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Rumor: AMD 'Centurion' Will Clock at 5 GHz

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April 12, 2013 11:52:13 AM

as much as i root for amd, it would suck too much power compared to the intel and probably wouldnt be as fast
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April 12, 2013 11:52:36 AM

kinda expensive...drop it to 400 and im in....
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April 12, 2013 11:53:03 AM

5GHz? Even if that's not at turbo, you can overclock an 8350 to hit that... for $500 less, apparently.
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April 12, 2013 11:54:12 AM

speed is nothing without proper code....they really need to get stuff together
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April 12, 2013 11:54:33 AM

Is this April first joke?
If AMD can produce 5GHz CPU why make it limited? Not very likely... If they can do it, they will produce it as much as there are people willing to buy it.
If this is just cherry picked well clocking variant... well then maybe, but still very unlikely, because when the proses gets better there will be more and more chips that can achieve this speed. Very strange news indeed!
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April 12, 2013 11:59:41 AM

speed is nothing without proper code....they really need to get stuff together
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April 12, 2013 12:02:35 PM

Nothing about this rumor makes sense. Even overclocked to 5GHz, the 8350 isn't better than an overclocked i7. Who would pay 800 dollars for a 5GHz FX? Heck, for that money you could get two i7's and pick the best overclocker, or 4 8350s and pick the best overclocker.
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April 12, 2013 12:08:31 PM

If it comes stock at 5ghz, i wonder if we could oc it to 6ghz
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April 12, 2013 12:14:51 PM

AMD is just taking a lead from Intel who has charged 5x time the price for their "X" series for years, that are normally only clocked slightly higher than something that costs 1/4 the price.
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April 12, 2013 12:21:36 PM

The clock speed, albeit impressive, is a minor point. I'd like to know what this Vishera "refresh" is. I'm expecting RCM - they haven't implemented this yet, but I imagine they are doing with Richland. Might explain the increased clock speeds.
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April 12, 2013 12:22:04 PM

The clock speed, albeit impressive, is a minor point. I'd like to know what this Vishera "refresh" is. I'm expecting RCM - they haven't implemented this yet, but I imagine they are doing with Richland. Might explain the increased clock speeds.
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April 12, 2013 12:28:19 PM

Good to see
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April 12, 2013 12:37:59 PM

Anyone with enough money to buy this is going with an Intel system in the first place.
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April 12, 2013 12:38:03 PM

Anyone with enough money to buy this is going with an Intel system in the first place.
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April 12, 2013 12:55:09 PM

Cherry picked, factory overclocked 8350 that you most likely won't be able to overclock any further at quadruple the cost? Well... shit.
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April 12, 2013 12:57:24 PM

Unless this is more than just a clock bump I don't see $800 for this chip. The $/perf doesn't line up. It would be competing with Intel hex-cores at that price point.

This might work if it was $300 and positioned against an i7.
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April 12, 2013 1:00:27 PM

Yay! More rumors... whatever happened to objective reporting?
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April 12, 2013 1:13:36 PM

nebun said:
speed is nothing without proper code....they really need to get stuff together
Proper code has nothign to do with it. HT has been out for 10 years, and until the I series chips were released, I always turned it off (except on single core's) because the performance increase was not worth the heat increase.

For what should be obvious legal reason's AMD could not implement an Identical solution, so I would expect it to take at least 5 years after piledrivers release before software starts using it properly.

On topic : No thanks AMD, at that price ill wait for 28nm or smaller.
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April 12, 2013 1:16:29 PM

...but will perform like a quad-core i7.
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April 12, 2013 1:25:51 PM

Wow, if its cores are so inefficient needs to run at 5GHZ to compete with Intel, AMD is going out of business soon...

5 GHZ = Heat, and a 1TW PS to keep the thing running...

I miss the days of Athlon spanking Intel :( 
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April 12, 2013 1:32:37 PM

all of this has happened before, all of this will happen again
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April 12, 2013 1:37:56 PM

In the dire situation that AMD is in, I don't understand why they would mess around with an expensive, elite component the way Nvidia has been teasing the GTX Titan. They are not in the same boat. Even at 5ghz, Vishera will be smashed to bits by $500 Intel chips, and maybe even the i7 still, so why release this at $800? It will only become a talking point to show how further out of touch AMD has become. They should release the chip dirt cheap at $295, cause a ruckus, and use the marketing stunt (cause that's all this really is) to prove to PC users that there is still some soul, some fight, some actual engineering coming out of AMD, and they are still interesting in making value-oriented fast chips. This should be "a taste of things to come", but somehow at 5gHz (with zero architecture improvements) and $800 this has the makings of a last meal instead.
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April 12, 2013 1:40:54 PM

that would put it above a 3930k cost wise .. I'm guessing this is nothing more then rumor. If they had this kind of performance all along then they really are just playing the underdog role. Mind you there would need to be significant Improvements in the cores for this to be beneficial .. sounds like amd's attempt at trying to take away some of the more meatier processor sales from intel.. I would be highly surprised or overjoyed actually if they were able to pull something like that off though.
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April 12, 2013 1:54:19 PM

This sounds distressingly like Intel's claim that their NetBurst architecture would clock to 10GHhz, and we all know how well netburst was...
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April 12, 2013 2:16:47 PM

Every time AMD got something new is a good news. But more Ghz isn't the way to go, they have more than enough, they have to work hard on improve their IPC efficiency. At current speeds, a more efficient architecture would increase much more than what a fews Ghz in speed will do.
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April 12, 2013 2:25:47 PM

Well AMD have already broken 10ghz so this is nothing like the fail that was netburst. This is also cherry picked silicon with insanely high OC bins on conventional cooling. Since AMD's ARCH has deep pipelines at 5ghz these parts will be plenty fast keeping those pipes full using clock frequency. I do expect RCM aggressive profiles on this so I am guessing 5ghz @ 1.3v or so. Either way this is a novelty item and a very interesting addition.
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April 12, 2013 2:31:15 PM

My understanding with Titan is that they increased the die size and then packed it with more parts. Everyones asking "Why would amd release vishera at 5.0 Ghz for $800?" First, its a rumor. Second. It wouldn't be vishera. If the rumor is true then I would expect more than just being able to have this thing at a stock clock. Give amd some sort of credit, and wait for the confirm, denial and/or benchmarks.
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April 12, 2013 2:51:12 PM

AMD: MOAR COARZ, MOAR GIGAHURTZ
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April 12, 2013 2:58:18 PM

Good for them, I like AMD but they have been embarrassed on the top end like pentium 4 days ! They need something...
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April 12, 2013 2:58:37 PM

Good for them, I like AMD but they have been embarrassed on the top end like pentium 4 days ! They need something...
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April 12, 2013 3:20:30 PM

I haven't heard "Super FX chip" mentioned since Starfox, a classic SNES game. This is huge, it shows AMD's got "Super" fast CPU's, as well as some of the fastest graphics cards. AMD will not only be in all 3 next gen consoles, but it will also compete in all other areas as well!
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April 12, 2013 3:22:18 PM

I haven't heard "Super FX chip" mentioned since Starfox, a classic SNES game. This is huge, it shows AMD's got "Super" fast CPU's, as well as some of the fastest graphics cards. AMD will not only be in all 3 next gen consoles, but it will also compete in all other areas as well!
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April 12, 2013 3:25:41 PM

I haven't heard "Super FX chip" mentioned since Starfox, a classic SNES game. This is huge, it shows AMD's got "Super" fast CPU's, as well as some of the fastest graphics cards. AMD will not only be in all 3 next gen consoles, but it will also compete in all other areas as well!
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April 12, 2013 3:39:27 PM

mikenygmail said:
I haven't heard "Super FX chip" mentioned since Starfox, a classic SNES game. This is huge, it shows AMD's got "Super" fast CPU's, as well as some of the fastest graphics cards. AMD will not only be in all 3 next gen consoles, but it will also compete in all other areas as well!


Do you suppose they'll bundle STARFOX with it, or maybe Zelda ?
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April 12, 2013 3:50:50 PM

At this price it would be against i7 3930K (6 cores, 12 threads) (and the Ivybridge/Haswell (LGA2011) that will come after) which cost $250 less... I am curious to see if it can compete against this CPU. But to be honest I don't have high expectations against the i7 3930K. If they would price it around $300 to be against the normal i7 (like i7 3770K), they might have a worthy competitor against Intel...
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April 12, 2013 4:08:32 PM

What seperates Intel from AMD is not speed but instructions per cycle and that has always been the case. I think that both can shoot for higher clocks but if AMD wants to compete they should work on the IPC. What would be the point of a 5ghz processor being beat by a 2.8ghz processor.
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April 12, 2013 5:30:20 PM

meanwhile, power TDP is rated at 150w and some guy comes along, buys one to slot into thier 700 series board and complains. i can gurantee you some one will do it
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April 12, 2013 6:07:23 PM

It's getting into "Extreme Edition" price categories, but will be beat out by the Core chips clocked 1.4 GHZ slower. I'd rather have the EE with six real cores than the "Centurion" with a fake eight.
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April 12, 2013 10:48:21 PM

Priced like intel E series!
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April 13, 2013 1:14:23 AM

Still waiting for Steamroller for the improved IPC.
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April 13, 2013 4:34:55 AM

And unless we see significant architecture and memory controller upgrades / changes, it will still be out performed by similarly priced Intel chips.
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April 13, 2013 6:12:11 AM

Maybe it's some 16 core or something?? 795$ is toooo much for a overclocked 8350. Isn't it?
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April 13, 2013 8:06:41 AM

please help me i can't use my facebook account because of certificate
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April 13, 2013 8:13:29 AM

5 GHZ Nice!!
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April 13, 2013 8:36:04 AM

VIKRAMDEEP SINGH SIDHU said:
please help me i can't use my facebook account because of certificate


This isn't the place to ask this but you want the correct date on your computer.
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April 13, 2013 8:36:19 AM

Yes I want a centurion
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April 13, 2013 8:51:23 AM

Sahand-Tabriz said:
Maybe it's some 16 core or something?? 795$ is toooo much for a overclocked 8350. Isn't it?

Intel used to charge ~$1000 for their Extreme Edition P4s and AMD used to charge over $600 for their top CPUs back then too... so this wouldn't be the first time AMD has charged a small fortune for a relatively minor performance bump.
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April 13, 2013 10:58:56 AM

Agreed ^ with the pricing of AMDs CPUs and them coming out with an $800 processor there had better be some drastic performance increases or they will get hammered like they did with the release of Bulldozer.
Also what happened to AMD saying they were no longer competing in the high end Pc market? If this chip performs as expected this is most deffinetly a high end CPU.
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April 13, 2013 2:27:58 PM

getochkn said:
AMD is just taking a lead from Intel who has charged 5x time the price for their "X" series for years, that are normally only clocked slightly higher than something that costs 1/4 the price.


True, but most commenters on this site aren't exactly thrilled with Intel's top offerings either. The value proposition at the extreme high end has always been pretty terrible, but that doesn't mean that knowledgeable consumers should approve of more bad value propositions.

What makes this AMD news even sillier is that its top-tier CPU is way behind Intel's mid-tier offerings (with some few niche-use-case-scenario exceptions). It's as if Intel decided to launch a special edition, high-clocked Core i3 for $600 or $700.

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