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Haswell CPUs Could Be Easier to Overclock

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April 16, 2013 9:45:54 AM

They better not use the same damn paste they used in the Ivy Bridges!
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April 16, 2013 9:53:15 AM

Maybe I'm missing something, but how is this any better than just using the core multiplier?
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April 16, 2013 10:06:24 AM

This sounds pretty good, I just hope that they use flux-less solder rather than thermal paste between the chip and the IHS. At least on the K series of CPU's, after all they are aimed at overclockers.
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April 16, 2013 10:19:25 AM

O/C is easy on my sandy bridge 2600k, I press a button and it overclocks the CPU and ram 20% on my Asus mobo. Haswell is going to be easier than that?
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April 16, 2013 10:19:39 AM

EDIT: Accidental double post
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April 16, 2013 10:27:02 AM

Easier? How does more complexity equate to being easier? One could assert that you can have greater success through the manipulation of two variables than just a single variable but I am not seeing how this equates to an easier overclock...
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April 16, 2013 10:28:01 AM

And here's me thinking it doesn't get any easier than changing multiplier/vcore...
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April 16, 2013 10:44:33 AM

Overclocking is simple enough as it is for Sandy/Ivy Bridge; what we want is better overclocking ability/potential.
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April 16, 2013 11:05:25 AM

ihog said:
Overclocking is simple enough as it is for Sandy/Ivy Bridge; what we want is better overclocking ability/potential.

If Intel had surprise success with improving timing margins to provide 1GHz higher average clock yield, they would simply launch a product lineup with most of that 1GHz factored in.

With multipliers locked across all lower-end models, Intel ensures that overclocking headroom remains relatively modest compared to what it used to be when most low/mid-range chips were still overclockable by at least 33% by simply changing FSB clock ratio.
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April 16, 2013 11:08:49 AM

signothorn said:
O/C is easy on my sandy bridge 2600k, I press a button and it overclocks the CPU and ram 20% on my Asus mobo. Haswell is going to be easier than that?

You're doing it wrong.
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April 16, 2013 12:04:37 PM

"even though in the past users could overclock non '-K' series CPUs through altering the base clock without touching the multiplier."

I think the author may not be aware that non '-K' CPUs have partial unlock, so to OC a non-k, most enthusiasts would actually touch the multiplier first to add +4 before touching the clock.
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April 16, 2013 3:21:57 PM

Why not get rid of the "K" processors and just let us overclock all CPU models using a multiplier. That would be nice.
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April 16, 2013 5:07:18 PM

Piss on Haswell unless it's an LGA2011 chip I'm not interested. Stop screwing your higher paying customers Intel.
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April 16, 2013 11:32:57 PM

So, will they run cooler than sandy bridge
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April 17, 2013 1:40:35 PM

aramisathei said:
Maybe I'm missing something, but how is this any better than just using the core multiplier?

It should greatly benefit non-K chips. The biggest winners from this should be the Pentium's & i3's which have no available "K" versions or Turbo Boost and have been virtually frozen at under 3.5GHz for 2 generations now with typically only +/- 5% BCLK to play with... Many people have been crying out for the return of super-overclockable budget dual-cores ever since the i3-530 Clarkdale (with 2.93GHz -> 4.3GHz overclocks) got "upgraded" to the i3-2100 (with 3.1 -> 3.3GHz overclocks) when Sandy Bridge locked "core" and "uncore" frequencies together...

In fact, overlocking on BCLK-locked Sandy & Ivy Bridge i3's has been so poor that 1st-gen "i" series BCLK unlocked 2010-era i3-530's are still faster in many benchmarks than the 2 years newer Ivy-Bridge equivalents. Examples:-

WINRAR:-
i3-530 @ 4.3Ghz = 3,802KB/s
i3-3220 @ 3.3GHz = 3,557KB/s

Fritz Chess:-
i3-530 @ 4.3Ghz = 7,713
i3-3220 : 3.3GHz= 6,352

If this BCLK-unlock is "across the board" and not just limited to premium "K" chips, then it's great news for Haswell i3 owners, as a stock 3.4GHz i3 could be OC'd to 4.25GHz (with 1.25x / 125MHz BCLK) and not just limited to 3.5-3.6GHz as current Ivy & Sandy i3's.
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November 24, 2013 12:34:07 AM

Bring on Haswell-E!
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December 23, 2013 10:47:44 PM

it seems Haswell has something more than we think..
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