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First time build for 3ds Max, AE and Premiere

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April 9, 2013 7:32:51 PM

So I've never built a computer before, so I might have missed something obvious, but I basically followed the Videoguys DIY 9.5 recipe with a GTX 680.

Will be used for 3ds Max (not too complicated) , After Effects (many layers, fairly complicated), and Premiere (some complicated multicam projects). No gaming.

What do you think?

Intel Core i7 - 3930K
ASUS P9X79 Pro Motherboard
G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB DDR3 1600 (4x8)
Asus GTX680-DC2-4GD5 4GB
2 x Crucial M4 256GB SSD (RAID mirror boot drives)
Crucial M4 128GB SSD (internal drive for exporting)
CineRAID Enclosure (4TB RAID5) attached via USB3 as a scratch disk

Antec 300 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Enermax 1000W ERV1000EWT
LG 24x DVD-RW drive
Windows 8 Pro 64-bit

So since I'm new to this, can anyone confirm that all these parts are compatible, the power supply is appropriate and the cooling is appropriate (neither too much, nor too little)?

Thank you kindly for the feedback!
April 9, 2013 8:13:36 PM

Forum is a bit bugged right now so I may not be able to track this thread.

You are not going to game, so you are not going to SLI. You don't need a 1000W PSU.

At this level, don't use air cooling. The big towers put stress on the motherboard that is not desirable, and you can afford to pay a bit more there.

You may want to go with Win 7, as win 8 is new and may cause some issues in some programs.

RAID boot SSD drives.... no. There is no reason for that at all, you are just adding complexity for very little gain.

And finally, since you are spending less on various parts, spend more on the case. You NEED a quiet computer I think.

Here:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($499.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 PRO ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($304.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($198.83 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 512GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($434.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card ($444.68 @ Amazon)
Case: Silverstone SST-FT02B-USB3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($256.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($142.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Pioneer BDR-207MBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($79.94 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($129.98 @ Amazon)
Total: $2493.37
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-09 23:06 EDT-0400)

Cooler
http://www.aerocooler.com/product_info.php?products_id=...

April 9, 2013 10:08:46 PM

Hi Proximon,

Thanks for your informative response! I've removed the mirrored SSD, and reduced the power supply to 850W, but I'm still a little confused about the cooling. Will this tower and water cooler be sufficient? Also, I live in Canada, which I neglected to mention, so that's reflected in my PCPartPicker list:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($574.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 74.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($71.50 @ Vuugo)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 PRO ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($299.06 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($204.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.00 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card ($569.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 922 ATX Mid Tower Case ($58.88 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 850W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($94.98 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Canada Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional Full (64-bit) ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Other: CineRAID 4 Bay Enclosure ($209.99)
Other: Uninterruptible Power Supply ($165.99)
Total: $3009.10
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-10 01:05 EDT-0400)
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April 9, 2013 11:48:03 PM

I know Crucial M4 drives have a great reputation and are known for reliability, but so are Samsung drives and they are faster. Still, if you are set on the Crucial, it's not a bad choice.

I've helped many people with video/audio builds and they all say the same thing... that they need a quiet PC as a priority.

That's why I have listed the Silverstone Fortress case and the Swiftech CPU cooler. They both provide excellent cooling and quiet operation.
That is also why I specified the Seasonic PSU. The H60 will work fine but it won't leave much thermal room for overclocking and it will not be quiet.

If you are working with a hard budget consider this - Most of your heavy lifting will be done by CUDA I suspect, so the 3930K and X79 motherboard may not be the best way to spend the money. Consider an i7 3770K and Z77 board instead. They are newer tech and you can get a board that supports thunderbolt. Then you can switch to a TB RAID enclosure.

I'm certain your RAID enclosure will have an external power source, so you have no need for that much PSU. A very efficient PSU will leave less heat in your case and will require less cooling, meaning less fan noise.

Round 2

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6/TB4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($174.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($254.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1109.94
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-10 02:33 EDT-0400)

And
Pegasus Thunderbolt RAID
http://www.amazon.ca/Pegasus-4tb-Raid-Thunderbolt-Solut...

April 10, 2013 4:38:30 AM

id suggest something like this
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/PI2Y

-the CPU, cooler, motherboard, hard drive, SSD,and OS can all be price matched at ncix.
-the video card is 379.99 after a MIR at ncix.
- i dont see the use of a 680 when a 670 performs just as well
-the kelper GPU tends not to use the vram efficiently. in some tests it makes it slower than the 2gb variant
- i dont see the point of a RAID config when a SSD can do the scratch work faster. but then it depends on the user
-you can pick up the items at a ncix store if you happen to live in vancouver or toronto. that way you save shipping costs (newegg shipping is dam expensive)
April 10, 2013 12:51:44 PM

Does the 670 perform as well in CUDA? I don't really know the computational differences. Most of the CUDA benchmarks I have seen have the GTX 680 in the top spot, but I do seem to recall a few GTX 670s in there as well.
April 10, 2013 1:09:17 PM

its the same thing, just with less CUDA cores. it should perform the same or at least a tad under
April 10, 2013 3:43:46 PM

Thanks Proximon and TheBigTroll! To be fair, my initial budget was around 4k, so I'm not worried about spending a little more money to get what I want. So I think I'll stick with the 680 but incorporate the cooling suggestions Proximon had in the first post, to get a quiet and powerful machine.

So with this setup, 660W will be enough, and everything will fit?

And TheBigTroll, I do live in Toronto, so do I just call NCIX up and ask them to price match what they can? That would be extremely useful!

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($574.79 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Swiftech H220 55.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($149.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: Asus P9X79 PRO ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($299.06 @ DirectCanada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($204.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.00 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 4GB Video Card ($569.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Silverstone SST-FT02B-USB3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($259.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($159.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Canada Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional Full (64-bit) ($149.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Monitor: Asus VE228H 21.5" Monitor ($129.79 @ DirectCanada)
Other: CineRAID 4 Bay Enclosure ($209.99)
Other: Uninterruptible Power Supply ($165.99)
Total: $3483.50
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-10 18:38 EDT-0400)
April 10, 2013 4:56:03 PM

-change the board back to a gigabyte up4. much better vrms and supports more slots
-change the SSDs to what i recommended. its faster and just as reliable
-would go with caviar blues as stated above. more warranty
-still no reason to get a gtx 680
-the arc midi r2 is 1/3 of the price and does the same job equally as well
-dont see the point of windows 8
-monitor is making your build look weak. get this. cant really price match when ncix has no stock
http://www.vuugo.com/computer-hardware/display-devices/...

you dont need to call them. you can enter the URLs of the competitor in their shopping cart. or go instore, get them to help you throw everything in the shopping cart, and then bargain with them. they generally will discount 200 or more dollars off your build so you might as well
April 11, 2013 3:41:19 AM

its not really updated
April 11, 2013 1:15:25 PM

Really, I just can't see getting such a cheap case. I've had my hands on a lot of cases over the years and I've become a big fan of the higher quality cases. The better Silverstone cases are some of the best. I owned a tj09 for many years and it took a CaseLabs M8 to pry me away from it. It's more about look and feel than quiet though. There are many $100 cases that will be quiet.
April 11, 2013 3:47:14 PM

the fractal doesnt feel cheap at all though which is why i recommend it for such a wide variety of builds that i recommend. i can never see the justification of a larger case if you are not going to put a board larger than ATX size or if you are not going to watercool.
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