPU cooling, but a good foundation within the budget with a high speed and 8-core CPU, and of course graphics card are easy to change later.

Cheers,

BambiBoom

 

[TheBigTroll]

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-microcenter changes everything on the price scale. the i7 3770k is only 229.99. and for the core comparison, its plain stupid because amd cores are not actual cores
-there are way better boards than the 970 extreme4. wouldnt get asrock
-you are joking with the video card right? you can barely play anything at medium settings with that card. even if its only temporary, why waste the money in the first place on a card that you will just throw away. why not just give him the i7 with intergrated graphics that can serve him rather well?
-extra vram is useless at this level. by the time you can make use of it, the gpu is choking itself to death
-there are cheaper cases that perform just as well

id get this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N0PP

add your i7 for 229.99 into the rig. then later on you can slap something like a gtx 660 or 7870xt into the rig and make it complete

 

[bambiboom]

General Computer Build First Time Part List Need

TheBigTroll,

Yes, of course an i7-3770K would be preferable in the long run- the $229 price- which is $100 off at Microcenter, makes all the difference. The thing is, ProcyenTech seems very determined to build, "with a budget of no more than $675", saying "I been trying to make this part list but I think I keep over pricing things". The repeated emphasis on the $675 budget is then the primary concern. The only reason he's asking here is that he has already come up with solutions that are better, but also over this apparently absolute limit. That's the problem, if this strict budget is ignored, and the suggested i7-3770K system costs $770 (+15%), it's not in a meaningful way answering ProcyenTech's question of the best system for his use within the magic $675 figure. This is especially the case when it's considered that the Intel 4000 integrated graphics is not so wonderful in 3D >

Far be it for me to defend the mediocre GT 630- and ProcyenTech mentions he will accept as temporary, "a small one"- which the GT 630 certainly is, but it is still consistently better in 3D than the integrated Intel 4000. In the 3D of Passmark test, the top 4- AMD FX-8350 / GT 630 systems in 3D are > 993, 869, 752, 730 while the top 4- i7-3770K / Intel 4000 scores in 3D are > 652, 645, 608, 607. This is indication that the GT 630 is operating at up to 150% of the Intel 4000 in 3D. The Intel 4000 is very good in 2D, but I doubt that the Intel 4000 would provide a better gaming experience than the GT 630. The Intel 4000 is really the cheap solution to cubicle cowboys taming the wild, bucking MS Office. Also, you mention that the 2GB of VRAM is wasted, but that is ignoring ProcyenTech's use of Premiere- video editing with very large file sizes. The 8-core 8350 can also benefit rendering.

The AMD eight core 8350 scores on Passmark are CPU= 9159, ranking #41, the i7-3770K is CPU= 9637, ranking #30 indicating that the i7 operates at about 105% of the 8350. That's then a 5% benefit at the special -$100 price, or 5% benefit for a 15% price differential, making the 8350 still better in the price to performance ratio. At the normal price of the i7- $329- that's buying a 5% performance increase for 65% more in cost. Also, given the AMD's higher standard clock speed, AMD makes a very good case when price/performance is considered.

Dream, no budget systems are easy, but wonderful for $675 is a tough equation!


Cheers,

BambiBoom

 

[Guest]

your post is a bid mesh write things more clearly!you take the 3770k so you wont need any graphics card for now!also in rendering it pretty much stands a beast!the other things you wrote i didnt really understand them!

I"ll fix it, thank you.

 

[TheBigTroll]

passmark doesnt show overall performance. this does
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/551?vs=697

so what if you have a lot of vram to spend? its totally wasted if you cant power it properly. by the time your adobe software can use the vram, the GPU is already underpowered for that. yeah the 630 is still a lot more powerful than the hd4000 graphics, but then you have just wasted the card if you are going to throw it out anyways

 

[bodeen2012]

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N8uC
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N8uC/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N8uC/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($77.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Diamond Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($174.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($16.97 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $632.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-29 21:13 EDT-0400)