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April 6, 2013 4:50:19 AM

Could someone please have a quick look over this and tell me what you think?

I believe i have everything now to build my computer

I already have the operating system

Its purpose is to play games such as BFF 3 while also normal internet use.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/ONyN
a b 4 Gaming
April 6, 2013 5:14:12 AM

games rely HEAVILY on GPU more than CPU, and you VGA is weak for BF3, maybe you can try different build with more powerful GPU and more space HDD, reliable CPU cooler and faster RAM...ALSO in your budget range

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£99.98 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£63.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: A-Data XPG Gaming v2.0 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£41.40 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£44.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card (£134.27 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.70 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£57.49 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer (£15.04 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £526.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-06 13:22 BST+0100)

look at this build and tell me what you think
April 6, 2013 6:23:49 AM

yasserBasha said:
games rely HEAVILY on GPU more than CPU, and you VGA is weak for BF3, maybe you can try different build with more powerful GPU and more space HDD, reliable CPU cooler and faster RAM...ALSO in your budget range

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£99.98 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£63.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: A-Data XPG Gaming v2.0 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£41.40 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£44.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card (£134.27 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.70 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£57.49 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer (£15.04 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £526.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-06 13:22 BST+0100)

look at this build and tell me what you think




I actually love it, thank you for this it has been a massive help. I think im going to take your advise and purchase everything on that list.

Many Thanks

Oliver
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a b 4 Gaming
April 6, 2013 6:25:57 AM

Oliver Lock said:
yasserBasha said:
games rely HEAVILY on GPU more than CPU, and you VGA is weak for BF3, maybe you can try different build with more powerful GPU and more space HDD, reliable CPU cooler and faster RAM...ALSO in your budget range

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£99.98 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£63.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: A-Data XPG Gaming v2.0 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£41.40 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£44.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card (£134.27 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.70 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£57.49 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer (£15.04 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £526.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-06 13:22 BST+0100)

look at this build and tell me what you think




I actually love it, thank you for this it has been a massive help. I think im going to take your advise and purchase everything on that list.

Many Thanks

Oliver


Hey :)  , don't mention it my friend
Glad to be in your help :bounce: 
April 6, 2013 7:12:06 PM

yasserBasha said:
Oliver Lock said:
yasserBasha said:
games rely HEAVILY on GPU more than CPU, and you VGA is weak for BF3, maybe you can try different build with more powerful GPU and more space HDD, reliable CPU cooler and faster RAM...ALSO in your budget range

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£99.98 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.99 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£63.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: A-Data XPG Gaming v2.0 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£41.40 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£44.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card (£134.27 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.70 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£57.49 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer (£15.04 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £526.84
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-06 13:22 BST+0100)

look at this build and tell me what you think




I actually love it, thank you for this it has been a massive help. I think im going to take your advise and purchase everything on that list.

Many Thanks

Oliver


Hey :)  , don't mention it my friend
Glad to be in your help :bounce: 




Hey i was taking a look at the graphics card Asus HD7850-DC-1GD5.

Im not too sure on it, will it play Games such as battle field 3 and Sim City 5 with no problems or do you recommend something else?

Thanks
Oliver
a b 4 Gaming
April 7, 2013 3:26:30 AM

The important thing when it comes to games is the graphic engine (7850 - 7970 gtx 660 ...etc) and 7850 plays all of these games fluently and handels them with ease
Though if you suspect the brand itself i must tell you that is is known for best cooling (+ gigabyte) so if you suspect the brand you can go for gigabyte, but if you suspect the engine... rest assured my friend

Keep me posted :) 
April 7, 2013 5:00:26 AM


Okay ill take your word for it :)  I was just a bit unsure because there weren't many reviews on amazon but thanks :) 

April 8, 2013 6:43:10 AM

Hey,

I have changed a few things round, i already have a 500gb hard drive at home ( i know its low but i wont be playing that many games on here)
i also have an optical drive as well

Could you please have a look at this and tell me what you think

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/PgJj

Also i have an older forum that i made too, if you want to look at what they were saying about my build feel free to do so :) 
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-1643789/buy-buil...

Many thanks,
Oliver
a b 4 Gaming
April 8, 2013 7:10:46 AM

try this :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£99.98 @ Aria PC)
Thermal Compound: StarTech HeatGrease 20g Thermal Paste (£3.50 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£74.29 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£45.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£86.28 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card (£134.27 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Thermaltake VN900A1W2N (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£36.85 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £531.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-08 15:25 BST+0100)

you'll see the point of strengh :) 
a b 4 Gaming
April 8, 2013 7:29:40 AM

you don't need a 2gb video card unless you plan multi-monitor gaming .. plus the fx-6300's heat sink isn't what i would guarentee so for peace of mind i recommend applying the thermal paste :)  :) 

Best wishes
April 8, 2013 12:53:19 PM

Do you think the Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance Memory Two Module Kit would be better? Whats the difference? and also okay i have thermal paste so i will do that too thanks :) 
April 8, 2013 1:23:12 PM

Also i have took off the CPU Cooler, would this be okay? ill also use the paste too
a b 4 Gaming
April 8, 2013 1:25:36 PM

i put the paste so that you don't have to buy aftermarket cooler and you stick to the stock cooler
the ram is reputable brand and will give you best performance ... what do u think of SSD ?
April 8, 2013 1:28:32 PM

Awesome my build is coming together nicely, and yeah i was looking at the ssd, dont really know much about them , if i buy one does it replace my sorage (hard drive)
a b 4 Gaming
April 8, 2013 1:33:27 PM

No, look .. the SSD is lightening fast Drive that has incredible speed with OS boot and opening applications that will ADD much power in performance and your build will be Great
April 8, 2013 1:50:07 PM

good, thanks. So i will get that ssd card with 128gb and a 500gb hard drive (min). My Dad said that he has a spare one with 500GB so ill just use that.

last thing, what graphics card? looking to spend like £100 give or take just need it good enough to play games like BB3 and Sim city on mid graphics

a b 4 Gaming
April 8, 2013 1:54:42 PM

it's noot SSD card ... it's a SSD drive (hard dive )
April 8, 2013 1:59:58 PM

ohhh okay i see now. I think.. sorry most of this is new to me.

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Pldc
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Pldc/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Pldc/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£99.98 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£63.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£55.89 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£88.29 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card (£154.98 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.34 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£57.95 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £565.41


Thats what i have so far. all seem okay? I was thinking could i just have a 1 gb graphics card instead?
a b 4 Gaming
April 8, 2013 2:03:51 PM

That's what i was saying and included in my build ... 1gb is enough you don't need 2gb graphic card

AND your build is solid gamer, congrats my friend
April 8, 2013 2:06:28 PM

Going to get this i think, Asus AMD Radeon HD 6670 Graphics Card (1GB, PCI-Express, GDDR5, Dust-proof Fan)

And thank you so much for your help honestly couldn't have done this without you haha

many thanks

a b 4 Gaming
April 8, 2013 2:08:00 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ,, DON'T EVER EVER DOWNGRADE TO 6670, stick to the 7850 or ALL will be worthless
April 8, 2013 2:12:24 PM

actually i think thats bad might go with the gigabite one you said
a b 4 Gaming
April 8, 2013 2:13:32 PM

AS long as it's 7850 ... that's O.K
April 8, 2013 2:22:08 PM

Any parts you think change to reduce the price on or you think its fine :) ?

Thanks Oliver
a b 4 Gaming
April 8, 2013 2:36:49 PM

perfect
April 11, 2013 10:49:29 AM

Quick Question,

Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Motherboard (Socket AM3+, Up to 16GB DDR3, USB 3.0, uATX) £52.70

Or

Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 Motherboard (AMD 970/SB950, DDR3, 6 x S-ATA 600, ATX, PCI-Express 2.0, USB 3.0, Socket AM3+) £68.04

??
a b 4 Gaming
April 11, 2013 2:53:51 PM

The second one .. definitely

The first is just an old chipset (AMD 760G - 780L) w/modern technology chunked into it (USB 3.0 & AM3+ support ) with no future driver upgrade and just-basic drivers available.
While the second is more modern-origin and supports sata 6GB/s (THE STANDARD HDD nowadays ) and more future friendly .

GET the 2nd one
April 12, 2013 6:34:28 AM

Yeah going to buy it now, very last question. ( I Promise)

Motherboards i have benched marked the AMD FX6300 Black and the AMD HDZ965FBGMBOX Phenom II X4 965
and it says that the second one is better. It is also like 30 pound cheaper. What do you think?

Thanks
a b 4 Gaming
April 12, 2013 6:44:56 AM

fx-6300 is better .. and has more cores, but phenom is good too
April 12, 2013 6:45:17 AM

I lied, Never mind aha
a b 4 Gaming
April 12, 2013 6:52:59 AM

lied ?????????
April 12, 2013 6:58:58 AM

I read the benchmarking wrong i just bought the Mother board, CPU and the SSD just then £250 all together not bad. I have the Hard drive, case, PSU and the Ram :)  just need the graphics card now
a c 357 4 Gaming
April 12, 2013 7:09:31 AM

I would have done this: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£101.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£62.57 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.23 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.68 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card (£180.42 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.34 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£53.99 @ Aria PC)
Total: £534.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-12 15:08 BST+0100)

It would have been MUCH better for gaming. Instead of playing on a mix of medium and high settings, this would max any game.

I dropped the SSD because it doesn't help gaming performance in any way.
April 12, 2013 7:19:19 AM

tiny voices said:
I would have done this: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£101.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£62.57 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Patriot Intel Extreme Master, Limited Ed 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£36.23 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£54.68 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card (£180.42 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Zalman Z9 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case (£44.34 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£53.99 @ Aria PC)
Total: £534.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-12 15:08 BST+0100)

It would have been MUCH better for gaming. Instead of playing on a mix of medium and high settings, this would max any game.

I dropped the SSD because it doesn't help gaming performance in any way.


Thanks for the reply, i defiantly have took it all into account for the future and i am defiantly learning.

I have bought all the products now anyway

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Q2bS
a b 4 Gaming
April 12, 2013 8:45:13 AM

PSU is little bit under the required wattage for 7850, hope it runs fine
a c 357 4 Gaming
April 12, 2013 10:45:14 AM

That PSU will run a 7850 without issue. Don't worry about it.
a b 4 Gaming
April 12, 2013 10:51:57 AM

keep in mind that fx-6300 is power consumer (95W) unlike i3 for example + the rest of the build, that's why i'm cocerned about the PSU
a c 357 4 Gaming
April 12, 2013 10:59:02 AM

7850 pull 280w MAX load. CPU pulls 95w. <40w for everything else So under MAX load 280+95+40= 415. That is MAX possible it will pull. It will never actually pull this much at one time. You likely don't even have the CPU and GPU at max load at the same time unless you are benchmarking. Even in gaming it won't constantly draw full power. The 40w for everything else is also very generous. A typical HDD uses 25w on spin up and barely anything at idle spin. Fans use basically nothing. SSDs use basically nothing as well, maybe 10w MAX ever. likely very less.

It will be fine.
April 13, 2013 2:48:02 PM

Im not going to buy a monitor yet, but i have a old one. Flat back. I was wondering is it okay to do this with a old rubbish computer screen for now? would it mess up anything or will it be okay for now? thank you
a c 357 4 Gaming
April 13, 2013 2:51:41 PM

It will be fine.
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